History vs. Augustus - Peta Greenfield & Alex Gendler
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Date: 2020-08-22
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Brian
Not saying Augustus wasn't Rome's first emperor but he was never called that. In his time he was only ever considered Rome's First Citizen. During his time the Senate still had quite a bit of authority (at least compared to the Late Roman Empire) and Augustus used most of his power to keep the corruption that had infected the ruling class in check. This is not to say that he was perfect, cause no one is, but Rome would have likely collapsed long before it did if Julius Caesar and Augustus didn't do what they did. We also have to ask all of ourselves, could we have done any better or even remotely as well if we were in Augustus' position?
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Not saying Augustus wasn't Rome's first emperor but he was never called that. In his time he was only ever considered Rome's First Citizen. During his time the Senate still had quite a bit of authority (at least compared to the Late Roman Empire) and Augustus used most of his power to keep the corruption that had infected the ruling class in check. This is not to say that he was perfect, cause no one is, but Rome would have likely collapsed long before it did if Julius Caesar and Augustus didn't do what they did. We also have to ask all of ourselves, could we have done any better or even remotely as well if we were in Augustus' position?
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Me
Julius Caesar was killed in response the amount of power he was gaining. people feared he was becoming a dictator and destroying the republic. More than 60 senators were in on the conspiracy to kill him. Then Octavius comes in and solidifies himself and literal dictator right when Caesar dies, purging all opposition and dismembering the senate. How is that justified? There was no corruption, it was a conspiracy to try and save rome. Although I don't agree with the conspiracy, Octavius destroyed roman politics and created a dictatorship.
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Julius Caesar was killed in response the amount of power he was gaining. people feared he was becoming a dictator and destroying the republic. More than 60 senators were in on the conspiracy to kill him. Then Octavius comes in and solidifies himself and literal dictator right when Caesar dies, purging all opposition and dismembering the senate. How is that justified? There was no corruption, it was a conspiracy to try and save rome. Although I don't agree with the conspiracy, Octavius destroyed roman politics and created a dictatorship.
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He
They didn't mention his distastourious campaign into Germania Magna, which lost 18 000 men. You might say, that it was because Arminius betrayed Quintilius Varus, and yep that's true, but one question what value did Germania Magna have that made a campaign into it worth it(Even if succesful. There were only forest tribes in Germania Magna(the territory between the Rhine and the Elbe, so it would only have been headaches for the Romans.
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They didn't mention his distastourious campaign into Germania Magna, which lost 18 000 men. You might say, that it was because Arminius betrayed Quintilius Varus, and yep that's true, but one question what value did Germania Magna have that made a campaign into it worth it(Even if succesful. There were only forest tribes in Germania Magna(the territory between the Rhine and the Elbe, so it would only have been headaches for the Romans.
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Joshua
Did the prosecutor just use punishing adultery as something against Augustus? Understandably adultery maybe considered private, but the police, private investigators and the courts are brought in all the time by husbands and wives! I wouldnt want their drama tying up my justice system either!
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Did the prosecutor just use punishing adultery as something against Augustus? Understandably adultery maybe considered private, but the police, private investigators and the courts are brought in all the time by husbands and wives! I wouldnt want their drama tying up my justice system either!
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Ford
Augustus wasnt the one who destroyed the political rights of the poorer or working class. He was the one that destroyed the oligarchy with only 10 positions for plebeians out of 900 and allowed multiple emperors come from nothing to only become the emperor such as Diocletian and Justinian
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Augustus wasnt the one who destroyed the political rights of the poorer or working class. He was the one that destroyed the oligarchy with only 10 positions for plebeians out of 900 and allowed multiple emperors come from nothing to only become the emperor such as Diocletian and Justinian
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francesco
Why so many peoples in this comment section would be glad to see a law that punishes adultery in our modern society?
2000 years ago such a law would be understandable, but today such affairs must remain a private problem of the couple.
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Why so many peoples in this comment section would be glad to see a law that punishes adultery in our modern society?
2000 years ago such a law would be understandable, but today such affairs must remain a private problem of the couple.
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Jan
Actualy Augustus didn't abolish the Republic, he merely become a sort of President if we would call it in modern terms. He changed the Republic from senatorial to imperial centered. Imperator was an elected title.
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Actualy Augustus didn't abolish the Republic, he merely become a sort of President if we would call it in modern terms. He changed the Republic from senatorial to imperial centered. Imperator was an elected title.
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mars
Surely there is a term for how great leaders of the past, despite actions that would be condemned back then as well as today are often viewed in high regard and looked upon as ambitious role models
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Surely there is a term for how great leaders of the past, despite actions that would be condemned back then as well as today are often viewed in high regard and looked upon as ambitious role models
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Glencoe
For those who think the Republic was higly corrupted at his end, ask yourself who wrote her history. Those who wanted to save and restor her, or those who betrayed her.
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For those who think the Republic was higly corrupted at his end, ask yourself who wrote her history. Those who wanted to save and restor her, or those who betrayed her.
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Awesome
He was first citizen and went to extensive lengths to never be seen as emperor or a king, he was the Principate of the Roman Republic.
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He was first citizen and went to extensive lengths to never be seen as emperor or a king, he was the Principate of the Roman Republic.
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