MARVEL vs DC: Who Will Ruin Superhero Movies? - Black Nerd Comedy on 's Angry Nerd
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Date: 2022-07-06
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Winter
-Black Nerd Comedy You make a very good point and I have felt the same way. Right now to watch Iron Man 3 and understand what's going on, you need to, at least, watch Iron Man, Iron Man 2, and the Avengers first. To watch Captain America: The Winter Soldier, you need to watch Captain America: The First Avenger, The Avengers, Iron Man 3, and Agents of SHIELD beforehand. The reason Guardians of the Galaxy did so well is because all you really had to see was Guardians of the Galaxy.
It's a lesson I hope DC has learned going into their own cinematic universe. You can do crossovers and such with comics and even TV series. But it doesn't work with movies. It really doesn't I hope with DC all I have to watch to understand Justice League is Man of Steel and Batman v Superman. I should just want to watch all subsequent movies. I shouldn't have to. We're supposed to have fun watching these movies. They can still be fun, but it feels like a chore when I HAVE to watch all Phase One and Phase Two movies as well as Agents of SHIELD before Age of Ultron, Ant-Man, and Civil War. If anything has a serious chance of causing CBM fatigue, it's this for sure.
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-Black Nerd Comedy You make a very good point and I have felt the same way. Right now to watch Iron Man 3 and understand what's going on, you need to, at least, watch Iron Man, Iron Man 2, and the Avengers first. To watch Captain America: The Winter Soldier, you need to watch Captain America: The First Avenger, The Avengers, Iron Man 3, and Agents of SHIELD beforehand. The reason Guardians of the Galaxy did so well is because all you really had to see was Guardians of the Galaxy.
It's a lesson I hope DC has learned going into their own cinematic universe. You can do crossovers and such with comics and even TV series. But it doesn't work with movies. It really doesn't I hope with DC all I have to watch to understand Justice League is Man of Steel and Batman v Superman. I should just want to watch all subsequent movies. I shouldn't have to. We're supposed to have fun watching these movies. They can still be fun, but it feels like a chore when I HAVE to watch all Phase One and Phase Two movies as well as Agents of SHIELD before Age of Ultron, Ant-Man, and Civil War. If anything has a serious chance of causing CBM fatigue, it's this for sure.
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Winter
-Black Nerd Comedy You make a very good point and I have felt the same way. Right now to watch Iron Man 3 and understand what's going on, you need to, at least, watch Iron Man, Iron Man 2, and the Avengers first. To watch Captain America: The Winter Soldier, you need to watch Captain America: The First Avenger, The Avengers, Iron Man 3, and Agents of SHIELD beforehand. The reason Guardians of the Galaxy did so well is because all you really had to see was Guardians of the Galaxy.
It's a lesson I hope DC has learned going into their own cinematic universe. You can do crossovers and such with comics and even TV series. But it doesn't work with movies. It really doesn't I hope with DC all I have to watch to understand Justice League is Man of Steel and Batman v Superman. I should just want to watch all subsequent movies. I shouldn't have to. We're supposed to have fun watching these movies. They can still be fun, but it feels like a chore when I HAVE to watch all Phase One and Phase Two movies as well as Agents of SHIELD before Age of Ultron, Ant-Man, and Civil War.
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-Black Nerd Comedy You make a very good point and I have felt the same way. Right now to watch Iron Man 3 and understand what's going on, you need to, at least, watch Iron Man, Iron Man 2, and the Avengers first. To watch Captain America: The Winter Soldier, you need to watch Captain America: The First Avenger, The Avengers, Iron Man 3, and Agents of SHIELD beforehand. The reason Guardians of the Galaxy did so well is because all you really had to see was Guardians of the Galaxy.
It's a lesson I hope DC has learned going into their own cinematic universe. You can do crossovers and such with comics and even TV series. But it doesn't work with movies. It really doesn't I hope with DC all I have to watch to understand Justice League is Man of Steel and Batman v Superman. I should just want to watch all subsequent movies. I shouldn't have to. We're supposed to have fun watching these movies. They can still be fun, but it feels like a chore when I HAVE to watch all Phase One and Phase Two movies as well as Agents of SHIELD before Age of Ultron, Ant-Man, and Civil War.
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Winter
Which superhero movie will result in the second death of CBMs? The answer is quite simple. The worst movie of whichever comic movie studio is on top. As of now, it will be a terrible Marvel Studios movie that will result in the second death of CBMs. Not that I'm saying any of their movies will be terrible. But as of now, Marvel Studios is the most trusted source for Comic Book Movies. If all other studios made terrible comic book movies, the genre would continue to live on and the studios would have another chance to set it right with their next one, because Marvel is still trusted and will keep CBMs afloat. But unless another studio becomes serious competition for Marvel Studios, (Warner/DC, Fox, or a studio adapting another publisher) then it will be Marvel that brings the whole thing crashing down. If one or 2 of the movies in Phase 3, 4, 5, whatever are just terrible, not even laughably bad, then CBMs are done yet again. If Marvel has competition from other studios or another studio tops Marvel, then CBMs will endure much longer.
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Which superhero movie will result in the second death of CBMs? The answer is quite simple. The worst movie of whichever comic movie studio is on top. As of now, it will be a terrible Marvel Studios movie that will result in the second death of CBMs. Not that I'm saying any of their movies will be terrible. But as of now, Marvel Studios is the most trusted source for Comic Book Movies. If all other studios made terrible comic book movies, the genre would continue to live on and the studios would have another chance to set it right with their next one, because Marvel is still trusted and will keep CBMs afloat. But unless another studio becomes serious competition for Marvel Studios, (Warner/DC, Fox, or a studio adapting another publisher) then it will be Marvel that brings the whole thing crashing down. If one or 2 of the movies in Phase 3, 4, 5, whatever are just terrible, not even laughably bad, then CBMs are done yet again. If Marvel has competition from other studios or another studio tops Marvel, then CBMs will endure much longer.
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SweetCaptain77
Okay, I have 2 major opinions to say:
1 - The ONE DC movie that I would die from if it bombed would be the Sandman. Even if the movie was just the first volume, I CANNOT see how they could screw something so incredible up. THEY BETTER HAVE GAIMAN AS A CONSULTANT!
2nd - I don't think that it's going to be a movie per se that ends the Comic Book(Marvel) Movie Era. The Nostalgia Critic two weeks back posted a video about how this era will no doubt lose its traction/popularity, and be replaced by something else, and I'm inclined to agree with him. But the question that comes to mind after THAT is, what's the next era? Movie Adaptions of videogames, like Japan is doing with Persona 3? I just hope that one day, technology will be so advanced, that it will be the ER OF THE FANBOY, where we can create our OWN movies. every fanboy's dream come true.
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Okay, I have 2 major opinions to say:
1 - The ONE DC movie that I would die from if it bombed would be the Sandman. Even if the movie was just the first volume, I CANNOT see how they could screw something so incredible up. THEY BETTER HAVE GAIMAN AS A CONSULTANT!
2nd - I don't think that it's going to be a movie per se that ends the Comic Book(Marvel) Movie Era. The Nostalgia Critic two weeks back posted a video about how this era will no doubt lose its traction/popularity, and be replaced by something else, and I'm inclined to agree with him. But the question that comes to mind after THAT is, what's the next era? Movie Adaptions of videogames, like Japan is doing with Persona 3? I just hope that one day, technology will be so advanced, that it will be the ER OF THE FANBOY, where we can create our OWN movies. every fanboy's dream come true.
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Strider
I'd Like to say that It's DC's Superman Dawn of Justice that will cause the backlash if they bomb, where as for Marvel it will Probably be Ant Man or Doctor Strange that would cause the backlash, Ant Man because its obscure and Strange because it will be very tricky to get his character just right due to universe he's in. Can come across as Sorcerers Apprentice very easily.
I believe that DC should stick to animated and TV shows with the occasional Batman Superman movie every couple of years. Where as Marvel should stick with live action movies, most of their animated one seems sub par to me as well as some series seemed so similar I mean just look at Avengers United We Stand/ Earths Mightiest Heroes / Assemble
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I'd Like to say that It's DC's Superman Dawn of Justice that will cause the backlash if they bomb, where as for Marvel it will Probably be Ant Man or Doctor Strange that would cause the backlash, Ant Man because its obscure and Strange because it will be very tricky to get his character just right due to universe he's in. Can come across as Sorcerers Apprentice very easily.
I believe that DC should stick to animated and TV shows with the occasional Batman Superman movie every couple of years. Where as Marvel should stick with live action movies, most of their animated one seems sub par to me as well as some series seemed so similar I mean just look at Avengers United We Stand/ Earths Mightiest Heroes / Assemble
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supplanter
I think most movies so far have a pretty solid hype as well as a balanced expectation of the movies being at least an, -Okay- experience. But one comic book movie at this point that has everyone wondering and most uncertain of the outcome would be the up coming Dead-Pool Movie. It is too much of a wild card for anyone to put their finger on. Sure we do not have that much information but going off the story alone and the rage of some fans at a PG-13 Rating does not make it any better. -I have no prob with a PG-13 Dead-Pool as long as they capture his awesome slapstick/tongue and cheek/smart ass humor. But the 4th wall factor that can easily break the wild card movie.
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I think most movies so far have a pretty solid hype as well as a balanced expectation of the movies being at least an, -Okay- experience. But one comic book movie at this point that has everyone wondering and most uncertain of the outcome would be the up coming Dead-Pool Movie. It is too much of a wild card for anyone to put their finger on. Sure we do not have that much information but going off the story alone and the rage of some fans at a PG-13 Rating does not make it any better. -I have no prob with a PG-13 Dead-Pool as long as they capture his awesome slapstick/tongue and cheek/smart ass humor. But the 4th wall factor that can easily break the wild card movie.
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totalcodehero
I think DC's Batman v Superman will bomb, they're bring too many heroes and villians to a film that is about Batman and Superman, I mean having Wonder Woman in there was good enough, but now they bring in everybody else? That's not gonna end well, I mean newcomers aren't even gonna know who the heroes and villains are, much less they're reason why. And bringing in Doomsday, really? Save Doomsday for Man of Steel 3 (If they make it that far) and Metallo and Lex be the villains with a little hint of Joker.
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I think DC's Batman v Superman will bomb, they're bring too many heroes and villians to a film that is about Batman and Superman, I mean having Wonder Woman in there was good enough, but now they bring in everybody else? That's not gonna end well, I mean newcomers aren't even gonna know who the heroes and villains are, much less they're reason why. And bringing in Doomsday, really? Save Doomsday for Man of Steel 3 (If they make it that far) and Metallo and Lex be the villains with a little hint of Joker.
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Cody
I think Batman v. Superman is a risky one. I still think it will do pretty well in theaters, just not as well as Warner Bros. hopes it too, as they haven't built up their movie verse like Marvel has. I will also admit that I'm skeptical about Fantastic Four as well, honestly I'm more excited for Ant-Man, then the reboot. Over all I like where superhero movies are going, but there will always be something to be skeptical about, whether it be the company, director or actors.
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I think Batman v. Superman is a risky one. I still think it will do pretty well in theaters, just not as well as Warner Bros. hopes it too, as they haven't built up their movie verse like Marvel has. I will also admit that I'm skeptical about Fantastic Four as well, honestly I'm more excited for Ant-Man, then the reboot. Over all I like where superhero movies are going, but there will always be something to be skeptical about, whether it be the company, director or actors.
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Ikrani
You ever going to do a rant about how DC puts out 2 or 3 animated movies every year that are better than their live-action films? Because the fact that Under the Red Hood and Superman Vs. The Elite didn't get a theatrical release is just criminal, especially in the face of Man of Steel and Green Lantern (the latter of which I liked, but will freely admit that it could've been improved somewhat by a creature suit or two.
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You ever going to do a rant about how DC puts out 2 or 3 animated movies every year that are better than their live-action films? Because the fact that Under the Red Hood and Superman Vs. The Elite didn't get a theatrical release is just criminal, especially in the face of Man of Steel and Green Lantern (the latter of which I liked, but will freely admit that it could've been improved somewhat by a creature suit or two.
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TheGlacialWarrior
I have a sick feeling in my gut that Batman V Superman is going to suck. Not Batman and Robin levels of bad, but still pretty bad. There's no prior buildup with the characters like with Iron Man and Captain America for Civil War, we haven't even met the new Batman yet and we only got one movie to get to know Superman. I feel like it's trying to do too much and be too big too soon.
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I have a sick feeling in my gut that Batman V Superman is going to suck. Not Batman and Robin levels of bad, but still pretty bad. There's no prior buildup with the characters like with Iron Man and Captain America for Civil War, we haven't even met the new Batman yet and we only got one movie to get to know Superman. I feel like it's trying to do too much and be too big too soon.
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