Dodge Durango Long Term Update 2 So Far So Good
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Date: 2020-01-15
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Stephen Hendricks
Alex, thank you, thank you, thank you for your comments about reliability. As you note, almost all modern vehicles are highly reliable, especially compared to a decade or two ago. In fact, when I was a kid and dinosaurs roamed the highways a vehicle that lasted for 100K miles without completely falling apart rated a small article in the local newspaper. Today almost any new vehicle can be expected to last well over that 100K standard. And every manufacturer offers a bumper-to-bumper warranty of at least 3 years/36K-50 miles and power train warranties about twice that. The reason? Very, very few vehicles fail in any way during those periods. The longer warranties offered by the Korean brands are reassuring but they're primarily a marketing tool originally meant to counter perceptions that the brands were cheap and failure prone. It's true that the most widely available and comprehensive source of data on reliability, the annual survey of Consumer Reports readers, routinely puts Toyota products at or near the top of the list. But it's also the case that CR provides rankings of reliability not actual incidence of problems. In fact, virtually all major brands have very similar and very low incidence of problems over the period that a new car buyer owns a vehicle. That's supported by the fact that rankings among brands change fairly frequently from year to year. A statistician will point out that's a pattern that stems from simple sampling error. Toyota products typically retain their high rankings year after year as a result of the company's extremely conservative engineering philosophy that frequently avoids introduction of innovative features (e. g. turbocharged engines) It's a good business strategy for Toyota for whom reliability is the single highest priority in their marketing. It may well serve Toyota very well but the price consumers pay is relatively late introduction of new technology and innovative features.
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Alex, thank you, thank you, thank you for your comments about reliability. As you note, almost all modern vehicles are highly reliable, especially compared to a decade or two ago. In fact, when I was a kid and dinosaurs roamed the highways a vehicle that lasted for 100K miles without completely falling apart rated a small article in the local newspaper. Today almost any new vehicle can be expected to last well over that 100K standard. And every manufacturer offers a bumper-to-bumper warranty of at least 3 years/36K-50 miles and power train warranties about twice that. The reason? Very, very few vehicles fail in any way during those periods. The longer warranties offered by the Korean brands are reassuring but they're primarily a marketing tool originally meant to counter perceptions that the brands were cheap and failure prone. It's true that the most widely available and comprehensive source of data on reliability, the annual survey of Consumer Reports readers, routinely puts Toyota products at or near the top of the list. But it's also the case that CR provides rankings of reliability not actual incidence of problems. In fact, virtually all major brands have very similar and very low incidence of problems over the period that a new car buyer owns a vehicle. That's supported by the fact that rankings among brands change fairly frequently from year to year. A statistician will point out that's a pattern that stems from simple sampling error. Toyota products typically retain their high rankings year after year as a result of the company's extremely conservative engineering philosophy that frequently avoids introduction of innovative features (e. g. turbocharged engines) It's a good business strategy for Toyota for whom reliability is the single highest priority in their marketing. It may well serve Toyota very well but the price consumers pay is relatively late introduction of new technology and innovative features.
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Paul M
Be careful about issues. They will start happening with this generation of Grand Cherokee and Durango past 30, 000 miles. My recommendation get a extended MOPAR warranty, it will pay for itself. My issues, 2015 Grand Cherokee: 2 thermostats. CEL. Steering Rack leaking, had to be replaced (1500 if not covered by MOPAR extended warranty. Transmission intercooler (radiator) leaked and had to be replaced (another 1500 if not covered by MOPAR extended warranty)oil pan leaking and fixed (1200 if not covered by MOPAR extended warranty)oil pump leaking - CEL(1200 if not covered by MOPAR extended warranty)PSIMS (emissions module) replaced. Two windows regulators. Rear shocks replaced. I have that Jeep still and it has 110, 000 miles now. It has good ride and isolation, and everything logically laid out. The 3. 6 liter Pentastar is solid. But be careful of issues with this vehicle without a MOPAR extended warrarnty. And, quality of work varies greatly based on Jeep dealer you go to. My recommednation, stay away, get a Highlander or Pilot
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Be careful about issues. They will start happening with this generation of Grand Cherokee and Durango past 30, 000 miles. My recommendation get a extended MOPAR warranty, it will pay for itself. My issues, 2015 Grand Cherokee: 2 thermostats. CEL. Steering Rack leaking, had to be replaced (1500 if not covered by MOPAR extended warranty. Transmission intercooler (radiator) leaked and had to be replaced (another 1500 if not covered by MOPAR extended warranty)oil pan leaking and fixed (1200 if not covered by MOPAR extended warranty)oil pump leaking - CEL(1200 if not covered by MOPAR extended warranty)PSIMS (emissions module) replaced. Two windows regulators. Rear shocks replaced. I have that Jeep still and it has 110, 000 miles now. It has good ride and isolation, and everything logically laid out. The 3. 6 liter Pentastar is solid. But be careful of issues with this vehicle without a MOPAR extended warrarnty. And, quality of work varies greatly based on Jeep dealer you go to. My recommednation, stay away, get a Highlander or Pilot
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James Mastroianni
That same powertrain in the ram 1500 is rated for a little over 10, 000lbs so powertrain isnt the issue. I would be more concerned about rear suspension. The stiff rear race suspension is likely the reason since it also means better weight bearing. Unless you really needed that third row (idk your family situation) a grand cherokee with a 5. 7 would tow just as much and be much more premium in design, especially a summit trim. But you could get a cheaper limited x trim with the offroad package since you live in the middle of no where and have the best of everythingSide note, you mentioned you didn't have your first service yet? When towing you're supposed to do oil changes like every 3-4000 miles. So you should be nearing your second service. And since you plan on buying it, I would be a lot more worried about matinence.
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That same powertrain in the ram 1500 is rated for a little over 10, 000lbs so powertrain isnt the issue. I would be more concerned about rear suspension. The stiff rear race suspension is likely the reason since it also means better weight bearing. Unless you really needed that third row (idk your family situation) a grand cherokee with a 5. 7 would tow just as much and be much more premium in design, especially a summit trim. But you could get a cheaper limited x trim with the offroad package since you live in the middle of no where and have the best of everythingSide note, you mentioned you didn't have your first service yet? When towing you're supposed to do oil changes like every 3-4000 miles. So you should be nearing your second service. And since you plan on buying it, I would be a lot more worried about matinence.
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Michael Smith
I've owned multiple Dodge/FCA products and they've served me quite reliably over my 35 years of driving. You would be surprised on how many owners of cars who don't really maintain their vehicles from any manufacturer driving months upon months with their CE indicator light on then when the vehicle fails they blame the company for their neglect. Our current FCA product is the 2018 Jeep Renegade Latitude and we've been thoroughly impressed with the vehicle overall granted there are some small nuances like the 2. 4l power level isn't the best and It could really use about 20 hp more and about 50 ft lbs of torque to really make it a better overall performer. 10, 000 miles so far and not 1 issue whatsoever. I can see this Jeep going over 100k with no major problems whatsoever with just minor maintenance and care.
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I've owned multiple Dodge/FCA products and they've served me quite reliably over my 35 years of driving. You would be surprised on how many owners of cars who don't really maintain their vehicles from any manufacturer driving months upon months with their CE indicator light on then when the vehicle fails they blame the company for their neglect. Our current FCA product is the 2018 Jeep Renegade Latitude and we've been thoroughly impressed with the vehicle overall granted there are some small nuances like the 2. 4l power level isn't the best and It could really use about 20 hp more and about 50 ft lbs of torque to really make it a better overall performer. 10, 000 miles so far and not 1 issue whatsoever. I can see this Jeep going over 100k with no major problems whatsoever with just minor maintenance and care.
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Stephen Hendricks
Haven't owned a Dodge (or any Chrysler product) since the 1963 Dodge Dart that got me through college. That was in the day when I decorated it with huge flower decals and had to deal with being stopped by cops in Mississippi who figured (correctly) that I was an outside agitating hippie. Since then I avoided the numerous rattletraps of the K car era and never found a Chrysler product that appealed to me or met my needs. A couple of years ago, however, a friend bought a Durango and loved it. I was impressed as well. Personally, the greatest towing challenge I face is moving a couple of wheeled trash cans from my house down a long driveway to the street once a week. But if I needed to tow gigantic water tanks and earth moving equipment as Alex does, I'd put the Durango at or near the top of my list.
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Haven't owned a Dodge (or any Chrysler product) since the 1963 Dodge Dart that got me through college. That was in the day when I decorated it with huge flower decals and had to deal with being stopped by cops in Mississippi who figured (correctly) that I was an outside agitating hippie. Since then I avoided the numerous rattletraps of the K car era and never found a Chrysler product that appealed to me or met my needs. A couple of years ago, however, a friend bought a Durango and loved it. I was impressed as well. Personally, the greatest towing challenge I face is moving a couple of wheeled trash cans from my house down a long driveway to the street once a week. But if I needed to tow gigantic water tanks and earth moving equipment as Alex does, I'd put the Durango at or near the top of my list.
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Frank Marzegliano
my brother worked for dodge dealership for a year in the parts dept. and there is a problem with the 3. 6 V6 in that the valve train goes off the guides/bearings. also my cousin owns a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 3. 6 V6 and he has electrical issues. something to do when Chrysler was owned by Daimler benz and were using German wiring. you got the V8 so no worries there, it's stout. just be aware of electrical gremlins in the future and I sure hope that doesn't happen. I think every 6 months you should update any vehicle you have long term good bad or indifferent.
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my brother worked for dodge dealership for a year in the parts dept. and there is a problem with the 3. 6 V6 in that the valve train goes off the guides/bearings. also my cousin owns a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 3. 6 V6 and he has electrical issues. something to do when Chrysler was owned by Daimler benz and were using German wiring. you got the V8 so no worries there, it's stout. just be aware of electrical gremlins in the future and I sure hope that doesn't happen. I think every 6 months you should update any vehicle you have long term good bad or indifferent.
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I'm saudi and my friends have it and love it and say it is very reliable car. They had way more than 150k miles on it and travel a lot with it but not towing trailer behind. I'm surprised cus i was planning to buy 5 yrs ago just like them but was worried about reliability. Here you are saying same things they love about it
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I'm saudi and my friends have it and love it and say it is very reliable car. They had way more than 150k miles on it and travel a lot with it but not towing trailer behind. I'm surprised cus i was planning to buy 5 yrs ago just like them but was worried about reliability. Here you are saying same things they love about it
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Mr5 Stars
Please expand on your view regarding the car RELIABILITY vs. a Lexus. If like most people, you plan to keep a car for 5-7 years, most NEW cars will be RELIABLE. only if you are planning to keep for 10 hrs or one 100k miles that RELIABILITY becomes an issue. I had a brand new 2014 Chrysler 300 and it was reliable, no issues for 60k miles 4 years
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Please expand on your view regarding the car RELIABILITY vs. a Lexus. If like most people, you plan to keep a car for 5-7 years, most NEW cars will be RELIABLE. only if you are planning to keep for 10 hrs or one 100k miles that RELIABILITY becomes an issue. I had a brand new 2014 Chrysler 300 and it was reliable, no issues for 60k miles 4 years
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Ethan
Alex, I watch and look forward to your videos, but I dont recall hearing about center console UI crashes in other vehicle. Youd have more authority as a reviewer if we know we hear about all the good and bad things that happen during a review.
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Alex, I watch and look forward to your videos, but I dont recall hearing about center console UI crashes in other vehicle. Youd have more authority as a reviewer if we know we hear about all the good and bad things that happen during a review.
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Bruce Solomon
Ive had my Durango 3. 6 since 2012 and havent had a problem in 65, 000 miles except that I needed to replace the cabin filter for the ac. Ive even run it on ethanol after hurricanes when no one else could find gas. I love my Durango.
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Ive had my Durango 3. 6 since 2012 and havent had a problem in 65, 000 miles except that I needed to replace the cabin filter for the ac. Ive even run it on ethanol after hurricanes when no one else could find gas. I love my Durango.
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