Lian Li's Crazy O11D EVO XL Case, Fire-Detecting 12VHPWR Adapter, & Galahad 2 AIO (ft. CEO)
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Date: 2022-12-19
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omar
For the O11 dynamic:
- This vertical GPU needs some 4-6cm clearance between the GPU itself and these three fans in the back so the fans would be useful instead of being blocked by the back of the card. Maybe (somehow) make an AIO for the card itself, same idea as that NZXT one for GPUs (but with better implementation) for the high end 4000 series cards? This would limit the bottom AIO/Fan support to two fans instead of three (or four instead of three), though.
- I see a space that would be perfect for mounting 2x HDDs/SSDs on that GPU mount, but by the looks of it this has already been done
- I want to see this case somehow supporting a second ITX system instead of a second PSU. Maybe add the motherboard facing the other side with some holes for CPU cooler ventilation? This very system will be limited in CPU/cooling and PCIE card options, but I see this as a great solution for small NAS build with support for a couple HDDs - so say an ITX system with maybe i3-i5 (r3/r5) with one of those small fan heatsinks.
- And for the second system, I would like to see a separate front (or side) I/O panel with a separate power button. This might result in cable management hell though. Also for this idea, a 1500W+ dual system PSU (like the Phantex Revolt X) would be great.
- For the back panel, I envision a modular design with freedom to choose what to make - maybe two systems - ITX and micro ATX on the same motherboard tray?
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For the O11 dynamic:
- This vertical GPU needs some 4-6cm clearance between the GPU itself and these three fans in the back so the fans would be useful instead of being blocked by the back of the card. Maybe (somehow) make an AIO for the card itself, same idea as that NZXT one for GPUs (but with better implementation) for the high end 4000 series cards? This would limit the bottom AIO/Fan support to two fans instead of three (or four instead of three), though.
- I see a space that would be perfect for mounting 2x HDDs/SSDs on that GPU mount, but by the looks of it this has already been done
- I want to see this case somehow supporting a second ITX system instead of a second PSU. Maybe add the motherboard facing the other side with some holes for CPU cooler ventilation? This very system will be limited in CPU/cooling and PCIE card options, but I see this as a great solution for small NAS build with support for a couple HDDs - so say an ITX system with maybe i3-i5 (r3/r5) with one of those small fan heatsinks.
- And for the second system, I would like to see a separate front (or side) I/O panel with a separate power button. This might result in cable management hell though. Also for this idea, a 1500W+ dual system PSU (like the Phantex Revolt X) would be great.
- For the back panel, I envision a modular design with freedom to choose what to make - maybe two systems - ITX and micro ATX on the same motherboard tray?
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Mike
Ever since Lian Li released the original O11 Dynamic and Air, they have really done a lot to stay in tune with what customers want, without completely disrgarding the cost to the customer as well. The RGB fan add on is brilliant, and they already thought about it before putting the new AIOs on the market. For Lian Li to implemant a way to cut the initial cost of the AIO by not having all the RGB bling and then add it later, at a reasonable price, without having to buy an entire set of new fans is awesome. Most companies wouldn't even give a second thought to the cost to the customer if they wanted different fans than the ones that come in the box with the AIO. All they think about is, more money . I applaud Lian Li for setting a high bar that most other companies will never even attempt to reach because of corporate greed. While everything in the video is remarkable, even with some of it being in an unfinished state , the thing with the fans and RGB add on just stood out to me. What I like most about the new case is that it brings in some new ideas for hardware configurations. I'll leave the thinking outside of the box to Lian Li. I am definitely looking forward to the final product. Is it possible that there could be an end game computer case? One that no matter how many generations of hardware you buy, you never replace the case, because it's that damn good? If anyone can do it, I'd bet everything on Lian Li.
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Ever since Lian Li released the original O11 Dynamic and Air, they have really done a lot to stay in tune with what customers want, without completely disrgarding the cost to the customer as well. The RGB fan add on is brilliant, and they already thought about it before putting the new AIOs on the market. For Lian Li to implemant a way to cut the initial cost of the AIO by not having all the RGB bling and then add it later, at a reasonable price, without having to buy an entire set of new fans is awesome. Most companies wouldn't even give a second thought to the cost to the customer if they wanted different fans than the ones that come in the box with the AIO. All they think about is, more money . I applaud Lian Li for setting a high bar that most other companies will never even attempt to reach because of corporate greed. While everything in the video is remarkable, even with some of it being in an unfinished state , the thing with the fans and RGB add on just stood out to me. What I like most about the new case is that it brings in some new ideas for hardware configurations. I'll leave the thinking outside of the box to Lian Li. I am definitely looking forward to the final product. Is it possible that there could be an end game computer case? One that no matter how many generations of hardware you buy, you never replace the case, because it's that damn good? If anyone can do it, I'd bet everything on Lian Li.
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Joseph
Thank you Jameson for taking the time to show GN around!
My current workstation build wound up being a Corsair-based build, partly because the O11 SKU I wanted was out of stock, and partly because I know I have 100% control over the Corsair under Linux Wait, LEDs in a workstation? Yes! If one of my fans starts to have unstable tach readings, its LEDs light up a warning. If part of the case starts experiencing a hotspot, LEDs in that region light up a different warning. If I have a long process like compiling a huge codebase, rendering a long sequence, or even just ripping a blu-ray other LEDs will light up to indicate task complete. And when they're not conveying useful information, they look cool. Since NO hardware maker documents their USB device's protocols it's all gotta be reverse engineered.
But I'm definitely interested in Lian-Li's upcoming case designs. Coolers and blinkenlights will depend on how fast they get reverse-engineered or if protocols info actually gets released by someone.
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Thank you Jameson for taking the time to show GN around!
My current workstation build wound up being a Corsair-based build, partly because the O11 SKU I wanted was out of stock, and partly because I know I have 100% control over the Corsair under Linux Wait, LEDs in a workstation? Yes! If one of my fans starts to have unstable tach readings, its LEDs light up a warning. If part of the case starts experiencing a hotspot, LEDs in that region light up a different warning. If I have a long process like compiling a huge codebase, rendering a long sequence, or even just ripping a blu-ray other LEDs will light up to indicate task complete. And when they're not conveying useful information, they look cool. Since NO hardware maker documents their USB device's protocols it's all gotta be reverse engineered.
But I'm definitely interested in Lian-Li's upcoming case designs. Coolers and blinkenlights will depend on how fast they get reverse-engineered or if protocols info actually gets released by someone.
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Sr
I really like that daisy chain AOI radiator. Alphacool has a similar product, their Eisbaer line, which is more on the open loop than the closed one, since you can separate one of the tubes and add another radiator or/and a GPU block.
I got the Eisbaer 420 and I just got a 3090 with a waterblock, so I plan on doing just that and adding it to my AIO .
Maybe Lian Li should look into it, and either sell two rads with the tubes already together, or add some kind of an easy way to attach more radiators. And don't forget about pointing out the pump strenght (ie, it supports up to 3 240mm rads or 2 360mm or something like that).
Another note, I like the daisy chain fans, but maybe you could find a way to add that functionality to the radiator itself. Maybe some people want to have 3 fans on one side and only 1 fan for a push pull on the other side of the radiator, and more possibilities.
Thank you and hope you keep improving the PC building community with your products.
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I really like that daisy chain AOI radiator. Alphacool has a similar product, their Eisbaer line, which is more on the open loop than the closed one, since you can separate one of the tubes and add another radiator or/and a GPU block.
I got the Eisbaer 420 and I just got a 3090 with a waterblock, so I plan on doing just that and adding it to my AIO .
Maybe Lian Li should look into it, and either sell two rads with the tubes already together, or add some kind of an easy way to attach more radiators. And don't forget about pointing out the pump strenght (ie, it supports up to 3 240mm rads or 2 360mm or something like that).
Another note, I like the daisy chain fans, but maybe you could find a way to add that functionality to the radiator itself. Maybe some people want to have 3 fans on one side and only 1 fan for a push pull on the other side of the radiator, and more possibilities.
Thank you and hope you keep improving the PC building community with your products.
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Pliash
BUT ! Its glass,,,,,, NO Danish designer would make something like that.
Then again most people actually do not have a sophisticated taste, so it will probably be fine.
MIND you, if a Dane could design the PCB and what not you can see thru the glass, then maybe we could come up with something reasonable.
Mind you X2 my current case are of course a Lian li,,,,,, and it is of course modded by yours truly.
But it is a 10 - 15 years old Lian Li case.
Dont get me wrong, i like what i see here.
regarding fin density in radiator, today not as much of a problem if you still want performance and low noise,,,,, 20 years ago or there about it was a whole other game.
I like the dual AIO setup, but i think all Lian Li can do is tailor it to one of their own cases, and then just take what ever else people can shoehorn it into.
A IDea if possible would be to have quick connectors in between the 2 rads to accommodate a longer distance in between the 2
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BUT ! Its glass,,,,,, NO Danish designer would make something like that.
Then again most people actually do not have a sophisticated taste, so it will probably be fine.
MIND you, if a Dane could design the PCB and what not you can see thru the glass, then maybe we could come up with something reasonable.
Mind you X2 my current case are of course a Lian li,,,,,, and it is of course modded by yours truly.
But it is a 10 - 15 years old Lian Li case.
Dont get me wrong, i like what i see here.
regarding fin density in radiator, today not as much of a problem if you still want performance and low noise,,,,, 20 years ago or there about it was a whole other game.
I like the dual AIO setup, but i think all Lian Li can do is tailor it to one of their own cases, and then just take what ever else people can shoehorn it into.
A IDea if possible would be to have quick connectors in between the 2 rads to accommodate a longer distance in between the 2
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ISLE
On the Lian Li's O11D EVO XL Case, they should include a bracket for a Mini ITX motherboard so it can be mounted at the bottom of the case. Then the case becomes a dual PC. It can have the same dual PC layout as the Lian Li V3000 Plus. The Mini ITX motherboard can use the ASUS GPU as displayed in this video (with the pcie riser cable) and the ATX motherboard can use the GPU, capture cards, sound cards as normal. I have also noticed at the rear of the case it can require 2 PSUs. As for cooling the CPU on the Mini ITX motherboard, it can use either a 240 or 280 AIO at the bottom of the case. The same AIO layout like the V3000 Plus.
I like Lian Li V3000 Plus case although, its a bit too big for what I need it for. There is still no compact dual PC cases out there and I'm still waiting for one to be built. I believe Lian Li can make it happen with this case. Its the perfect size for a gamer/streamer dual PC set up.
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On the Lian Li's O11D EVO XL Case, they should include a bracket for a Mini ITX motherboard so it can be mounted at the bottom of the case. Then the case becomes a dual PC. It can have the same dual PC layout as the Lian Li V3000 Plus. The Mini ITX motherboard can use the ASUS GPU as displayed in this video (with the pcie riser cable) and the ATX motherboard can use the GPU, capture cards, sound cards as normal. I have also noticed at the rear of the case it can require 2 PSUs. As for cooling the CPU on the Mini ITX motherboard, it can use either a 240 or 280 AIO at the bottom of the case. The same AIO layout like the V3000 Plus.
I like Lian Li V3000 Plus case although, its a bit too big for what I need it for. There is still no compact dual PC cases out there and I'm still waiting for one to be built. I believe Lian Li can make it happen with this case. Its the perfect size for a gamer/streamer dual PC set up.
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JP
Regarding cost for o11 xl, the way I see it, the case is the PC component that has the longest life expectancy and having a good case can make it so much easier to set it up and upgrade parts over time. Lian li xl is not a cheap case and I think they should aim to be the cadillac of pc cases so please don't hesitate to invest in the best design/components/features even if that means increasing the price ;) cable routing is very important these days with all the cables needed for all the fans + the fan/rgb hubs take a lot of space, my ideal case would be designed in a way that most of these cables and hubs would have a clear documented best practice location so you would end up with nice cable management for most people without everyone having to reinvent the wheel. Toolless is the next feature I would like on my dream pc case ;)
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Regarding cost for o11 xl, the way I see it, the case is the PC component that has the longest life expectancy and having a good case can make it so much easier to set it up and upgrade parts over time. Lian li xl is not a cheap case and I think they should aim to be the cadillac of pc cases so please don't hesitate to invest in the best design/components/features even if that means increasing the price ;) cable routing is very important these days with all the cables needed for all the fans + the fan/rgb hubs take a lot of space, my ideal case would be designed in a way that most of these cables and hubs would have a clear documented best practice location so you would end up with nice cable management for most people without everyone having to reinvent the wheel. Toolless is the next feature I would like on my dream pc case ;)
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CMDR
This is why I became a Lian Li snob, and possibly why having custom cable holders as Steve mentioned is useful.
To me, the impression I always got from Lian Li is that they thought up solutions and your issue with what hardware you had the cables you had, you weren't trailblazing.
It sort of felt like Oh, this piece is like perfect for me and making this work
That is why I will always pick a Lian Li case for myself, it removes the pain and annoyances that comes with maintenance on a built system where it could be cramped.
Jameson, best of luck, keep at it and never let that passion you put into products die, that is what sets you apart from the rest of the market!
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This is why I became a Lian Li snob, and possibly why having custom cable holders as Steve mentioned is useful.
To me, the impression I always got from Lian Li is that they thought up solutions and your issue with what hardware you had the cables you had, you weren't trailblazing.
It sort of felt like Oh, this piece is like perfect for me and making this work
That is why I will always pick a Lian Li case for myself, it removes the pain and annoyances that comes with maintenance on a built system where it could be cramped.
Jameson, best of luck, keep at it and never let that passion you put into products die, that is what sets you apart from the rest of the market!
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Jonas
Something I've always respected about Lian Li is the balance between quality and scrappy(innovative without wasting too much money on over-polishing) efforts they've made on their products.
They always seem to bring something fun, and a good value to the table, even if it isn't perfect.
More often than not, a lot of their case designs border on timeless.
When it comes to stuff like their daisy-chain fans, it's refreshing.
For a company that's been around as long as they have at this point, it's incredible to be able to say that they don't appear to have sold their soul for safe gains from a consumer standpoint.
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Something I've always respected about Lian Li is the balance between quality and scrappy(innovative without wasting too much money on over-polishing) efforts they've made on their products.
They always seem to bring something fun, and a good value to the table, even if it isn't perfect.
More often than not, a lot of their case designs border on timeless.
When it comes to stuff like their daisy-chain fans, it's refreshing.
For a company that's been around as long as they have at this point, it's incredible to be able to say that they don't appear to have sold their soul for safe gains from a consumer standpoint.
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LiThiuM
Really really love that the CEO took of his time to come and help a bit and explain stuff, you can see that he's hands down on his product and really love them. That being said the two AIO cooler daisy chain is a good idea, BUT I have myself a 7000D which is a pretty beefy case and I don't see how I would fit this in my case. The two tubes connecting are two long and the stress on the bent would be too much in the long run or not aesthetically pleasing. The only solution that would increase the cost and the user error potential would be quick connect and 2x2 series of tube with different length.
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Really really love that the CEO took of his time to come and help a bit and explain stuff, you can see that he's hands down on his product and really love them. That being said the two AIO cooler daisy chain is a good idea, BUT I have myself a 7000D which is a pretty beefy case and I don't see how I would fit this in my case. The two tubes connecting are two long and the stress on the bent would be too much in the long run or not aesthetically pleasing. The only solution that would increase the cost and the user error potential would be quick connect and 2x2 series of tube with different length.
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CoolCat
That O11D EVO XL graphics card placement is so unoriginal. The hot air from the card is blown against the motherboard and the front glass. I really don't get why case manufacturers do not seem to try to get the hot air out of the case instead of circulating it inside the case. With a few select cards, some of the air will get straight through the outside but the vast majority of cards have a backplate across the full length and only vent the hot air to the sides. FWIW, the Lian Li Lancool II is a great design, if only the could move the power supply away from the bottom to the other side.
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That O11D EVO XL graphics card placement is so unoriginal. The hot air from the card is blown against the motherboard and the front glass. I really don't get why case manufacturers do not seem to try to get the hot air out of the case instead of circulating it inside the case. With a few select cards, some of the air will get straight through the outside but the vast majority of cards have a backplate across the full length and only vent the hot air to the sides. FWIW, the Lian Li Lancool II is a great design, if only the could move the power supply away from the bottom to the other side.
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Narf
Lian Li o11D EVO XL to much of a Toy case to me. In my opinion they are doing to much, stuff will rattle, quality will vary. The more parts you have the more likely is that the quality will suffer or that longterm things will break. Dont get me wrong i really like the o11 Dynamic XL im using, and i also like the EVO (even more tho bc its a step up in my opinion, only reason i havnt bought it for myself is that my 3 EK 360 XE rads wouldnt fit into the Evo with Phanteks T30 fans, while they do in the dynamic XL with slight modding). But with the Evo XL im not so sure yet.
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Lian Li o11D EVO XL to much of a Toy case to me. In my opinion they are doing to much, stuff will rattle, quality will vary. The more parts you have the more likely is that the quality will suffer or that longterm things will break. Dont get me wrong i really like the o11 Dynamic XL im using, and i also like the EVO (even more tho bc its a step up in my opinion, only reason i havnt bought it for myself is that my 3 EK 360 XE rads wouldnt fit into the Evo with Phanteks T30 fans, while they do in the dynamic XL with slight modding). But with the Evo XL im not so sure yet.
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Alan
dual- rad- AIO :
easy just leave it to the customer. Leave the 2 holes on the rads and sell the add-on rad as accessories, so is the tube. so whoever needs it, they can buy the extra parts for it. but then again, the hassel to fill the thing, and at the point might as well go open loop? but again, the price is the key here, and lianli doesnt have to invent new things here, but no matter what, it is gonna be super niche, imagine that kinda of person who can afford that kinda cpu, they got money to burn off on a custom loop.....so it is gonna be a fail.
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dual- rad- AIO :
easy just leave it to the customer. Leave the 2 holes on the rads and sell the add-on rad as accessories, so is the tube. so whoever needs it, they can buy the extra parts for it. but then again, the hassel to fill the thing, and at the point might as well go open loop? but again, the price is the key here, and lianli doesnt have to invent new things here, but no matter what, it is gonna be super niche, imagine that kinda of person who can afford that kinda cpu, they got money to burn off on a custom loop.....so it is gonna be a fail.
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Slay
Regarding the metal cable routing things-
Good idea, in theory. After 5-10 years of heat exposure the rubber will probably get hard and may develop cracks. Add the fact that bare screw heads are this close to the motherboard (not sure if this _may_ be an issue).
I can imagine a situation where after these dampers become hard and fragile someone puts in a new PSU and routes the cables causing the hard rubber to crumble, break and spring back the bracket in such a way that makes the screw head contact some motherboard through-hole pins.
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Regarding the metal cable routing things-
Good idea, in theory. After 5-10 years of heat exposure the rubber will probably get hard and may develop cracks. Add the fact that bare screw heads are this close to the motherboard (not sure if this _may_ be an issue).
I can imagine a situation where after these dampers become hard and fragile someone puts in a new PSU and routes the cables causing the hard rubber to crumble, break and spring back the bracket in such a way that makes the screw head contact some motherboard through-hole pins.
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