Mythical Mountains: Crash Course World Mythology #33
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Date: 2022-04-04
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waffle2434
-Minor Correction/Clarification: - 6: 40 Shintoism itself is not the pre-animistic religion that existed before Heian Era Japan (6th century, but a combination of these animistic elements mixed with Buddhist ideas that were imported during this period. So while yes many of the traditions within Shintoism have their roots in the practices of this animistic religion, it is not that religion. This early religion does not have an official English name, since it was completely absorbed by Shintoism, in fact, in some books this -pre-Shintoism- is just portrayed as an earlier version of Shintoism itself, but this idea completely minimizes the enormous influence Chinese culture and ideas had on Japanese ideas and concepts during the Heian period.
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This influence is seen throughout many things that are considered Japanese, like the entire Japanese written language which is a direct result of Chinese influence on Japan, with Kanji being a direct importation of the Chinese writing system, with Hiragana and Katakana being simplified versions of those characters which were made by Buddhist monks, another thing imported from China. I bring this up just to illustrate the complex relationship between Chinese and Japanese culture during this period, showing how many aspects of Japanese culture were completely defined or reimagined during this period.
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I understand why Crash Course cut this explanation from the video because if not done fully it may imply to viewers who are unfamiliar with this topic that this pre-existing animistic religion was somehow primitive compared to Shintoism, which is simply not the case, it was just a different religion that was then absorbed by Shintoism, a similar thing happened in India when Buddhism was absorbed into Hinduism. So I am not mad with Crash Course, I just wanted to give this explanation here in case some of you are interested.
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-Minor Correction/Clarification: - 6: 40 Shintoism itself is not the pre-animistic religion that existed before Heian Era Japan (6th century, but a combination of these animistic elements mixed with Buddhist ideas that were imported during this period. So while yes many of the traditions within Shintoism have their roots in the practices of this animistic religion, it is not that religion. This early religion does not have an official English name, since it was completely absorbed by Shintoism, in fact, in some books this -pre-Shintoism- is just portrayed as an earlier version of Shintoism itself, but this idea completely minimizes the enormous influence Chinese culture and ideas had on Japanese ideas and concepts during the Heian period.
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This influence is seen throughout many things that are considered Japanese, like the entire Japanese written language which is a direct result of Chinese influence on Japan, with Kanji being a direct importation of the Chinese writing system, with Hiragana and Katakana being simplified versions of those characters which were made by Buddhist monks, another thing imported from China. I bring this up just to illustrate the complex relationship between Chinese and Japanese culture during this period, showing how many aspects of Japanese culture were completely defined or reimagined during this period.
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I understand why Crash Course cut this explanation from the video because if not done fully it may imply to viewers who are unfamiliar with this topic that this pre-existing animistic religion was somehow primitive compared to Shintoism, which is simply not the case, it was just a different religion that was then absorbed by Shintoism, a similar thing happened in India when Buddhism was absorbed into Hinduism. So I am not mad with Crash Course, I just wanted to give this explanation here in case some of you are interested.
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Hapera
in maori mythology, the four peaks at the centre of the north island (Tongariro, Ngauruhoe, Ruapehu, and Taranaki, originally lived in harmony and peace. that is until a fair, beautiful mountain called Pihanga arrived from the north. The mountains all immediately fell for her, and a war broke out, where every mountain fought for the right to sleep next to Pihanga. In the end, Ngauruhoe won, and the mountains split up, with Ngauruhoe being able to cuddle up next to Pihanga, Tongariro to the immediate south of him, then at the furthest point south, stood Ruapehu. Taranaki, who truly loved Pihanga, chose to flee as far as he could from the mountains he once called brothers. He eventually came to rest at the far west coast of the north island, and his journey was marked by a series of deep valleys and rivers. In his shame, he cloaked himself in cloud, and chose never to look upon his brothers or Pihanga ever again.
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in maori mythology, the four peaks at the centre of the north island (Tongariro, Ngauruhoe, Ruapehu, and Taranaki, originally lived in harmony and peace. that is until a fair, beautiful mountain called Pihanga arrived from the north. The mountains all immediately fell for her, and a war broke out, where every mountain fought for the right to sleep next to Pihanga. In the end, Ngauruhoe won, and the mountains split up, with Ngauruhoe being able to cuddle up next to Pihanga, Tongariro to the immediate south of him, then at the furthest point south, stood Ruapehu. Taranaki, who truly loved Pihanga, chose to flee as far as he could from the mountains he once called brothers. He eventually came to rest at the far west coast of the north island, and his journey was marked by a series of deep valleys and rivers. In his shame, he cloaked himself in cloud, and chose never to look upon his brothers or Pihanga ever again.
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Raisa
this reminded me of a myth here in the philippines about a deity living in Mt. Makiling named Maria Makiling who was known to be beautiful and kind that would always help the people. The people would usually thank her. Until one time she fell in love with a mortal man who was a hunter but that man already have a mortal wife. Due to her anger she refuses to help the people. Some say it may also be due to the fact that the people abused her kindness. But it is still believed that she still lives in the mountain up to this day.
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this reminded me of a myth here in the philippines about a deity living in Mt. Makiling named Maria Makiling who was known to be beautiful and kind that would always help the people. The people would usually thank her. Until one time she fell in love with a mortal man who was a hunter but that man already have a mortal wife. Due to her anger she refuses to help the people. Some say it may also be due to the fact that the people abused her kindness. But it is still believed that she still lives in the mountain up to this day.
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Daniela
But if the king was trapped in a mountain filled with this treasure, he could just pick one piece of it and make food with it, since they all seem to make food. Maybe another gives water too. So maybe he could live in the mountain.
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But if the king was trapped in a mountain filled with this treasure, he could just pick one piece of it and make food with it, since they all seem to make food. Maybe another gives water too. So maybe he could live in the mountain.
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Isabella
I wonder whether it is possible to put original Chinese and Japanese words on the screen as English pronunciations of some words are very different with them originally in Chinese and Japanese, challenging to understand.
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I wonder whether it is possible to put original Chinese and Japanese words on the screen as English pronunciations of some words are very different with them originally in Chinese and Japanese, challenging to understand.
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Janey
I've been binging on hungarian folk tales and the chinese myth sounds so much like the one about the magic stone mill. A mill also gifted to a poor man for a good deed, the mill produced money though.
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I've been binging on hungarian folk tales and the chinese myth sounds so much like the one about the magic stone mill. A mill also gifted to a poor man for a good deed, the mill produced money though.
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Daphna
The fighting mountains is similar to the story about a few glorious mountains fighting over who will god deliver upon the tablets and God chose mount Sinai which was the most humble
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The fighting mountains is similar to the story about a few glorious mountains fighting over who will god deliver upon the tablets and God chose mount Sinai which was the most humble
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Kun
I've never heard any stories or legend about the Ten Thousand Treasure Mountain nor can I search any source material on Google. Where did this story came from?
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I've never heard any stories or legend about the Ten Thousand Treasure Mountain nor can I search any source material on Google. Where did this story came from?
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FY
emmm, interesting. as a Chinese, I have never heard of this myth and couldn't find anything about this myth, BTW, KO-JI doesn't sound like Chinese.
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emmm, interesting. as a Chinese, I have never heard of this myth and couldn't find anything about this myth, BTW, KO-JI doesn't sound like Chinese.
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Chubby
A Chinese Myth about a greedy King.
I think you the people who tell this tale is going to lose their head for telling a tale like this
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A Chinese Myth about a greedy King.
I think you the people who tell this tale is going to lose their head for telling a tale like this
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