Sub- 200 MSI X570 Gaming Plus Motherboard Analysis
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Date: 2020-05-06
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i know they are completely different things, but how does this compare to my current sabertooth 990fx r2. 0 motherboard? overclocking/ performance/ quality wise? the sabertooth is 8+2 phase. or it says it is anyway. worked brilliantly to overclock my fx8350. only limited by cooling, voltage completely stable etc. using noctua nhd14 i can do 4. 6ghz year round, gets hot in summer though so usually drop it back down to 4. 5. although it would probably still have been fine at 4. 6. anyway. yeah. ive skimped on motherboards before and regretted it. (originally had a m5a97 r2. 0 and the overclocking was terrible. even with fans directly on the vrms. could never get anything above 4. 3 100% stable. so i dont want to make that same mistake again. motherboards and powersupplies are the foundations of a pc. if they are too weak the whole building will come crashing down. i will either be getting the better 8 core ryzen 3000 cpu, or the 12 core. possibly one of the cheaper ones. all depends on reviews and best overclocking potential and price/ performance ratio. but i will definitely be trying to overclock it. will have a custom loop water cooling solution. probably a 240 and 120mm radiator setup. if all core overclocks are lower than the single core boost setup hopefully we can just overclock the boost etc. but i really want to stick to all core overclocking. as good as ryzen has been, the shitty overclocking potential (due to how well they run out of the gate- very little headroom left. well utilized already etc) has always held me back. but these new ryzen cpus are just so powerful and affordabe. i think its time i upgraded from my fx8350.
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i know they are completely different things, but how does this compare to my current sabertooth 990fx r2. 0 motherboard? overclocking/ performance/ quality wise? the sabertooth is 8+2 phase. or it says it is anyway. worked brilliantly to overclock my fx8350. only limited by cooling, voltage completely stable etc. using noctua nhd14 i can do 4. 6ghz year round, gets hot in summer though so usually drop it back down to 4. 5. although it would probably still have been fine at 4. 6. anyway. yeah. ive skimped on motherboards before and regretted it. (originally had a m5a97 r2. 0 and the overclocking was terrible. even with fans directly on the vrms. could never get anything above 4. 3 100% stable. so i dont want to make that same mistake again. motherboards and powersupplies are the foundations of a pc. if they are too weak the whole building will come crashing down. i will either be getting the better 8 core ryzen 3000 cpu, or the 12 core. possibly one of the cheaper ones. all depends on reviews and best overclocking potential and price/ performance ratio. but i will definitely be trying to overclock it. will have a custom loop water cooling solution. probably a 240 and 120mm radiator setup. if all core overclocks are lower than the single core boost setup hopefully we can just overclock the boost etc. but i really want to stick to all core overclocking. as good as ryzen has been, the shitty overclocking potential (due to how well they run out of the gate- very little headroom left. well utilized already etc) has always held me back. but these new ryzen cpus are just so powerful and affordabe. i think its time i upgraded from my fx8350.
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Matas
Bought the board, the damn m. 2 ssd heatsink can't be screwed in because they messed up the screws on the right hand side for the heatsink, it screws into your case, you put your mb on it, and screw in another standoff for the heatsink into the other standoff, but problem is- the heatsink standoff screws don't screw into the standoff installed into the case itlself. (There were 2 types of screws included for this, 6#23 or M3. I picked the ones that worked) and installed them into my case, but as I said, it doesn't work, don't care THAT mutch, but if you're including features, might aswell make them right. Aside from that the damn extra 4 pin for the cpu scared the living f k out of me, I googled it and 95% of the people online and on forums were saying that it's neccesary. Ran without it because I ain't buying a new psu especially since I don't need it. Happy to come across this video and at the very least get some positives out of this thing >_>
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Bought the board, the damn m. 2 ssd heatsink can't be screwed in because they messed up the screws on the right hand side for the heatsink, it screws into your case, you put your mb on it, and screw in another standoff for the heatsink into the other standoff, but problem is- the heatsink standoff screws don't screw into the standoff installed into the case itlself. (There were 2 types of screws included for this, 6#23 or M3. I picked the ones that worked) and installed them into my case, but as I said, it doesn't work, don't care THAT mutch, but if you're including features, might aswell make them right. Aside from that the damn extra 4 pin for the cpu scared the living f k out of me, I googled it and 95% of the people online and on forums were saying that it's neccesary. Ran without it because I ain't buying a new psu especially since I don't need it. Happy to come across this video and at the very least get some positives out of this thing >_>
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ZeroCool
My advice which you asked for at the end of the video would be to invest more into the conclusion. Summarize the major features and inputs/outputs of the board, how well those are implemented, some comparison to other boards and making a value proposition for the board. Is it a good value vs its competitors? That sort of thing. Also an actual temperature measurement of the VRM's etc while the board is in operation would be VERY helpful. Perhaps testing some memory timings and making sure the thing boots alright if you can start getting your hands on some of these. I'm curious about how different the temps on this are vs the msi gaming edge wifi that Hardware Unboxed tested.
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My advice which you asked for at the end of the video would be to invest more into the conclusion. Summarize the major features and inputs/outputs of the board, how well those are implemented, some comparison to other boards and making a value proposition for the board. Is it a good value vs its competitors? That sort of thing. Also an actual temperature measurement of the VRM's etc while the board is in operation would be VERY helpful. Perhaps testing some memory timings and making sure the thing boots alright if you can start getting your hands on some of these. I'm curious about how different the temps on this are vs the msi gaming edge wifi that Hardware Unboxed tested.
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S/\LT.
Love these videos, I would love to buy the 12 core maybe considering a potential future overclock as well (depending on how the 3rd gen handles it ofc, nothing drastic) and these videos are really helpful. I'll be using it for gaming and partly as a workstation for 3D rendering. I'm not very budget restricted however I would like to keep the price down as much as possible without losing important features or overinvesting into useless ones. TIL you don't need 12 phase VRM to overclock the 12 core and the fact this is supposedly sub 200 dollars is really nice.
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Love these videos, I would love to buy the 12 core maybe considering a potential future overclock as well (depending on how the 3rd gen handles it ofc, nothing drastic) and these videos are really helpful. I'll be using it for gaming and partly as a workstation for 3D rendering. I'm not very budget restricted however I would like to keep the price down as much as possible without losing important features or overinvesting into useless ones. TIL you don't need 12 phase VRM to overclock the 12 core and the fact this is supposedly sub 200 dollars is really nice.
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Dionamuh
It's all well and good that 2x8GB works the best for overclocking, everyone always says that. But 16GB just of total RAM just isn't a lot anymore these days. Maybe it's still fine for gaming, but for other workloads you need more. I am much more interested in how 2x16GB performs than 2x8GB. And 4x8GB makes far less sense I think, because a) 4 modules can lead to more issues, and b) you have no more room left to upgrade in the future.
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It's all well and good that 2x8GB works the best for overclocking, everyone always says that. But 16GB just of total RAM just isn't a lot anymore these days. Maybe it's still fine for gaming, but for other workloads you need more. I am much more interested in how 2x16GB performs than 2x8GB. And 4x8GB makes far less sense I think, because a) 4 modules can lead to more issues, and b) you have no more room left to upgrade in the future.
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Alwar
Seeing that the x570-A pro is the same board with same vrm but different color and heatsink. do you think its good enough still? its 20 difference here between the x570-A pro and x570 gaming plus EDIT: With amazon discount, ends up at 155 vs the gaming plus at 189. The other alternatives are gaming x from GA and asus prime P both at 230 Is that or a B450 carbon pro, that imo has less features and worse VRM than this
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Seeing that the x570-A pro is the same board with same vrm but different color and heatsink. do you think its good enough still? its 20 difference here between the x570-A pro and x570 gaming plus EDIT: With amazon discount, ends up at 155 vs the gaming plus at 189. The other alternatives are gaming x from GA and asus prime P both at 230 Is that or a B450 carbon pro, that imo has less features and worse VRM than this
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Alejandro
Really great to hear how the VRM would perform under different conditions (OC, different core count, etc. I love this in depth analysis even if I only get half of the info and I'm not really going to upgrade my motherboard right now. Talking about upgrades, it would be cool to revisit older X470 MB with Ryzen 3000 in mind. you know, for the guys that have an ASUS Crosshair VII Hero. like, me?
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Really great to hear how the VRM would perform under different conditions (OC, different core count, etc. I love this in depth analysis even if I only get half of the info and I'm not really going to upgrade my motherboard right now. Talking about upgrades, it would be cool to revisit older X470 MB with Ryzen 3000 in mind. you know, for the guys that have an ASUS Crosshair VII Hero. like, me?
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LFly
Actually Hardware Overclocking: there is a lower board than this that is actually completely the same feature wise and electrical design wise and it's called MSI X570-A PRO. The only thing on it that is of lower quality is the size of the CPU-s VRM heatsink which doesn't matter if you plan to use any kind of Ryzen 3000 series CPU (from 4c/4t and up to 16c/32t) at stock clocks and settings.
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Actually Hardware Overclocking: there is a lower board than this that is actually completely the same feature wise and electrical design wise and it's called MSI X570-A PRO. The only thing on it that is of lower quality is the size of the CPU-s VRM heatsink which doesn't matter if you plan to use any kind of Ryzen 3000 series CPU (from 4c/4t and up to 16c/32t) at stock clocks and settings.
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Marcel
Very useful. Watch out if you use pc configuration sites. On alternate. at it was suggesting me a much costly power supply only because the configurator was looking for a power supply who support this 4 Pin or has this as a free space. The 4 pin cpu pin (according to this video) is not useful at all. After checking also other more price power supply I have saved at least 40 Euros.
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Very useful. Watch out if you use pc configuration sites. On alternate. at it was suggesting me a much costly power supply only because the configurator was looking for a power supply who support this 4 Pin or has this as a free space. The 4 pin cpu pin (according to this video) is not useful at all. After checking also other more price power supply I have saved at least 40 Euros.
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