Top 5 of the FASTEST Train in Europe
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Date: 2024-01-09
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-goldfing5898
Very informative video. Of course the definiton of -best train- should be precised, because what matters if you are going to travel a certain route is not only the comfort of the class (low-cost to business, if you can afford it) but also the _availability_ of this train on this route, the speed of the train _and_ the speed of the track. For instance, the Frecciarossa 1000 is no option for Germany or for Paris to Marseille, and the Eurostar is not available in Italy. And the theoretical speed of up to 360 or 400 km/h is irrelevant because there is no high speed line in Europe where you may drive that fast.
To my knowledge, the maximum speed in Europe is 320 km/h, which can be achieved by serveral trains like TGV Duplex, Siemens Velaro and Frecciarossa, but France is the only country in which this speed is really achieved on some lines. In Spain, it is 310 km/h, in Belgium, Italy and Germany 300 km/h, but in Germany only on relatively few sections, so the German ICE 3 (Siemens, which could theoretically go up to 330 km/h, can only do 320 km/h, and this only in France, not in Germany. This leads to some strange situations and conditions to take into account.
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Very informative video. Of course the definiton of -best train- should be precised, because what matters if you are going to travel a certain route is not only the comfort of the class (low-cost to business, if you can afford it) but also the _availability_ of this train on this route, the speed of the train _and_ the speed of the track. For instance, the Frecciarossa 1000 is no option for Germany or for Paris to Marseille, and the Eurostar is not available in Italy. And the theoretical speed of up to 360 or 400 km/h is irrelevant because there is no high speed line in Europe where you may drive that fast.
To my knowledge, the maximum speed in Europe is 320 km/h, which can be achieved by serveral trains like TGV Duplex, Siemens Velaro and Frecciarossa, but France is the only country in which this speed is really achieved on some lines. In Spain, it is 310 km/h, in Belgium, Italy and Germany 300 km/h, but in Germany only on relatively few sections, so the German ICE 3 (Siemens, which could theoretically go up to 330 km/h, can only do 320 km/h, and this only in France, not in Germany. This leads to some strange situations and conditions to take into account.
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-johannesjakob5041
Hi Thibault, thx for that great video. I enjoy all of your content from Europe or the US. I totally agree with your list with the frecciarossa on top. I tried both trenitalia and iryo and it was such a awesome experience. I hope the services expand and show all people of Europe how nice a train ride can be. As for the ICE, from a perspective as a German, for me a love-hate relationship: ) i wish Deutsche Bahn would enhance their service and use the center position of the country better. Maybe in the Future.
Two last question i really want your opinion on is; firstly what you think of the TGV-M, can bring this new generation a new time for SNCF and the TGV's as a whole, and secondly; what is your opinion on Le Train, this new private train operator in France that will launch in 2026 with Talgo Avril Trains, can it shake the Market of train travel in France or what could happen instead happen?
All the best to you my friend.
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Hi Thibault, thx for that great video. I enjoy all of your content from Europe or the US. I totally agree with your list with the frecciarossa on top. I tried both trenitalia and iryo and it was such a awesome experience. I hope the services expand and show all people of Europe how nice a train ride can be. As for the ICE, from a perspective as a German, for me a love-hate relationship: ) i wish Deutsche Bahn would enhance their service and use the center position of the country better. Maybe in the Future.
Two last question i really want your opinion on is; firstly what you think of the TGV-M, can bring this new generation a new time for SNCF and the TGV's as a whole, and secondly; what is your opinion on Le Train, this new private train operator in France that will launch in 2026 with Talgo Avril Trains, can it shake the Market of train travel in France or what could happen instead happen?
All the best to you my friend.
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-Ven100
I find the Dayse 1st Class TGV Duplex interior much better than Siemens E320 Eurostar Standard Premiere. Granted you get more service via Standard Premiere, the seats are just more comfortable in the Duplex. Took the -7 hour Ouigo from Barcelona to Paris solo seat and caught the Eurostar back to London connection. As luck would have it, the person who was sitting behind me on the Ouigo was sitting directly infront of me in Standard Premier in the solo-seats that have a table in between. It was so odd and we found it hilarious that we both were travelling solo and decided to take HSR from Barcelona to London. We both agreed that the Ouigo interior was better.
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I find the Dayse 1st Class TGV Duplex interior much better than Siemens E320 Eurostar Standard Premiere. Granted you get more service via Standard Premiere, the seats are just more comfortable in the Duplex. Took the -7 hour Ouigo from Barcelona to Paris solo seat and caught the Eurostar back to London connection. As luck would have it, the person who was sitting behind me on the Ouigo was sitting directly infront of me in Standard Premier in the solo-seats that have a table in between. It was so odd and we found it hilarious that we both were travelling solo and decided to take HSR from Barcelona to London. We both agreed that the Ouigo interior was better.
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-Dunkcanio
You're not wrong about the TGV and luggage.
Many years ago, the very helpful booking office lady at Cologne Hbf booked me an additional seat just for my large rucksack on the Thalys to Brussels! Great service.
Was underwhelmed by the Frecciarossa though. Cheap suburban train like interior with very dirty windows. For InterCity trains I think there has to be carpet, and not lino/vinyl floor coverings.
IMHO:
3 - Class 374 Eurostar
2 - TGV Ouigo Duplex upstairs
1 - ICE 3 behind the driving position.
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You're not wrong about the TGV and luggage.
Many years ago, the very helpful booking office lady at Cologne Hbf booked me an additional seat just for my large rucksack on the Thalys to Brussels! Great service.
Was underwhelmed by the Frecciarossa though. Cheap suburban train like interior with very dirty windows. For InterCity trains I think there has to be carpet, and not lino/vinyl floor coverings.
IMHO:
3 - Class 374 Eurostar
2 - TGV Ouigo Duplex upstairs
1 - ICE 3 behind the driving position.
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-duncanmcewan1049
Having seen enough of your videos, I could have picked these for you; ) I was least surprised about #1. That Executive class is insane and the only time i have seen similar is the -Gran Class- on some of the Shinkansen (There is also Premium Green Class, but I haven't seen much on that yet. Great train geek video: ) For me, the Shinkansen wins hands down for everything from service, to punctuality, to just looking so damn amazing. Although that Executive class is very appealing!
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Having seen enough of your videos, I could have picked these for you; ) I was least surprised about #1. That Executive class is insane and the only time i have seen similar is the -Gran Class- on some of the Shinkansen (There is also Premium Green Class, but I haven't seen much on that yet. Great train geek video: ) For me, the Shinkansen wins hands down for everything from service, to punctuality, to just looking so damn amazing. Although that Executive class is very appealing!
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-Cepia120
I think one of the best Higth speed trains in europe is the Talgo 250. why(That operates on Alvia and Euromed services) (The 730 series Bi mode onlly operates on Alvia services)
Sounds (The acelation sounds are amezing)
versatility ( It can change voltage and gauge) (the renfe 730 its a bi mode version of the Talgo 250)
Looks (It look likes a litle duck)
Rigth now these train are geting a interior refubement wich looks much better than it previus hospital loking interior.
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I think one of the best Higth speed trains in europe is the Talgo 250. why(That operates on Alvia and Euromed services) (The 730 series Bi mode onlly operates on Alvia services)
Sounds (The acelation sounds are amezing)
versatility ( It can change voltage and gauge) (the renfe 730 its a bi mode version of the Talgo 250)
Looks (It look likes a litle duck)
Rigth now these train are geting a interior refubement wich looks much better than it previus hospital loking interior.
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-chring13
When Avelia Liberty comes onboard early next year, wait did I say that they aren't being introduced until next year instead of late this year? Yes, I did. That will be America's first true high-speed rail according to international standards rather than US standards. But, later this month, Brightline will start selling Orlando-Miami tickets in preparation for Orlando to Miami beginning around the July 4th timeframe.
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When Avelia Liberty comes onboard early next year, wait did I say that they aren't being introduced until next year instead of late this year? Yes, I did. That will be America's first true high-speed rail according to international standards rather than US standards. But, later this month, Brightline will start selling Orlando-Miami tickets in preparation for Orlando to Miami beginning around the July 4th timeframe.
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-pepumarius2006
I like (sad cry tbh) how Romania and all other eastern european countries are white. No decent railway infastructure AT ALL! How will Europe convince those people to give up air travel when, for example, in Romania you spend more than 12 hours on train ride from Timisoara-Bucharest (about 700km)? HOW? Unless by brute force (cancel all flights or make them very expensive, I see no light at the end of the tunnel
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I like (sad cry tbh) how Romania and all other eastern european countries are white. No decent railway infastructure AT ALL! How will Europe convince those people to give up air travel when, for example, in Romania you spend more than 12 hours on train ride from Timisoara-Bucharest (about 700km)? HOW? Unless by brute force (cancel all flights or make them very expensive, I see no light at the end of the tunnel
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-P0w2you
Anyone will to help? I'm trying to get from Paris to Kaiserslautern, Germany. I'm trying to ride on an French TGV and all the website gives me is the ICE options, and I've been on the ICE before so I wanna try a SNCF. is there another city I could go through to take a TGV, and then take a ICE to Kaiserslautern?
or any one know if the ICE runs at the same operational speed as the TGV along this route?
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Anyone will to help? I'm trying to get from Paris to Kaiserslautern, Germany. I'm trying to ride on an French TGV and all the website gives me is the ICE options, and I've been on the ICE before so I wanna try a SNCF. is there another city I could go through to take a TGV, and then take a ICE to Kaiserslautern?
or any one know if the ICE runs at the same operational speed as the TGV along this route?
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-olli2591
Actually, most ICE trains do not have a top speed of 280 km/h. The over 100 ICE 4 can only go up to 250 km/h or 265 km/h with updated software. The 70 ICE T can only reach 230 km/h. ICE 3, 3 neo and Velaro D can go up to 330/320 km/h, they consist of about 100 trains (growing. Only the remaining minority (about 100) of the fleet, ICE 1 and ICE 2, have a top speed of 280 km/h.
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Actually, most ICE trains do not have a top speed of 280 km/h. The over 100 ICE 4 can only go up to 250 km/h or 265 km/h with updated software. The 70 ICE T can only reach 230 km/h. ICE 3, 3 neo and Velaro D can go up to 330/320 km/h, they consist of about 100 trains (growing. Only the remaining minority (about 100) of the fleet, ICE 1 and ICE 2, have a top speed of 280 km/h.
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-alfrredd
Later this year Renfe will start operations (both Ave and Avlo) on the brand new Northern line to Asturias (and Galicia) with the also brand new Talgo Avril, Certified up to 360km/h, but only 300 in operation (by law) and the ability to change automatically between International and Iberian Gauge. Can't wait for you to try it and discover the beauty of Northern Spain. -
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Later this year Renfe will start operations (both Ave and Avlo) on the brand new Northern line to Asturias (and Galicia) with the also brand new Talgo Avril, Certified up to 360km/h, but only 300 in operation (by law) and the ability to change automatically between International and Iberian Gauge. Can't wait for you to try it and discover the beauty of Northern Spain. -
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-rezaalan3991
Great video. Definitely agree with all of your mention in this video. In my opinion, my favourite TGV when the train using blue livery, no matter it's Single or double decker. My favourite ICE is ICE3, especially when it can reach optimum speed. Sadly no Thalys in this video (I don't know it's counted as TGV or it's actually counted as Eurostar since merged.
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Great video. Definitely agree with all of your mention in this video. In my opinion, my favourite TGV when the train using blue livery, no matter it's Single or double decker. My favourite ICE is ICE3, especially when it can reach optimum speed. Sadly no Thalys in this video (I don't know it's counted as TGV or it's actually counted as Eurostar since merged.
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-special5513
16: 11 We need as more overtaking tracks then four track line. Why, because overtacking tracks are cheaper then four track constellation and if you put high speed switches then they are more efficient, because slower trains, who have to let faster trains overtacking. They can let them pass easier then normal switches. I would recommend it.
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16: 11 We need as more overtaking tracks then four track line. Why, because overtacking tracks are cheaper then four track constellation and if you put high speed switches then they are more efficient, because slower trains, who have to let faster trains overtacking. They can let them pass easier then normal switches. I would recommend it.
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-timnewman1172
Thanks Thibault! I think the ability of European rail companies to focus on operating trains instead of building & maintaining rights-of-way allows them to be much more competitive with other forms of transportation. unlike in the U. S. where Amtrak has to beg & plead the frieght lines to -allow- them to use their tracks!
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Thanks Thibault! I think the ability of European rail companies to focus on operating trains instead of building & maintaining rights-of-way allows them to be much more competitive with other forms of transportation. unlike in the U. S. where Amtrak has to beg & plead the frieght lines to -allow- them to use their tracks!
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train
About the intro, I would say that SNCF was not the one that showed the world that high speed train could compete with airplanes in the world but rather Japanese railway industry. I mean they were the first at the Tokyo Osaka shinkansen competing against the airplains 17 years before and the French were inspired by this
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About the intro, I would say that SNCF was not the one that showed the world that high speed train could compete with airplanes in the world but rather Japanese railway industry. I mean they were the first at the Tokyo Osaka shinkansen competing against the airplains 17 years before and the French were inspired by this
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-TohaBgood2
How come none of these HSR systems have level boarding? Is this normal in Europe? I thought that I just got unlucky with the stations that I saw always not having level boarding. I thought that these were just older or crappier stations, but it looks like this is completely pervasive in Europe.
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How come none of these HSR systems have level boarding? Is this normal in Europe? I thought that I just got unlucky with the stations that I saw always not having level boarding. I thought that these were just older or crappier stations, but it looks like this is completely pervasive in Europe.
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-andrewseo1891
Having ridden both the ICE3, the TGV Duplex, and the KTX, I have to agree with Simply Railway that the ICE are better in terms of wider carriages, less crowding at the doors, and better food onboard. Haven-t ridden the Italian trains yet, but hopefully will get the chance.
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Having ridden both the ICE3, the TGV Duplex, and the KTX, I have to agree with Simply Railway that the ICE are better in terms of wider carriages, less crowding at the doors, and better food onboard. Haven-t ridden the Italian trains yet, but hopefully will get the chance.
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-ivanstoev9357
With all due respect I had to quit the video at 5minutes in you have speech impairment you should work on this is torture you cannot be a narrator, please go work on it, I watch many european creators with an accent this is next level bad
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With all due respect I had to quit the video at 5minutes in you have speech impairment you should work on this is torture you cannot be a narrator, please go work on it, I watch many european creators with an accent this is next level bad
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-user-jj1uy5qg6n
I do not know how you can sleep om a train I am keyed up I am very much afraid that I am going to miss something One thing that I hate is a bathroom with a shower all in one to save space If you must leave the shower out altogether
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I do not know how you can sleep om a train I am keyed up I am very much afraid that I am going to miss something One thing that I hate is a bathroom with a shower all in one to save space If you must leave the shower out altogether
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-Frahamen
Just never take the last Eurostar of the day. You'll get all the delays of the day all stacked up and when you finally arrive in your destination, the last train of the day that could bring you too your final destination is long gone.
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Just never take the last Eurostar of the day. You'll get all the delays of the day all stacked up and when you finally arrive in your destination, the last train of the day that could bring you too your final destination is long gone.
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train
I live in sweden and love X2000 train, the train goes in 200 km/t so it can't be on your list, but actually the X2000 has going on a record speed of 276 km/t but only a test so technically so can X2000 be on your list.
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I live in sweden and love X2000 train, the train goes in 200 km/t so it can't be on your list, but actually the X2000 has going on a record speed of 276 km/t but only a test so technically so can X2000 be on your list.
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-simonsv9449
You should review the Shinkansen. It was the first High -Speed Rail system in the world (You could say the mother of High Speed Trains) and in my opinion, it-s worth a trip report.
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You should review the Shinkansen. It was the first High -Speed Rail system in the world (You could say the mother of High Speed Trains) and in my opinion, it-s worth a trip report.
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-jimpern
Very good review; now I just have to get to Europe and try these! Unfortunately the fastest trains in the U. S. top out at 150 mph, so they just miss out based on your criteria.
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Very good review; now I just have to get to Europe and try these! Unfortunately the fastest trains in the U. S. top out at 150 mph, so they just miss out based on your criteria.
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-marcusnavarra8356
Hello from California! We are building an awesome HSR system that will wipe the floor with any European system. Just give us a few hundred years to finish it.
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Hello from California! We are building an awesome HSR system that will wipe the floor with any European system. Just give us a few hundred years to finish it.
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-daanwolters3751
About the eurostar, germanies ice also got permission from britain to run services trough the tunnels 9 years back, but it never happened. Does anyone know why?
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About the eurostar, germanies ice also got permission from britain to run services trough the tunnels 9 years back, but it never happened. Does anyone know why?
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-pm3390
In terms of interior, in my view the best one is the new Thalys seat in first class. The Frecciarossa is a bit shaky on the paris lyon line but runs great in Italy.
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In terms of interior, in my view the best one is the new Thalys seat in first class. The Frecciarossa is a bit shaky on the paris lyon line but runs great in Italy.
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-iamthestig1
That was really interesting. I haven't been on any of them, though. But I would say that I like the executive class on the Frecciarossa 1000.
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That was really interesting. I haven't been on any of them, though. But I would say that I like the executive class on the Frecciarossa 1000.
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-GamePro0012
It's just too bad that I live in the United States, where rail transport is an afterthought. You could say it's. oh dear. a train wreck.
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It's just too bad that I live in the United States, where rail transport is an afterthought. You could say it's. oh dear. a train wreck.
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-mittenpulstaktung
Siemens was also involved in the ICE 1 and 2, and the powercars of the ICE 1 and 2 are somewhat different from a technical POV -
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Siemens was also involved in the ICE 1 and 2, and the powercars of the ICE 1 and 2 are somewhat different from a technical POV -
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-joermnyc
So sad North America can-t invest in high speed rail like Western Europe. Acela is okay, but it-s not high speed at -200kph (-125mph.
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So sad North America can-t invest in high speed rail like Western Europe. Acela is okay, but it-s not high speed at -200kph (-125mph.
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-tombombadil9123
heaviest French accent on the internet: )
but such in depth knowledge of European railways
keep up the good work
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heaviest French accent on the internet: )
but such in depth knowledge of European railways
keep up the good work
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train
I wonder if the driver needs to take a leak if taking the 3 hour ride between Paris and Marseille how does the driver manage that?
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I wonder if the driver needs to take a leak if taking the 3 hour ride between Paris and Marseille how does the driver manage that?
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-mysakus
since You mention it. Leo Express is basicaly an inter-city tram considering their current sets -It's Stadler Flirt after all
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since You mention it. Leo Express is basicaly an inter-city tram considering their current sets -It's Stadler Flirt after all
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-justmeajah
Sure you'll get used to this kind of video! I mean, I can compare your face reveal video to current one, you're growing!
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Sure you'll get used to this kind of video! I mean, I can compare your face reveal video to current one, you're growing!
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-BusTrainsGuy18
The Eurostar Class 373 will always be the best because of the speed and the sound it makes when it passes by.
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The Eurostar Class 373 will always be the best because of the speed and the sound it makes when it passes by.
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