Locke, Berkeley, & Empiricism: Crash Course Philosophy #6
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Date: 2022-04-04
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Abrar
The problem as I see it is that secondary qualities are due to the interaction of primary qualities of two objects. Like what you call taste depends on the chemical composition of the apple and your taste buds and how they interact. I know this is an oversimplification and it's just not the taste buds that determine the different tastes different people might attribute to the same apple but you get my point.
And if secondary qualities are dependent on primary qualities then it doesn't make sense to say that they are not real.
Of course they are not real 'properties' of one object like the apple, but why can't you say it's a 'property' of two or more objects interacting with each other. If it interacts in one way we can it A. If it interacts in a different way we call it B and so on. A and B could be anything like spicy, crunchy, etc. They're just labels on different ways of interaction. And so it seems to me that what are called secondary qualities in this video are just as real.
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The problem as I see it is that secondary qualities are due to the interaction of primary qualities of two objects. Like what you call taste depends on the chemical composition of the apple and your taste buds and how they interact. I know this is an oversimplification and it's just not the taste buds that determine the different tastes different people might attribute to the same apple but you get my point.
And if secondary qualities are dependent on primary qualities then it doesn't make sense to say that they are not real.
Of course they are not real 'properties' of one object like the apple, but why can't you say it's a 'property' of two or more objects interacting with each other. If it interacts in one way we can it A. If it interacts in a different way we call it B and so on. A and B could be anything like spicy, crunchy, etc. They're just labels on different ways of interaction. And so it seems to me that what are called secondary qualities in this video are just as real.
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histime
here is a counter argument to perception theory.
Thought experiment: we have 2 observers a and b both observing an apple(or so) but they have different perceptions. why does that happen? either due to a property in the apple or a difference in their perception mechanisms which means there is a quality that is different a primary quality I'd say. else there should be no different perceptions which means all qualities are primary anyway.
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here is a counter argument to perception theory.
Thought experiment: we have 2 observers a and b both observing an apple(or so) but they have different perceptions. why does that happen? either due to a property in the apple or a difference in their perception mechanisms which means there is a quality that is different a primary quality I'd say. else there should be no different perceptions which means all qualities are primary anyway.
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Ricardo
The argument that we can't know if anything is real disregards the evolution of the senses through natural selection. If our senses have allowed us to survive as a species for this long, then they must accurately represent the world to a certain degree. The things we cannot perceive are those that pose little to no threat to us, or at least not as commonly. Like individual bacteria, infrared and ultraviolet light, radiation, etc.
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The argument that we can't know if anything is real disregards the evolution of the senses through natural selection. If our senses have allowed us to survive as a species for this long, then they must accurately represent the world to a certain degree. The things we cannot perceive are those that pose little to no threat to us, or at least not as commonly. Like individual bacteria, infrared and ultraviolet light, radiation, etc.
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Thas
Really, perceiving is just interactions. No matter how hard you try not NOT be perceived, you are still perceived by the air hitting you, by the charge building up in your nerves, by the change of shape of space-time as the earth moves. There is no way to not be perceived except before the big bang (or any other explanation of creation, which is when there is no you, or any self at all.
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Really, perceiving is just interactions. No matter how hard you try not NOT be perceived, you are still perceived by the air hitting you, by the charge building up in your nerves, by the change of shape of space-time as the earth moves. There is no way to not be perceived except before the big bang (or any other explanation of creation, which is when there is no you, or any self at all.
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H.
The video stops before presenting Berkeley's argument on how he came to accept the existence of God. Everything exists through perception. God is the ultimate perceiver which is what maintains all things into existence. OK, for someone who has to perceive in order to -believe-, how did Berkeley perceive God.
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The video stops before presenting Berkeley's argument on how he came to accept the existence of God. Everything exists through perception. God is the ultimate perceiver which is what maintains all things into existence. OK, for someone who has to perceive in order to -believe-, how did Berkeley perceive God.
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education
Question: If Madonna sings in the shower and there's no one to hear it, does her voice make a sound?
- Cause we are living in an immaterial world - and I'm an immaterial girl -
Answer: If there's no one to hear it, there's no Madonna to be singing.
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Question: If Madonna sings in the shower and there's no one to hear it, does her voice make a sound?
- Cause we are living in an immaterial world - and I'm an immaterial girl -
Answer: If there's no one to hear it, there's no Madonna to be singing.
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Chris
Sad to hear you don't dream when you sleep.
My perceptions are better than Earth, thank God.
I can't wait for this body to die, and stay there.
I have good dreams, so being there forevermore, would be Heaven, not Hell
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Sad to hear you don't dream when you sleep.
My perceptions are better than Earth, thank God.
I can't wait for this body to die, and stay there.
I have good dreams, so being there forevermore, would be Heaven, not Hell
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Beauty
I watched this and a short philosophytube video and got a 90 on my test on Berkeley, the highest I-ve gotten on a test in that class and I failed to get through even one of his video lectures. Thanks: )
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I watched this and a short philosophytube video and got a 90 on my test on Berkeley, the highest I-ve gotten on a test in that class and I failed to get through even one of his video lectures. Thanks: )
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Liam
One thing that is not considered in this video in terms of percieving the apple is those who are colour blind. Those who cannot see the colour of the apple can still see the apple.
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One thing that is not considered in this video in terms of percieving the apple is those who are colour blind. Those who cannot see the colour of the apple can still see the apple.
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Rebecca
I'm not an expert, but talking about Berkeley's -to be is to be perceived- really made me think of Sartre's -hell is other people- and the Other
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I'm not an expert, but talking about Berkeley's -to be is to be perceived- really made me think of Sartre's -hell is other people- and the Other
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