
The #1 Workout That BLEW UP My Shoulders (3 Exercises)
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Date: 2023-11-19
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Marin
Multiple things don't make sense in the Exercise #1 section (from 0: 30 until 3: 49):
- The (behind the body) lateral cable raise has the same issue he identifies with the dumbell lateral raise -- namely, that it gets harder the more the muscle contracts, and that it's the easiest at the bottom. It's obviously the easiest when the cable is not even stretched. Even with his fix of putting the cable anchor a bit higher, the cable is still less stretched when hand is down than when you're at the peak of the lateral raise.
If you lift the cable anchor even more (e. g. to shoulder height, you're not even doing the raise, you start to get into a pushdown.
- Regarding the studies he gives on long muscle length training, it's questionable how applicable those study results are to this, since those are all done on exercises where in the default setting the hardest part already is when the muscle is stretched (and the change is just in further flexing with a changed body posture) -- this is qualitatively different than the exercise in this video.
- Confusing the effects of drop-sets with this long muscle length stuff (at around 2: 10.
- The results of the study discussed by its author at 2: 38 has essentially nothing to do with the exercise regime proposed by Jeremy immediately after the study discussion. It's a very low effort attempt at science-basing.
- This is not his first science-based game-changing delt video. And he always says he finally found a science-based (always emphasized and illustrated by putting on glasses and a white tank top) way to get his delts massive. But, his delts have been the same through the years. He just says they're different but it's very easy to check there's actually been very little change.
Didn't watch the other two exercises yet.
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Multiple things don't make sense in the Exercise #1 section (from 0: 30 until 3: 49):
- The (behind the body) lateral cable raise has the same issue he identifies with the dumbell lateral raise -- namely, that it gets harder the more the muscle contracts, and that it's the easiest at the bottom. It's obviously the easiest when the cable is not even stretched. Even with his fix of putting the cable anchor a bit higher, the cable is still less stretched when hand is down than when you're at the peak of the lateral raise.
If you lift the cable anchor even more (e. g. to shoulder height, you're not even doing the raise, you start to get into a pushdown.
- Regarding the studies he gives on long muscle length training, it's questionable how applicable those study results are to this, since those are all done on exercises where in the default setting the hardest part already is when the muscle is stretched (and the change is just in further flexing with a changed body posture) -- this is qualitatively different than the exercise in this video.
- Confusing the effects of drop-sets with this long muscle length stuff (at around 2: 10.
- The results of the study discussed by its author at 2: 38 has essentially nothing to do with the exercise regime proposed by Jeremy immediately after the study discussion. It's a very low effort attempt at science-basing.
- This is not his first science-based game-changing delt video. And he always says he finally found a science-based (always emphasized and illustrated by putting on glasses and a white tank top) way to get his delts massive. But, his delts have been the same through the years. He just says they're different but it's very easy to check there's actually been very little change.
Didn't watch the other two exercises yet.
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Solomon
If you started with narrow shoulders, your shoulders will always stay somewhat narrow. Let me explain why:
The side delt isn't a muscle you can grow as much strength-wise (we're talking absolute values) since lateral raises and other side delt exercises are done with far lower weights than pretty much every other exercise in the gym. You can't add 100kg to your lateral raises like you can to your leg presses or squats.
I have gone from 7kg on the cable to 16kg on the cable lateral raise.
Yet I started at around 35kg on the machine press ( 1RM) and am now at 73 for a few reps. My 1RM is 77 now.
My chest press has increased by 42kg, yet my lateral raise has only increased by 9kg. That's a huge difference.
I've not been particularly consistent or especially bothered with my training, but I have always followed full body, so never undertrained one muscle relative to the other, yet the difference in my bigger lifts is far more than the lateral raise.
My shoulders were wide and muscular from the get-go when I was just 16, and they look a little more muscular and a little wider but nothing ridiculous. My arms, back (especially) and legs, though. that's a different story.
I hope I explained myself well enough here!
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If you started with narrow shoulders, your shoulders will always stay somewhat narrow. Let me explain why:
The side delt isn't a muscle you can grow as much strength-wise (we're talking absolute values) since lateral raises and other side delt exercises are done with far lower weights than pretty much every other exercise in the gym. You can't add 100kg to your lateral raises like you can to your leg presses or squats.
I have gone from 7kg on the cable to 16kg on the cable lateral raise.
Yet I started at around 35kg on the machine press ( 1RM) and am now at 73 for a few reps. My 1RM is 77 now.
My chest press has increased by 42kg, yet my lateral raise has only increased by 9kg. That's a huge difference.
I've not been particularly consistent or especially bothered with my training, but I have always followed full body, so never undertrained one muscle relative to the other, yet the difference in my bigger lifts is far more than the lateral raise.
My shoulders were wide and muscular from the get-go when I was just 16, and they look a little more muscular and a little wider but nothing ridiculous. My arms, back (especially) and legs, though. that's a different story.
I hope I explained myself well enough here!
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Mika
My shoulders blew up after your previous video where you tested muscle activation % in shoulders. I've always done shoulder press, however I do seated barbell. Can only go to 80kg but I've had spinal surgery.
What made the difference for me, was I started doing the cable reverse flies. They BLEW UP over the next few months. 100% are the secret hidden gem your dr doesn't know about.
I haven't tried the behind-the-body side raises, will throw them in too. I have had good results from standard shoulder raises tbh, I go heavy enough that if I told you, other people would call me a liar on the internet. Nice to do something slightly lighter but with greater time under tension sometimes.
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My shoulders blew up after your previous video where you tested muscle activation % in shoulders. I've always done shoulder press, however I do seated barbell. Can only go to 80kg but I've had spinal surgery.
What made the difference for me, was I started doing the cable reverse flies. They BLEW UP over the next few months. 100% are the secret hidden gem your dr doesn't know about.
I haven't tried the behind-the-body side raises, will throw them in too. I have had good results from standard shoulder raises tbh, I go heavy enough that if I told you, other people would call me a liar on the internet. Nice to do something slightly lighter but with greater time under tension sometimes.
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Pacal
I fastened resistance bands to my wall, which pretty well duplicates what a cable pull can do (not as good of course, but good enough. I also typically combine this method (using my PowerBlock dumbbells) with my incline bench press, underhand flies, flat bench press, and close grip bench press. Now you have me thinking that I should also combine this method with my lateral raises. Hmmm.
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I fastened resistance bands to my wall, which pretty well duplicates what a cable pull can do (not as good of course, but good enough. I also typically combine this method (using my PowerBlock dumbbells) with my incline bench press, underhand flies, flat bench press, and close grip bench press. Now you have me thinking that I should also combine this method with my lateral raises. Hmmm.
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James
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Investing now should be in every wise individuals list, in some months time you'll be ecstatic with the decision you made today. The Inflation is killing me prices is killing us all. The money made is not enough to sort everything out and the family. What we need is a lucrative business or investment. And I just did and very proud I did!
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Miha
without even looking at the video: swimming
I was 15 at the time and I bought a 3 month ticket at my local swimming pool. I went from a 12 year old to a 18 year old in those 3 months.
You can not change my mind: swimming is the single best exercise for gaining mass/width.
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without even looking at the video: swimming
I was 15 at the time and I bought a 3 month ticket at my local swimming pool. I went from a 12 year old to a 18 year old in those 3 months.
You can not change my mind: swimming is the single best exercise for gaining mass/width.
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sport
I have tried doing lateral raises with the cable set up behind me, and the position feels extremely unnatural hence I've switched back to doing cable lateral raises with my cable set up in front. Am I making perhaps a mistake with the exercise?
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I have tried doing lateral raises with the cable set up behind me, and the position feels extremely unnatural hence I've switched back to doing cable lateral raises with my cable set up in front. Am I making perhaps a mistake with the exercise?
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Rounak
Wow simply just wow bro you are doing a excellent and brilliant work by telling about this workout that will breakup our shoulders and keep it up and keep up the good work as always and take care
Keep smiling always
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Wow simply just wow bro you are doing a excellent and brilliant work by telling about this workout that will breakup our shoulders and keep it up and keep up the good work as always and take care
Keep smiling always
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TheGamer
I speak for most indians here. We all want to pay for the fitness program but we don't have dollars to pay through. If u could add rupees as a currency as well. I believe many people will pay for it
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I speak for most indians here. We all want to pay for the fitness program but we don't have dollars to pay through. If u could add rupees as a currency as well. I believe many people will pay for it
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Max
So I've been doing the wrong exercises you recommended in your latest BWS program that I purchased?
You teach the old stuff in the courses and here you teach the good new stuff, that's unfair Jeremy
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So I've been doing the wrong exercises you recommended in your latest BWS program that I purchased?
You teach the old stuff in the courses and here you teach the good new stuff, that's unfair Jeremy
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gibs40
After I started doing cable lateral raises, my side delts grew considerably. Truly the best lateral raise variation. And also because of the cable reverse flys my rear delts grew noticeably
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After I started doing cable lateral raises, my side delts grew considerably. Truly the best lateral raise variation. And also because of the cable reverse flys my rear delts grew noticeably
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BelaComplex
This tattoo makes him look like a N zi.
Why do you have an eagle ) so prominently on your chest and with it's wings out looking to the side. The reichstag used to have that
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This tattoo makes him look like a N zi.
Why do you have an eagle ) so prominently on your chest and with it's wings out looking to the side. The reichstag used to have that
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Fitness4London
Great exercise recommendations. For me personally, cable/rope face-pulls have helped grow my rear delts effectively. I do 5 sets, starting light and progressing to heavy.
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Great exercise recommendations. For me personally, cable/rope face-pulls have helped grow my rear delts effectively. I do 5 sets, starting light and progressing to heavy.
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Illaul
There is an area right between side delt and top surface area. Even though side delts grow out there is always that slight muscle deficient area. I wonder how do you grow that.
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There is an area right between side delt and top surface area. Even though side delts grow out there is always that slight muscle deficient area. I wonder how do you grow that.
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Rusty
Great video! Especially the DB overhead press. I had to switch to the dumbbells a while back. My shoulders did not like the barbell overheads at all. Clicking and popping! Ouch!
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Great video! Especially the DB overhead press. I had to switch to the dumbbells a while back. My shoulders did not like the barbell overheads at all. Clicking and popping! Ouch!
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Fal
Some ppl in comments talking smack but this guy has a relateable physique for most guys. and summaries scientific information for us. Lets be grateful bros
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Some ppl in comments talking smack but this guy has a relateable physique for most guys. and summaries scientific information for us. Lets be grateful bros
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Zaddy
You should do a timelapse of your physique from the first video to this one. You are a great example of combining nutrition, training and patience.
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You should do a timelapse of your physique from the first video to this one. You are a great example of combining nutrition, training and patience.
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Rick
At age 73 (With right & left rotator surgeries) I need to be cautious with weights and angles. Jeremy always provides possible alternatives. Thanks
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At age 73 (With right & left rotator surgeries) I need to be cautious with weights and angles. Jeremy always provides possible alternatives. Thanks
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Yeli
My man got some more ink! It is a nice ink and is cool that the eagle/birds moves, but I do not like the zone where it is. That had to hurt.
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My man got some more ink! It is a nice ink and is cool that the eagle/birds moves, but I do not like the zone where it is. That had to hurt.
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Tobi
How about lateral raises with dumbbells while lying down on the side with only half the range of motion? Without access to a cable machine
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How about lateral raises with dumbbells while lying down on the side with only half the range of motion? Without access to a cable machine
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