Switching To Bspwm - Initial Thoughts DistroTube
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Date: 2022-03-30
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Chulito
Mr. Taylor and distro-friends.
I just did a Fedora Rawhide install on hardware. This was about my 5th Fedora install on hardware and 2nd of Rawhide, so nothing surprising happened. Kernel is 5.4.0.rc0, which only sounds cool, because it seems to be working. I have about 20 man-hours on hardware with the new Fedora 31 Beta, and now about 20 minutes on Rawhide. At this stage, there seems to be microscopical differences. For example, in Fedora 31 Beta, systemd is 243.0, and in Rawhide it is 243.0.1. DNF is 4.2.9-3 in Rawhide. I will have to go back and check what it was in Fedora 31 Beta. DNF being a major tool in Fedora, especially if you only use command-line, which I assume most Rawhide users do. I am to scared to install too much as it is pulling in stuff from Fedora 31 ( mixing releases ? ), and I have no idea if that is likely to cause a future problem. It is kind of cool that Settings says -Fedora 32.- It did detect my fancy new HP OfficeJet Pro 9018 ( called it 9010 series ), out of the box. I will likely just remove this SSD, and pop it back in ever so often and update it and play with it. In summary, I can't see any reason for anybody to do what I just did.
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Mr. Taylor and distro-friends.
I just did a Fedora Rawhide install on hardware. This was about my 5th Fedora install on hardware and 2nd of Rawhide, so nothing surprising happened. Kernel is 5.4.0.rc0, which only sounds cool, because it seems to be working. I have about 20 man-hours on hardware with the new Fedora 31 Beta, and now about 20 minutes on Rawhide. At this stage, there seems to be microscopical differences. For example, in Fedora 31 Beta, systemd is 243.0, and in Rawhide it is 243.0.1. DNF is 4.2.9-3 in Rawhide. I will have to go back and check what it was in Fedora 31 Beta. DNF being a major tool in Fedora, especially if you only use command-line, which I assume most Rawhide users do. I am to scared to install too much as it is pulling in stuff from Fedora 31 ( mixing releases ? ), and I have no idea if that is likely to cause a future problem. It is kind of cool that Settings says -Fedora 32.- It did detect my fancy new HP OfficeJet Pro 9018 ( called it 9010 series ), out of the box. I will likely just remove this SSD, and pop it back in ever so often and update it and play with it. In summary, I can't see any reason for anybody to do what I just did.
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Matt
Here's why I think notion is the -tiling WM to kill all other tiling WMs- ...
- Static and manually-arranged tiling ... you lay out virtual screens with the layouts YOU want, the WM doesn't mess with them
- Minimalist ... there's almost no decoration or extra screen entities - only a minimal title bar of each tile
- Tile tabbing ... the minimal tile title bar doubles as a tab bar, and you can pile as many windows as you want into a tile and tab between them
- Configuration is simple, comprehensive, and native LUA, so you can actually leverage some programming in the configuration itself
- The entire WM is extensible with LUA
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Here's why I think notion is the -tiling WM to kill all other tiling WMs- ...
- Static and manually-arranged tiling ... you lay out virtual screens with the layouts YOU want, the WM doesn't mess with them
- Minimalist ... there's almost no decoration or extra screen entities - only a minimal title bar of each tile
- Tile tabbing ... the minimal tile title bar doubles as a tab bar, and you can pile as many windows as you want into a tile and tab between them
- Configuration is simple, comprehensive, and native LUA, so you can actually leverage some programming in the configuration itself
- The entire WM is extensible with LUA
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Chris
Constructive criticism: -bspc is a specific program that is installed with bspwm that takes care of some stuff-.... I mean I have watched a lot of your videos and EVERY tiling WM you have talked about has this client program in some form or another allowing you to control the state of the WM from the command line. Just explain it, its a huge gap for people wanting to get into it, and I'm pretty sure you know this information :)
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Constructive criticism: -bspc is a specific program that is installed with bspwm that takes care of some stuff-.... I mean I have watched a lot of your videos and EVERY tiling WM you have talked about has this client program in some form or another allowing you to control the state of the WM from the command line. Just explain it, its a huge gap for people wanting to get into it, and I'm pretty sure you know this information :)
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Adrian
In my opnion the best WM so far. Fast, stable, lightweight, written in C, nice window layout and repositioning mechanism, responsiveness, follows Unix philosophy. DWM is nice, but the patching is a big hassel. Every time a new version is released it needs a long time to patch it anew. Xmonad... Haskell is my nemesis. Qtile Python is nice but slow.
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In my opnion the best WM so far. Fast, stable, lightweight, written in C, nice window layout and repositioning mechanism, responsiveness, follows Unix philosophy. DWM is nice, but the patching is a big hassel. Every time a new version is released it needs a long time to patch it anew. Xmonad... Haskell is my nemesis. Qtile Python is nice but slow.
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Diego
Can I ask something quickly? I want to be able to do this: Select a file and open it from vifm but have the actual file opened in vim in another window in bspwm. I'm having a rough time trying to do that, any clues you can give me? Just to lead me in the right direction. Thanks in advance and excelent video, by the way
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Can I ask something quickly? I want to be able to do this: Select a file and open it from vifm but have the actual file opened in vim in another window in bspwm. I'm having a rough time trying to do that, any clues you can give me? Just to lead me in the right direction. Thanks in advance and excelent video, by the way
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ctrlPain
Very nice, the only problem I have, though, Spacemacs / Emacs do not tile, just opens in the center, on top of the other windows.
Also, you don't have the panel.sh in the repo. I just replaced it with the polybar launch.sh, I guess that was the idea.
Thanks dt!
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Very nice, the only problem I have, though, Spacemacs / Emacs do not tile, just opens in the center, on top of the other windows.
Also, you don't have the panel.sh in the repo. I just replaced it with the polybar launch.sh, I guess that was the idea.
Thanks dt!
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Kevin
Has anyone tried the Wayland port, BSPWC? I can't find -any- documentation for it, and I can't figure out the corrollary to bspc for it. (On the other hand, bspwm's man page is fine for me, documentation-wise.)
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Has anyone tried the Wayland port, BSPWC? I can't find -any- documentation for it, and I can't figure out the corrollary to bspc for it. (On the other hand, bspwm's man page is fine for me, documentation-wise.)
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TKelos
i mean i used openbox with a tiling script for a loooooooooong time until i got into real tiling
mainly because i had experience with bb4win
i really want to switch but it's just kinda scary you know
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i mean i used openbox with a tiling script for a loooooooooong time until i got into real tiling
mainly because i had experience with bb4win
i really want to switch but it's just kinda scary you know
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Fuseteam
i have a binding for switching ibus layout
one day i accidentally selected dvorak and all my keybindings were scrambled
that i button mashed like a mad man to find the language keybinding ---
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i have a binding for switching ibus layout
one day i accidentally selected dvorak and all my keybindings were scrambled
that i button mashed like a mad man to find the language keybinding ---
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Stnby
I was hopping between window managers every few months till I found BSPWM and instantly fell in love. Hope you do as well.
I truly think this is the best window manager out there :)
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I was hopping between window managers every few months till I found BSPWM and instantly fell in love. Hope you do as well.
I truly think this is the best window manager out there :)
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