Ask GN 114: My AIO Will Explode? Tubes Down Don't Reach? Cavitation? Custom Loops?
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Date: 2020-08-25
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Hello everyone at GN!
I am not surprised by this situation with a lot of worried people. In general, people who test hardware, since they are enthusiasts themselves, go too far in looking for flaws or have high standards because they are deep in the matter . The percentage of those who care about such detail is calculated in single-digit percentages. Proof of this is the multitude of concerned spectators, some of whom did not even know how their water cooling was installed.
I personally love your content, to some extent ... :) From my point of view, GN is slowly growing into a kind of laboratory department for testing components that hardware manufacturers have. And if I like things like that, I often lose the will to continue watching videos due to the handful of information you present, which are only important - either to the companies whose hardware you are testing, or to a small circle of people who will use that hardware extremely unconventionally.
I don't know exactly how to explain ... But, when GN sometimes reviews a piece of hardware and concludes that, all in all, that the product is bad, it is sometimes presented in such a way that it is necessary to withdraw the product from sale due to many shortcomings that occurred during testing. Of the hundreds of products tested by GN, in how many cases have companies actually had to withdraw a product from sale? There were refinements and improvements, but it rarely happened that it was necessary to withdraw the product. These are just some of the reasons, which I noticed over time, why people reacted like this.
That is yours way of working and I understand that. If it weren't for the cost-effectiveness and interaction with the viewers, you certainly wouldn't last this long. However, I think that sometimes it is necessary to separate the reviews (or make accentuated divisions in the reviews themselves) into those from which the average user benefits the most, and those for enthusiasts, where each percentage is important.
Maybe it is important to me that the temperature of my processor and graphics card does not exceed 60 degrees and, in addition to all that, I do not hear the computer while it is working, but no one I know has such needs.
I hope you understand what I want to explain to you. :)
Many greetings from Serbia!
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Hello everyone at GN!
I am not surprised by this situation with a lot of worried people. In general, people who test hardware, since they are enthusiasts themselves, go too far in looking for flaws or have high standards because they are deep in the matter . The percentage of those who care about such detail is calculated in single-digit percentages. Proof of this is the multitude of concerned spectators, some of whom did not even know how their water cooling was installed.
I personally love your content, to some extent ... :) From my point of view, GN is slowly growing into a kind of laboratory department for testing components that hardware manufacturers have. And if I like things like that, I often lose the will to continue watching videos due to the handful of information you present, which are only important - either to the companies whose hardware you are testing, or to a small circle of people who will use that hardware extremely unconventionally.
I don't know exactly how to explain ... But, when GN sometimes reviews a piece of hardware and concludes that, all in all, that the product is bad, it is sometimes presented in such a way that it is necessary to withdraw the product from sale due to many shortcomings that occurred during testing. Of the hundreds of products tested by GN, in how many cases have companies actually had to withdraw a product from sale? There were refinements and improvements, but it rarely happened that it was necessary to withdraw the product. These are just some of the reasons, which I noticed over time, why people reacted like this.
That is yours way of working and I understand that. If it weren't for the cost-effectiveness and interaction with the viewers, you certainly wouldn't last this long. However, I think that sometimes it is necessary to separate the reviews (or make accentuated divisions in the reviews themselves) into those from which the average user benefits the most, and those for enthusiasts, where each percentage is important.
Maybe it is important to me that the temperature of my processor and graphics card does not exceed 60 degrees and, in addition to all that, I do not hear the computer while it is working, but no one I know has such needs.
I hope you understand what I want to explain to you. :)
Many greetings from Serbia!
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Stewart
Steve! Love your reviews, that's help me a lot to build up my new PC. I watched almost all of your videos, I love you win in LTT video compete wtih JayTwoCent. Great charity bro. I buy the pc products only with your review. I bought Ryzen 5 3600, MSI X570 Tomahawk Wifi, CM ML240R (AIO) top mounted , Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 3200MHz 8Gb x2, Zotac RTX 2070 Super Amp, 2x Gigabyte M.2 1Tb (Gen3) in the CM H500 Mesh Chasis. I watched your Overclocking 3600XT on Asus motherboard and chaning Clock ratio and timing on 4000Mhz RAM (Overkill). I tried to follow everystep of Bios setup to disable the safty voltage feature, but I can't find some in my x570 Tomahawk bios. After I watch your video, I checked my CPU Chip SOC Voltage is almost 1.5 which is at 1.48, It almost toasted. I reduced it down to 1.3v. My RAM XMP 3200Mhz -tCL 16, tRCD 18, tRP 18, tRAS 36, tRC 54, tRFC 560, tFAW 36. I hope my RAM can be improve. I wish you can make a video How to Step-by-step guide to OC R5 3600, MSI x570 Tomahawk, Corsair Vengeance Pro 3200Mhz [Mid range consumers]. TYSM Steve!
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Steve! Love your reviews, that's help me a lot to build up my new PC. I watched almost all of your videos, I love you win in LTT video compete wtih JayTwoCent. Great charity bro. I buy the pc products only with your review. I bought Ryzen 5 3600, MSI X570 Tomahawk Wifi, CM ML240R (AIO) top mounted , Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 3200MHz 8Gb x2, Zotac RTX 2070 Super Amp, 2x Gigabyte M.2 1Tb (Gen3) in the CM H500 Mesh Chasis. I watched your Overclocking 3600XT on Asus motherboard and chaning Clock ratio and timing on 4000Mhz RAM (Overkill). I tried to follow everystep of Bios setup to disable the safty voltage feature, but I can't find some in my x570 Tomahawk bios. After I watch your video, I checked my CPU Chip SOC Voltage is almost 1.5 which is at 1.48, It almost toasted. I reduced it down to 1.3v. My RAM XMP 3200Mhz -tCL 16, tRCD 18, tRP 18, tRAS 36, tRC 54, tRFC 560, tFAW 36. I hope my RAM can be improve. I wish you can make a video How to Step-by-step guide to OC R5 3600, MSI x570 Tomahawk, Corsair Vengeance Pro 3200Mhz [Mid range consumers]. TYSM Steve!
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Romeozor
Watched the initial video, on a phone, maybe that was the issue cos of the small screen, but I don't have time to rewatch a 30 minute video. The way you demonstrated how things should be and shouldn't be waving something in the air didn't make it clear. Yes there were cuts to builds showing something , but then you are not visible, so there's a disconnect.
Flipped my front mounted rad yesterday and now I sleep better. I actually had it in the back of my head that the tubes should be at the bottom when I assembled my PC, but the video card didn't leave much space for convenience. Ripped the bandaid, squeezed the tubes in, explosion averted. It was probably time, too, cos it's a 2 year old AIO.
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Watched the initial video, on a phone, maybe that was the issue cos of the small screen, but I don't have time to rewatch a 30 minute video. The way you demonstrated how things should be and shouldn't be waving something in the air didn't make it clear. Yes there were cuts to builds showing something , but then you are not visible, so there's a disconnect.
Flipped my front mounted rad yesterday and now I sleep better. I actually had it in the back of my head that the tubes should be at the bottom when I assembled my PC, but the video card didn't leave much space for convenience. Ripped the bandaid, squeezed the tubes in, explosion averted. It was probably time, too, cos it's a 2 year old AIO.
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bernhard85
i am running the corsair h100i v2 on my wifes pc and it hasnt ever made any noise with the tubes on top with the radiator front mounted, not to say its the best for it it just doesnt fit the other way and i emptied it after the third year of use and changed the fluid because i dont trust the stock coolant to not build up some gunk at some point even though after three years i didnt find really anything of worry in the fluid, so thats good but yeah one day ill lengthen the tubes and everything but for now no noise or real temp changes when its flipped and i set it in the case so i hooked it back the way it was ill keep an eye on it though so thanks for your research with this though
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i am running the corsair h100i v2 on my wifes pc and it hasnt ever made any noise with the tubes on top with the radiator front mounted, not to say its the best for it it just doesnt fit the other way and i emptied it after the third year of use and changed the fluid because i dont trust the stock coolant to not build up some gunk at some point even though after three years i didnt find really anything of worry in the fluid, so thats good but yeah one day ill lengthen the tubes and everything but for now no noise or real temp changes when its flipped and i set it in the case so i hooked it back the way it was ill keep an eye on it though so thanks for your research with this though
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84Actionjack
I watched the previous video in its entirety; sold and no questions. Issue thoroughly covered. However, I've installed AIOs at the front intake of cases with the tubes up for over 10 years and have never had one die or caused excessive noise with that type of installation (other installs have had problems), yet I get your point and am attempting to rectify all current installs where possible. Unfortunately, case manufacturers generally don't allow a 360 rad AIO in a frontal installation to fit with tubes down. Hopefully they get your message. Thanks for the informative video.
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I watched the previous video in its entirety; sold and no questions. Issue thoroughly covered. However, I've installed AIOs at the front intake of cases with the tubes up for over 10 years and have never had one die or caused excessive noise with that type of installation (other installs have had problems), yet I get your point and am attempting to rectify all current installs where possible. Unfortunately, case manufacturers generally don't allow a 360 rad AIO in a frontal installation to fit with tubes down. Hopefully they get your message. Thanks for the informative video.
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Steven
I understand detail being important but the way mainstream users is used throughout this video reeks of the PC elitism that is really a problem in this community. Although some questions are clearly not well thought out you mostly brought this on yourself by not having a better tl;dr in the original video. Those who you're happy are opening their cases for the first time are unlikely to be spending 20 minutes watching your videos and to honest they should be able to rely on a summary. It can be summarised in a few pictures as the manufactures did so there's no reason you couldn't.
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I understand detail being important but the way mainstream users is used throughout this video reeks of the PC elitism that is really a problem in this community. Although some questions are clearly not well thought out you mostly brought this on yourself by not having a better tl;dr in the original video. Those who you're happy are opening their cases for the first time are unlikely to be spending 20 minutes watching your videos and to honest they should be able to rely on a summary. It can be summarised in a few pictures as the manufactures did so there's no reason you couldn't.
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AaronShenghao
To the person made a comment mentioned like 20:29 . I am so sorry to inform you lives were lost because of marketing/administrative stood in the way of engineers. One of the most famous case would be the Challenger disaster. The engineer designed the solid booster (SRB) knew, warned, and refused to sign on the paperwork for the launch because the temperature on the day was really too low for the giant O-ring. Due to the nature of the launch NASA pressured SRB manufacturer to sign and interns the management pressured on the engineer... You know what happened next...
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To the person made a comment mentioned like 20:29 . I am so sorry to inform you lives were lost because of marketing/administrative stood in the way of engineers. One of the most famous case would be the Challenger disaster. The engineer designed the solid booster (SRB) knew, warned, and refused to sign on the paperwork for the launch because the temperature on the day was really too low for the giant O-ring. Due to the nature of the launch NASA pressured SRB manufacturer to sign and interns the management pressured on the engineer... You know what happened next...
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blendonator
Okay! So, let's say that I'm concerned about the low caloric intake of my CPU while gaming, and I replace the water with Kool-Aid. Would the sugar cause cavitation in the barbs if I rotate the radiator 95 degrees to the left, with the motor hovering over the system, attached to a drone that rises proportional to the inverse of the temperature, but only if hyper threading is disabled? Also, same question, but AMD instead of Intel. Ok go!
Jokes aside, it's a good topic! I had no idea prior to the first video. Thanks!
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Okay! So, let's say that I'm concerned about the low caloric intake of my CPU while gaming, and I replace the water with Kool-Aid. Would the sugar cause cavitation in the barbs if I rotate the radiator 95 degrees to the left, with the motor hovering over the system, attached to a drone that rises proportional to the inverse of the temperature, but only if hyper threading is disabled? Also, same question, but AMD instead of Intel. Ok go!
Jokes aside, it's a good topic! I had no idea prior to the first video. Thanks!
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RKTGX95
Hey GN, not really related (and i've sent an email about it a while ago) but i'm super intrigued:
Could you please look into Scythe's CPU coolers? Like Arctic, they're a serious competitor for Noctua in terms of Value given price.
Specifically, the Fuma 2 cooler has a very interesting claim about it's fan configuration, that if you have 2 fans spinning in different directions (say clockwise and counter) you generate higher Static Pressure across the heatsink.
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Hey GN, not really related (and i've sent an email about it a while ago) but i'm super intrigued:
Could you please look into Scythe's CPU coolers? Like Arctic, they're a serious competitor for Noctua in terms of Value given price.
Specifically, the Fuma 2 cooler has a very interesting claim about it's fan configuration, that if you have 2 fans spinning in different directions (say clockwise and counter) you generate higher Static Pressure across the heatsink.
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Terra
Loved the last video. Twice my pump started making noise due to air being mixed with water. It'd only stop if I tilted my computer to the left side about 15 degrees. Unfortunately mounting the aio on the front with the hoses down is impossible for me because my big gpu gets in the way so I mounted my second replacement aio on the top as exhaust. I've only had this second replacement aio for 4 days now so I'm glad that video came out when it did
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Loved the last video. Twice my pump started making noise due to air being mixed with water. It'd only stop if I tilted my computer to the left side about 15 degrees. Unfortunately mounting the aio on the front with the hoses down is impossible for me because my big gpu gets in the way so I mounted my second replacement aio on the top as exhaust. I've only had this second replacement aio for 4 days now so I'm glad that video came out when it did
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