Firebird Trans Am - Fuel Pump Replacement Part I
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Date: 2020-08-05
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Wesley
I currently have an 85 T/A and have owned 3 other 3rd gen F bodys. My 85 is carbed but I replaced the entire fuel tank due to rust inside it. It was a pain and costly because of all the other little bits and bobs that had to be replaced to get the old tank out and a new tank in. My other 3 were an 88 T/A similar to this one up to a 92 Camaro. I replaced fuel pumps on all of those in the tank and I cut an access hole. I don't know any 3rd gen owners who don't cut holes and make a sheet metal patch with a thin rubber gasket to change the fuel pump.
I'm sure the owner has their reasons not to ask Eric to just cut a hole and replace it but if it wasn't a friend they would have just spent a likely 600-1000 all in to replace a fuel pump on a car worth 3500-5500. It was a good video but anyone who owns one of these cars was shaking their head the entire time. Maybe SMA doesn't do that kind of repair as a rule I don't know but GM made hundreds of thousands of 3rd gen F body cars there isn't a reason to go all in and do all of this for the fuel pump on one. Cut her open and put a patch in with a gasket/gasket maker and some speed nuts
In the last 20 years I haven't seen a fuel injected 3rd gen with a replaced fuel pump that didn't have a hole cut in the floor above the fuel sending unit. It just makes zero sense to spend that time/effort/money to remove the fuel tank. It doesn't matter if you are doing it at home under the shade tree or having a shop do it. The floor is under carpet and insulation and nobody will ever know you cut a hole to replace the fuel pump.
Pain in the butt issue for 3rd gen owners with an easy and well tested solution. I gave up on a mullet years ago since the hair on top of my head went on strike and never returned to the production floor.
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I currently have an 85 T/A and have owned 3 other 3rd gen F bodys. My 85 is carbed but I replaced the entire fuel tank due to rust inside it. It was a pain and costly because of all the other little bits and bobs that had to be replaced to get the old tank out and a new tank in. My other 3 were an 88 T/A similar to this one up to a 92 Camaro. I replaced fuel pumps on all of those in the tank and I cut an access hole. I don't know any 3rd gen owners who don't cut holes and make a sheet metal patch with a thin rubber gasket to change the fuel pump.
I'm sure the owner has their reasons not to ask Eric to just cut a hole and replace it but if it wasn't a friend they would have just spent a likely 600-1000 all in to replace a fuel pump on a car worth 3500-5500. It was a good video but anyone who owns one of these cars was shaking their head the entire time. Maybe SMA doesn't do that kind of repair as a rule I don't know but GM made hundreds of thousands of 3rd gen F body cars there isn't a reason to go all in and do all of this for the fuel pump on one. Cut her open and put a patch in with a gasket/gasket maker and some speed nuts
In the last 20 years I haven't seen a fuel injected 3rd gen with a replaced fuel pump that didn't have a hole cut in the floor above the fuel sending unit. It just makes zero sense to spend that time/effort/money to remove the fuel tank. It doesn't matter if you are doing it at home under the shade tree or having a shop do it. The floor is under carpet and insulation and nobody will ever know you cut a hole to replace the fuel pump.
Pain in the butt issue for 3rd gen owners with an easy and well tested solution. I gave up on a mullet years ago since the hair on top of my head went on strike and never returned to the production floor.
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Jim
when back in the day, 1969 I was looking over a full line of Camaro's the whole of them. then I seen
a 69 blue white vinyl top, fake wood dash council, white seats black carpet, I quickly discovered what a boat anchor it was.
the back end would beat the front end around a corner if you weren't paying close attention.
looked great, drove like carp. dumped it went back to sedans. the real muscle cars. dirty jeans, holes in my shoes,
square like a brick, went like the wind, passed everything but the gas stations. -> I was paying 35 cents a gallon, to a shell gas station before it went with the going rates. fun days. go to the drive in in a four door 1955 Caddy, awesome. only you couldn't just idle the engine for heat or the batt would die, brush generator's,
a long walk home for the bird. -) good stuff, although not vary mature.
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when back in the day, 1969 I was looking over a full line of Camaro's the whole of them. then I seen
a 69 blue white vinyl top, fake wood dash council, white seats black carpet, I quickly discovered what a boat anchor it was.
the back end would beat the front end around a corner if you weren't paying close attention.
looked great, drove like carp. dumped it went back to sedans. the real muscle cars. dirty jeans, holes in my shoes,
square like a brick, went like the wind, passed everything but the gas stations. -> I was paying 35 cents a gallon, to a shell gas station before it went with the going rates. fun days. go to the drive in in a four door 1955 Caddy, awesome. only you couldn't just idle the engine for heat or the batt would die, brush generator's,
a long walk home for the bird. -) good stuff, although not vary mature.
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GGALLIN1776
Never thought of using an air hammer on locks, I always just hammered a crapsman socket on so after I broke it get a new one for free.
Luckily my 87 Camaro had a mechanical pump, none of that drop the tank nonsense( it was a huge mix of metric & standard throughout the car which sucked. like with 90s blazers, they would only failed when the tank was full so you had to deal with 15. 7 gallons of gas before swapping.
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Never thought of using an air hammer on locks, I always just hammered a crapsman socket on so after I broke it get a new one for free.
Luckily my 87 Camaro had a mechanical pump, none of that drop the tank nonsense( it was a huge mix of metric & standard throughout the car which sucked. like with 90s blazers, they would only failed when the tank was full so you had to deal with 15. 7 gallons of gas before swapping.
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Paul
This is one time I disagree with Eric. I cut the access door approach in my 94 Z28 to change the fuel pump. With-in 15 minutes I had complete access to the fuel pump. Good thing I did, on the first road test I smelled gas. The O seal didn't seat properly the first time. Imagine redoing what Eric is doing twice and not getting paid the second time.
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This is one time I disagree with Eric. I cut the access door approach in my 94 Z28 to change the fuel pump. With-in 15 minutes I had complete access to the fuel pump. Good thing I did, on the first road test I smelled gas. The O seal didn't seat properly the first time. Imagine redoing what Eric is doing twice and not getting paid the second time.
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Paul
Eric is a GREAT mechanic, I love seeing his video's and hearing his humor. He should have his own cable show, I hate seeing these celebrity so called mechanics with brand new tools of every kind and the black and white tile floors you can eat off of. Eric is the real deal and honest, he's a real world mechanic.
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Eric is a GREAT mechanic, I love seeing his video's and hearing his humor. He should have his own cable show, I hate seeing these celebrity so called mechanics with brand new tools of every kind and the black and white tile floors you can eat off of. Eric is the real deal and honest, he's a real world mechanic.
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Christopher
On those old fuel pump or tank replacements, you can sometimes get lucky by removing the return fuel line. When the car is started you can then run the fuel into a container or several to empty the tank. The caveat is this requires some element of the existing pump being able to function at some level.
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On those old fuel pump or tank replacements, you can sometimes get lucky by removing the return fuel line. When the car is started you can then run the fuel into a container or several to empty the tank. The caveat is this requires some element of the existing pump being able to function at some level.
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Ren
brings back great memories a few years ago I made a bet that my buddy would launch the red transam off the incline on the boat ramp and reach the otherside. well lets just say the car got flooded lol, but it wasnt a total bust because the car was gonna be scrapped anyways
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brings back great memories a few years ago I made a bet that my buddy would launch the red transam off the incline on the boat ramp and reach the otherside. well lets just say the car got flooded lol, but it wasnt a total bust because the car was gonna be scrapped anyways
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William
Have a '78 Trans Am sitting in the garage since '89 hope when the time comes I won't have to cut an access panel and hopefully it will come out easier than this one. Wonder if it would be easier since my gas cap is behind the license plate?
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Have a '78 Trans Am sitting in the garage since '89 hope when the time comes I won't have to cut an access panel and hopefully it will come out easier than this one. Wonder if it would be easier since my gas cap is behind the license plate?
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Corbett
I don't know about the 88 that do know the 86 a different direction the muffler and cat are on front side rear end and going vertical with the car length and not side to side that a after market setup
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I don't know about the 88 that do know the 86 a different direction the muffler and cat are on front side rear end and going vertical with the car length and not side to side that a after market setup
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Ryan
2020, still here with ya. If I can do it, you can do it.
Also, lack of brake-clean.
Actually, I'm here because GM and MOPAR have almost 100% kept my shop full. lol
Not a sponsor////
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2020, still here with ya. If I can do it, you can do it.
Also, lack of brake-clean.
Actually, I'm here because GM and MOPAR have almost 100% kept my shop full. lol
Not a sponsor////
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