What OVERTRAINING Looks Like! (YES IT'S REAL)
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Date: 2022-04-22
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Robbie
Hi Jeff; i purchased 2 of your programs. Xero and AX1 ( i needed some thing i could do away from my home) Anyway; i just wanted to say how much I hate, and love your program LOL. From the off; it's a bit of a challenge for me. But I love it. im sore, but not for long. So far i've only been at it for 3 weeks and i can already tell a difference in my clothes and when i'm out working. I have to thank you for helping this, 48 year old man. I really thot i was finished. Working was hard; i have problems with my thoracic area, which causes me to stay home most days. OVer the passed 3 weeks i have felt NO major pain in that area or down my ribs. I didn't think i was going to like your program and hence, the reason why i say i love and hate it. One of the leg days was a bit to intense for me and it took me an extra day to heal from it, but it healed and i got right back to it. You meal program is very helpful: some people want to over complicated it, but the easier the better. I'm not a highly educated person and really really apprecitate all your knowledge and advice on staying active and fit.
I cant thank you enough.
THank you Jeff,
Robbie
P. S, a watch every video in the program. they have really helped me understand the body better. you're doing a amazing job helping us all know what
-fraud's- to look out for.
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Hi Jeff; i purchased 2 of your programs. Xero and AX1 ( i needed some thing i could do away from my home) Anyway; i just wanted to say how much I hate, and love your program LOL. From the off; it's a bit of a challenge for me. But I love it. im sore, but not for long. So far i've only been at it for 3 weeks and i can already tell a difference in my clothes and when i'm out working. I have to thank you for helping this, 48 year old man. I really thot i was finished. Working was hard; i have problems with my thoracic area, which causes me to stay home most days. OVer the passed 3 weeks i have felt NO major pain in that area or down my ribs. I didn't think i was going to like your program and hence, the reason why i say i love and hate it. One of the leg days was a bit to intense for me and it took me an extra day to heal from it, but it healed and i got right back to it. You meal program is very helpful: some people want to over complicated it, but the easier the better. I'm not a highly educated person and really really apprecitate all your knowledge and advice on staying active and fit.
I cant thank you enough.
THank you Jeff,
Robbie
P. S, a watch every video in the program. they have really helped me understand the body better. you're doing a amazing job helping us all know what
-fraud's- to look out for.
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Kevin
The hard part is when does training turn into overtraining. Ive had issues gaining muscle and tend to lose muscle when I train, or I gain both fat and muscle equally. I eat very clean, nothing processed, no sugar, no gluten, no dairy. Measure ALL macros and still have this issue. I do work out longer but its all cause I worry that I'm not working enough. Im never feeling like im dying or overly tired. I time my rest periods and train to failure. Sometimes the workout calls for beyond failure so I will rest pause an additional 5 reps but still feel like the gains a very slow. Wish there was a way to pinpoint what is training and what is overtraining.
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The hard part is when does training turn into overtraining. Ive had issues gaining muscle and tend to lose muscle when I train, or I gain both fat and muscle equally. I eat very clean, nothing processed, no sugar, no gluten, no dairy. Measure ALL macros and still have this issue. I do work out longer but its all cause I worry that I'm not working enough. Im never feeling like im dying or overly tired. I time my rest periods and train to failure. Sometimes the workout calls for beyond failure so I will rest pause an additional 5 reps but still feel like the gains a very slow. Wish there was a way to pinpoint what is training and what is overtraining.
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jeffrey
I understand the damage overtraining can do, because I have been there like most, but only 20 sets? How can you work all the muscle groups in even a week if you are only completing 20 sets per workout. the forearm has 6 muscle group in it self. The forearm would be almost a 1 day of training and that is it.
I am just getting back into training again, I am older and I train now metabolically along with your other training recommendations and would like to have your opinions on this. what about 42 sets per workout?
At least then we could possibly hit all the muscle groups twice a week.
Best regards,
Jeffrey
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I understand the damage overtraining can do, because I have been there like most, but only 20 sets? How can you work all the muscle groups in even a week if you are only completing 20 sets per workout. the forearm has 6 muscle group in it self. The forearm would be almost a 1 day of training and that is it.
I am just getting back into training again, I am older and I train now metabolically along with your other training recommendations and would like to have your opinions on this. what about 42 sets per workout?
At least then we could possibly hit all the muscle groups twice a week.
Best regards,
Jeffrey
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Jonatan
It depends on what results you are after! Perhaps it works well if you aren't very specific in your goals, just wanting to get fitter in a general sense. If you are going for explosive strength I believe you need to rest more in-between sets. Sprinters, for example, do not rest 1 min between every race, rather 5-15 min depending on where they are in the season. Olympic lifters probably rest a lot longer time than 1 min between sets as well. In these and other circumstances it is essential to be fully recovered to be able to give close to 100 %, or they become more like cross-fitters.
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It depends on what results you are after! Perhaps it works well if you aren't very specific in your goals, just wanting to get fitter in a general sense. If you are going for explosive strength I believe you need to rest more in-between sets. Sprinters, for example, do not rest 1 min between every race, rather 5-15 min depending on where they are in the season. Olympic lifters probably rest a lot longer time than 1 min between sets as well. In these and other circumstances it is essential to be fully recovered to be able to give close to 100 %, or they become more like cross-fitters.
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Dominic
I'm doing 3 sets to failure through 90 minute gym sessions every week twice, doing 3-4 different exercises for each muscle group. Even though I'm doing everything to failure from the very first exercise, I only feel any muscle fatigue only the last 20 minutes, because before that I fully recuperate in the 1 minute rest period. I could use larger weights so that -to failure- would take less reps and be more strenuous, but I don't see the point. To failure, is to failure, and I'm sore for the next 2 days just the same.
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I'm doing 3 sets to failure through 90 minute gym sessions every week twice, doing 3-4 different exercises for each muscle group. Even though I'm doing everything to failure from the very first exercise, I only feel any muscle fatigue only the last 20 minutes, because before that I fully recuperate in the 1 minute rest period. I could use larger weights so that -to failure- would take less reps and be more strenuous, but I don't see the point. To failure, is to failure, and I'm sore for the next 2 days just the same.
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Josh
I think training duration isn't really that accurate because if you're training for high skill demand movement especially like Gymnastics where you do handstand and power moves chances are you're going to be training for at least 2 1/2 hours because it's not that intense but you have to fire enough stimulus for your brain to respond on that motor pattern. But if you're training is just heavy compound moves then Jeff is right 1 hour is more than enough.
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I think training duration isn't really that accurate because if you're training for high skill demand movement especially like Gymnastics where you do handstand and power moves chances are you're going to be training for at least 2 1/2 hours because it's not that intense but you have to fire enough stimulus for your brain to respond on that motor pattern. But if you're training is just heavy compound moves then Jeff is right 1 hour is more than enough.
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Nightwinflyer
A lot of the old school lifters I've seen that are over 60 have blown hips, knees, and shoulders. Chronic damage, they limp around. A lot of marathon runners have heart attacks at around 50 from years of running and training for several hours a day. The heart wears out early because they keep an elevated heartbeat so often. Old football players have brain damage. The evidence is all around besides the examples Jeff gives here.
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A lot of the old school lifters I've seen that are over 60 have blown hips, knees, and shoulders. Chronic damage, they limp around. A lot of marathon runners have heart attacks at around 50 from years of running and training for several hours a day. The heart wears out early because they keep an elevated heartbeat so often. Old football players have brain damage. The evidence is all around besides the examples Jeff gives here.
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HumanPlayer
Thank You athleanx for this advice, but i hate to break it to you im a 16 years old overtraining myself with a recreational dumbbell and i've gain mass on my muscle in just 1 month and every day i do lifting alone.
FACT: NOT EVERY BODY CAN TRAIN THE SAME TRAINING ROUTINE BECAUSE EVERY BODY HAS A DIFFERENT WANT
ANOHER FACT: ITS THE MINDSET THAT MAKE YOU GO AND HAVE THAT MUSCLE MASS. IN SHORT, ITS IN YOU DRIVE: )
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Thank You athleanx for this advice, but i hate to break it to you im a 16 years old overtraining myself with a recreational dumbbell and i've gain mass on my muscle in just 1 month and every day i do lifting alone.
FACT: NOT EVERY BODY CAN TRAIN THE SAME TRAINING ROUTINE BECAUSE EVERY BODY HAS A DIFFERENT WANT
ANOHER FACT: ITS THE MINDSET THAT MAKE YOU GO AND HAVE THAT MUSCLE MASS. IN SHORT, ITS IN YOU DRIVE: )
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Daniel
I know when I rush thru a workout (60 second rest) my next seems easier with the same weight or I can handle it for more reps or increase the weight the next workout. When I take my time- 3-4 minutes between sets my next workout shows no improvement and often the lack of ability to use the same weight I used when taking my time. The theory Jeff is talking about is often called the General Adaptation Syndrome.
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I know when I rush thru a workout (60 second rest) my next seems easier with the same weight or I can handle it for more reps or increase the weight the next workout. When I take my time- 3-4 minutes between sets my next workout shows no improvement and often the lack of ability to use the same weight I used when taking my time. The theory Jeff is talking about is often called the General Adaptation Syndrome.
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Jason
I have been taking your training methods I'm bored and I am pleased to say that I have seen much anticipated results of improvement after reading some of these messages I feel that these people do not want to improve that just want to tell you what their opinions are and to be honest with you no one cares with the opinions are thumbs up to you thank you for the advice I have taken it and I am succeeding
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I have been taking your training methods I'm bored and I am pleased to say that I have seen much anticipated results of improvement after reading some of these messages I feel that these people do not want to improve that just want to tell you what their opinions are and to be honest with you no one cares with the opinions are thumbs up to you thank you for the advice I have taken it and I am succeeding
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