How did the Dutch create a colonial empire?
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Dutch, Netherlands, Holland, Flanders, Flemish, Belgium, Low Countries, New Holland, New Netherlands, Dutch East Indies, Dutch East India Company
do they have an eternal identity crisis or obsession with confusing the world by constantly changing their names and borders?
history classes in school always talk about Dutch, Holland, and sometimes in regards to the industrial revolution banking and textile industries Flemish and Flanders and about how Holland and Belgium and the Dutch were rivals to England/Britain, and that vast debts were owed and seemingly never paid fully to them from England/Britain.
also apparently William of Orange or William and Anne or something were from there and were invited to take over England/Britain, but somehow despite being leaders of both countries and all the debts it didnt result in England/Britain being Annexed/merged or having Orange as their new colors/flag or anything?
i never heard of the Netherlands til i was middle school or high school age wondering how a new country joined the world and competing in the olympics all of a sudden without it ever being taught in schools or announced on the news or anything.
still to this day not fully sure if the Dutch refers to Belgium or Flanders/Flemish or Holland or some other now non-existent country or if its all or partially been usurped and replaced by the Netherlands place or just what in the world is actually going on over there.
also it always talks about that area being rich and powerful but it seems a weak buffer state between france germany and england that gets caught in the middle all the time and can never defend itself. which makes no sense
why cant they just have protection from england or order england to stop invading them since they should be able to control england through the royals or have some influence sway or say you would think? and they apparently share culture and deep ties with germany so why did germany keep invading through those territories to get at france when france shares a direct border and they should have just invaded france directly you would have thought? for that matter france is a germanic country formed by the germanic tribe called the franks and their leaders set up the holy roman empire that later became germany and was supposed to be the replacement for rome and was supposed to rule over both france and italy overrulling their leaders/monarchs as the emperors of europe post rome fall preserving what was left of the existing roman government/rule, plus germania was allegedly never conquered by rome so they possibly had more legitimacy then rome itself ever did arguably.
so why are there so many wars. it just makes no sense why people who should all be part of the same group/country end up claiming to be seperate nations and fighting.\r\n
Date: 2023-12-16
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knowledgia
I was told few times by some Dutch persons, that the Polish people in Netherlands are known to still bikes and pocket money from people. -
I answered the dutch guy: -
- So the man that's a refugee in your country from USSR communism possibly in some difficulties or simply he did not had the chance of a normal life so he started stilling (or may be even an evel person who do this just for himself ) stolen your bike. But what about the dutch who enslaved people, plundering so many contries on this earth for centuries? How would we ( or the Polish ) should name the Dutch country. They ( UK, Dutch, French, Spanish. ) not only plundered or sold slaves but actually wipe out complete civilisations ( Aztecs, Formosa island, .. -
But now they are civilized countries and teach us how to behave. -
Their today wealth was build on people's sholders from countries they ocupied but they now blame these people for stilling them 100$ from their pocket.
Sad, sad, sad!
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I was told few times by some Dutch persons, that the Polish people in Netherlands are known to still bikes and pocket money from people. -
I answered the dutch guy: -
- So the man that's a refugee in your country from USSR communism possibly in some difficulties or simply he did not had the chance of a normal life so he started stilling (or may be even an evel person who do this just for himself ) stolen your bike. But what about the dutch who enslaved people, plundering so many contries on this earth for centuries? How would we ( or the Polish ) should name the Dutch country. They ( UK, Dutch, French, Spanish. ) not only plundered or sold slaves but actually wipe out complete civilisations ( Aztecs, Formosa island, .. -
But now they are civilized countries and teach us how to behave. -
Their today wealth was build on people's sholders from countries they ocupied but they now blame these people for stilling them 100$ from their pocket.
Sad, sad, sad!
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-draphotube4315
The lack of more territorial conquest and colonies was not because the Netherlands was small. That's a big mistake in the video. It was rather because of no political will to do so. We only conquered territories for economic gains, never to settle or to have large swathes of land. We had more then enough people to settle most colonies we made, yet our colonies tended to be ruled by companies which didn't wish to pay for the voyage of said people. And we also worked with plutocracies, merchant class ruled, they didn't wish for more white people in the colonies to function as competition (unless it were farmers) and they had slavery to upset that disbalance. All in all, the Dutch could have had Australia as a New Holland, New Zealand could have been a strong colony, same for South Africa, but unlike the Brittish there was just never the political will to just conquer for the sake of influence alone.
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The lack of more territorial conquest and colonies was not because the Netherlands was small. That's a big mistake in the video. It was rather because of no political will to do so. We only conquered territories for economic gains, never to settle or to have large swathes of land. We had more then enough people to settle most colonies we made, yet our colonies tended to be ruled by companies which didn't wish to pay for the voyage of said people. And we also worked with plutocracies, merchant class ruled, they didn't wish for more white people in the colonies to function as competition (unless it were farmers) and they had slavery to upset that disbalance. All in all, the Dutch could have had Australia as a New Holland, New Zealand could have been a strong colony, same for South Africa, but unlike the Brittish there was just never the political will to just conquer for the sake of influence alone.
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-z. t. 8950
Great video, but you left out my country Ghana (colonial name: Gold Coast) in West Africa. The Dutch seized it from the Portuguese and British eventually took it from the Dutch, through Anglo-Dutch Treaties of 1870-71, but not before the Dutch had left their imprint.
The capital, Accra, was split into Dutchh Accra, British Accra, and Danish Accra. There was also Dutch Komenda to the west.
Dutch products like Schnapps remain popular in Ghana today. (People prefer the original to the local version. They also introduced Java cloths (from Indonesia, I presume, which continue to command premium prices because of their quality, although I don't believe they come from Java anymore.
And, oh, yes, they made plenty of babies along the coast. Hence, names like Vanderpuige, Ulzen, de Veer, de Bordes, and Van Hien in Ghana today.
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Great video, but you left out my country Ghana (colonial name: Gold Coast) in West Africa. The Dutch seized it from the Portuguese and British eventually took it from the Dutch, through Anglo-Dutch Treaties of 1870-71, but not before the Dutch had left their imprint.
The capital, Accra, was split into Dutchh Accra, British Accra, and Danish Accra. There was also Dutch Komenda to the west.
Dutch products like Schnapps remain popular in Ghana today. (People prefer the original to the local version. They also introduced Java cloths (from Indonesia, I presume, which continue to command premium prices because of their quality, although I don't believe they come from Java anymore.
And, oh, yes, they made plenty of babies along the coast. Hence, names like Vanderpuige, Ulzen, de Veer, de Bordes, and Van Hien in Ghana today.
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-luisaymerich9675
It seems that the Dutch enterprise to secure an empire was a wasted effort.
In their attempt to invade and wrest the colonies of other countries they took on all the colonizing powers and spread their naval and military resources too thin to be effective.
Their attacks on Spanish Puerto Rico, French Martinique, and British Virginia ended up being more like raids by pirates than invasions by an imperial power.
The results of these raids were ruinous in the loss of Dutch lives and materiel.
Perhaps they could have achieved more if they focused on one objective and had secured an alliance with say France against only one of the other powers like Spain or Portugal.
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It seems that the Dutch enterprise to secure an empire was a wasted effort.
In their attempt to invade and wrest the colonies of other countries they took on all the colonizing powers and spread their naval and military resources too thin to be effective.
Their attacks on Spanish Puerto Rico, French Martinique, and British Virginia ended up being more like raids by pirates than invasions by an imperial power.
The results of these raids were ruinous in the loss of Dutch lives and materiel.
Perhaps they could have achieved more if they focused on one objective and had secured an alliance with say France against only one of the other powers like Spain or Portugal.
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knowledgia
1: 56 good grief!
hundred years war
thirty years war
now apparently an eighty years war.
then they thought both world wars would be over in 6 months but yet the first one was like 4 years or more and the 2nd one only like 20 years later and arguably just an extension of the first after a long lull/truce was 4 years for the us but at least 6-7 years for the europeans and longer then that if you count it as starting when japan invaded manchuria/china in the 30s.
i will never understand europe's seeming love affair with constant wars and conflicts and creating new ones else where in the world when they arent currently having any themselves.
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1: 56 good grief!
hundred years war
thirty years war
now apparently an eighty years war.
then they thought both world wars would be over in 6 months but yet the first one was like 4 years or more and the 2nd one only like 20 years later and arguably just an extension of the first after a long lull/truce was 4 years for the us but at least 6-7 years for the europeans and longer then that if you count it as starting when japan invaded manchuria/china in the 30s.
i will never understand europe's seeming love affair with constant wars and conflicts and creating new ones else where in the world when they arent currently having any themselves.
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-ET_LWO
Maybe Portugal & the Dutch were given coordinates to different places, seems like it to me.
Did Portugal resent their gift?
Did they want the gift that the Dutch got?
This Intel wouldn-t have been a gift, but, rather, more of a responsibility.
Disease ravages over-crowded urban life, as it was known (and still is, I suppose.
We-re all supposed to be able to find a way to have everyone expect their kids to become adults.
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Maybe Portugal & the Dutch were given coordinates to different places, seems like it to me.
Did Portugal resent their gift?
Did they want the gift that the Dutch got?
This Intel wouldn-t have been a gift, but, rather, more of a responsibility.
Disease ravages over-crowded urban life, as it was known (and still is, I suppose.
We-re all supposed to be able to find a way to have everyone expect their kids to become adults.
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knowledgia
0: 33 um. the republic from 1500s til 1795 and a monarchy from 1850s to present? isn't that backwards, doesnt a republic only form usually after a monarch is deposed when there is a scramble to figure out some other form of government in a hurry after having only known monarchy or despotism or something? and why the gap of over half a century? did it get erased like poland keeps getting erased off maps and put back again or something?
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0: 33 um. the republic from 1500s til 1795 and a monarchy from 1850s to present? isn't that backwards, doesnt a republic only form usually after a monarch is deposed when there is a scramble to figure out some other form of government in a hurry after having only known monarchy or despotism or something? and why the gap of over half a century? did it get erased like poland keeps getting erased off maps and put back again or something?
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-JosM-ds4fd
My great - great- great- great- great- great etc. etc. grandfather who lived in the year 46 a. d. killed an other man. SORRY, i apologize!
This feels so wrong to me, why should i apologize for something i did not do.
I do think we should learn about things and try to make the world a better place for everybody. When everybody has to say sorry for the wrong their ancestors did the world would stop.
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My great - great- great- great- great- great etc. etc. grandfather who lived in the year 46 a. d. killed an other man. SORRY, i apologize!
This feels so wrong to me, why should i apologize for something i did not do.
I do think we should learn about things and try to make the world a better place for everybody. When everybody has to say sorry for the wrong their ancestors did the world would stop.
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knowledgia
what a liar! The Dutch were nothing more than pirates who looted, enslaved and discriminated wherever they went. His main legacy: South African apartheid, the killing of Indonesians and the backwardness of Suriname and Curazao. The Dutch only wanted money and for this they did not mind cheating, robbing and killing anyone. That is the Dutch school.
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what a liar! The Dutch were nothing more than pirates who looted, enslaved and discriminated wherever they went. His main legacy: South African apartheid, the killing of Indonesians and the backwardness of Suriname and Curazao. The Dutch only wanted money and for this they did not mind cheating, robbing and killing anyone. That is the Dutch school.
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-axelwalter4046
Indonesia was a Dutch colony from 1816 till 1945 (in reality 1949, not from 1880 to 1940. The governor of Dutch Brazil was Johan Maurits, not Johann Moritz.
New Amsterdam was established 1624, not 1625, and how can you not mention Suriname (since 1667 in Dutch hands) or other territories in that area?
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Indonesia was a Dutch colony from 1816 till 1945 (in reality 1949, not from 1880 to 1940. The governor of Dutch Brazil was Johan Maurits, not Johann Moritz.
New Amsterdam was established 1624, not 1625, and how can you not mention Suriname (since 1667 in Dutch hands) or other territories in that area?
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-EmilZ-wb5kr
Any history buff care to tell me (or point me to a YT video) of why the Dutch were among the worst conquerors? Like I hear people saying, -if some country HAD to conquer/colonize you, let it be like the British. you do NOT want the Dutch, they were worse than Spaniards-
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Any history buff care to tell me (or point me to a YT video) of why the Dutch were among the worst conquerors? Like I hear people saying, -if some country HAD to conquer/colonize you, let it be like the British. you do NOT want the Dutch, they were worse than Spaniards-
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-marsz7896
350 years of Dutch colonialism in Indonesia bequeathed acute corruption, collusion and nepotism to the indigenous people, unlike the British colonial rule that left honest work to the people, as a result, the Dutch colony collapsed.
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350 years of Dutch colonialism in Indonesia bequeathed acute corruption, collusion and nepotism to the indigenous people, unlike the British colonial rule that left honest work to the people, as a result, the Dutch colony collapsed.
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-ea4935
The cruise boat hit on some passes by. We all were dropped on the wall side till it all was solved.
Kinda butter at the fish.
Afther that the meat got a bit well done serve.
Atleast for me it was tasty enough.
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The cruise boat hit on some passes by. We all were dropped on the wall side till it all was solved.
Kinda butter at the fish.
Afther that the meat got a bit well done serve.
Atleast for me it was tasty enough.
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-rrhutajulu5445
In the begining the voc paid tribute to mataram sultanate after 2 masive strike conducted by the sultanate. though it wasnt sucesfully. to eliminate the voc but it did make them unable to operate accordingly.
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In the begining the voc paid tribute to mataram sultanate after 2 masive strike conducted by the sultanate. though it wasnt sucesfully. to eliminate the voc but it did make them unable to operate accordingly.
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-gevoel8293
The Dutch, like the French and the English still have colonies in 2022. The colonialisation hasn't stop they now just call them overseas territories of their countries. Very much hypocrites, the lot of them.
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The Dutch, like the French and the English still have colonies in 2022. The colonialisation hasn't stop they now just call them overseas territories of their countries. Very much hypocrites, the lot of them.
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-bucek2247
Belanda menguasai Indonesia dengan cara menyuap para raja dan menjalankan politik devide et impera. Sampai datangnya kesadaran orang Indonesia bersatu melawan belanda
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Belanda menguasai Indonesia dengan cara menyuap para raja dan menjalankan politik devide et impera. Sampai datangnya kesadaran orang Indonesia bersatu melawan belanda
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knowledgia
5: 50 We never lost New Amsterdam, we gave it to the English in a trade where we received Suriname. This deal mostly happened because we won the 2nd Dutch-Anglo war.
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5: 50 We never lost New Amsterdam, we gave it to the English in a trade where we received Suriname. This deal mostly happened because we won the 2nd Dutch-Anglo war.
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-uncd2025
1: 05 you mention the Dutch historians lack of use of -imperialism. - Are there any key historiographic works on this topic? Would love to compare to the US example
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1: 05 you mention the Dutch historians lack of use of -imperialism. - Are there any key historiographic works on this topic? Would love to compare to the US example
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-Hugo_Contente
I live in Belem, Brazil. a city that was Domained by the Dutch empire in the 17th century. because of the Invasion that I have dutch ancestry.
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I live in Belem, Brazil. a city that was Domained by the Dutch empire in the 17th century. because of the Invasion that I have dutch ancestry.
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-Grombrindal
By being superior merchants, sailors and diplomats. The Dutch are basically Sea Germans and they have the same innate desire for excellence.
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By being superior merchants, sailors and diplomats. The Dutch are basically Sea Germans and they have the same innate desire for excellence.
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-mysteriousDSF
Crazy how the dutch was the least evil out of all colonial powers, while their neighbors the Belgian were the absolute worst devils
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Crazy how the dutch was the least evil out of all colonial powers, while their neighbors the Belgian were the absolute worst devils
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knowledgia
Whoever this narrator is-do you purposefully mispronounce words? You have to be trying to mispronounce them, right? Every video-
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Whoever this narrator is-do you purposefully mispronounce words? You have to be trying to mispronounce them, right? Every video-
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-alwellus
They were a sea faring nation that involved itself in mercantilism and exploration. That is how all empires of Europe developed.
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They were a sea faring nation that involved itself in mercantilism and exploration. That is how all empires of Europe developed.
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-u0455294
I always think it-s funny how countries will fight so hard for independence, and then immediately go colonize other people.
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I always think it-s funny how countries will fight so hard for independence, and then immediately go colonize other people.
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knowledgia
Great video brother, just one small correction, the Xhosa were the ones who broke the agreement with the Boers
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Great video brother, just one small correction, the Xhosa were the ones who broke the agreement with the Boers
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-ET_LWO
Was that a mercenary/proxy
-war where the -holy Roman Empire- wouldn-t have to dirty their hands? 1: 52
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Was that a mercenary/proxy
-war where the -holy Roman Empire- wouldn-t have to dirty their hands? 1: 52
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-Lusandro
So the Dutch were unoriginal, lazy copycats. Took credit for Portuguese discoveries like 150 years later.
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So the Dutch were unoriginal, lazy copycats. Took credit for Portuguese discoveries like 150 years later.
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