Why Ant-Man Is Even More Important To Avengers 4 Than We Knew
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Date: 2020-07-14
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fanjoy
Marvel is not going to retcon Infinity War out of the MCU with time travel
They are also not going to eliminate all future stakes and meaning of everything by introducing time travel. (It currently doesn't exist like that, and the Time Stone was actually nerfed to keep time travel out of the MCU)
If they did introduce it, never again could anything be taken seriously as they will/should go back in time will be the thought as soon as anything bad happens. No deaths especially will ever hold any weight or be taken seriously by anyone (they will/can/should go back in time to save him) eliminating all stakes from the MCU forever more
And you don't need the van to get into the Quantum Realm - we've seen the Antman/Wasp suits and Doctor Strange access it, plus quite a few others would/should have the natural ability or intelligence to recreate it.
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Marvel is not going to retcon Infinity War out of the MCU with time travel
They are also not going to eliminate all future stakes and meaning of everything by introducing time travel. (It currently doesn't exist like that, and the Time Stone was actually nerfed to keep time travel out of the MCU)
If they did introduce it, never again could anything be taken seriously as they will/should go back in time will be the thought as soon as anything bad happens. No deaths especially will ever hold any weight or be taken seriously by anyone (they will/can/should go back in time to save him) eliminating all stakes from the MCU forever more
And you don't need the van to get into the Quantum Realm - we've seen the Antman/Wasp suits and Doctor Strange access it, plus quite a few others would/should have the natural ability or intelligence to recreate it.
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Tiny
Scarlet Witch (kinda) warned the Avengers by sending the visions.
Thor: Many thought that Thors visions were about upcoming Ragnarok, but it was about Thanos coming. Thor saw dead Asgardians, at the beginning of IW Thanos and his BO killed majority of the Asgardians.
Tony: He saw the original Avengers dead. Ironically, all 6 of them survived the snap
Cap: He saw Peggy and his comrades in his vision, and then they all disappear as if they all have been snapped.
Now Black Widow and Hulk are complicated. They showed Natashas past, and we didn't see what Wanda implanted in Bruce mind, but it made him turn into Hulk. Maybe she showed him the fight with Thanos and how he lost the battle, that made him angry.
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Scarlet Witch (kinda) warned the Avengers by sending the visions.
Thor: Many thought that Thors visions were about upcoming Ragnarok, but it was about Thanos coming. Thor saw dead Asgardians, at the beginning of IW Thanos and his BO killed majority of the Asgardians.
Tony: He saw the original Avengers dead. Ironically, all 6 of them survived the snap
Cap: He saw Peggy and his comrades in his vision, and then they all disappear as if they all have been snapped.
Now Black Widow and Hulk are complicated. They showed Natashas past, and we didn't see what Wanda implanted in Bruce mind, but it made him turn into Hulk. Maybe she showed him the fight with Thanos and how he lost the battle, that made him angry.
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1991obelisk
And dont get sucked into a time vortex. We wont be able to save you. Ok, has anybody figured out how Janet Van Dyne even KNEW that there WERE existing time vortexes in the Quantum Realm? Seeing that Scott Lang has appeared at the front door of Avengers Headquarters and all during the Avengers: Endgame trailer, its pretty clear by now that he used one to get back to this realm. This begs the question: If Scott Lang figures out how to not only get back to this realm AND revert back to his normal size after such a short time, how is it even possible that Dr. Janet Van Dyne didnt figure it out after being down in the Quantum Realm for decades? Or maybe she did, and thatll be presented later on. Who knows
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And dont get sucked into a time vortex. We wont be able to save you. Ok, has anybody figured out how Janet Van Dyne even KNEW that there WERE existing time vortexes in the Quantum Realm? Seeing that Scott Lang has appeared at the front door of Avengers Headquarters and all during the Avengers: Endgame trailer, its pretty clear by now that he used one to get back to this realm. This begs the question: If Scott Lang figures out how to not only get back to this realm AND revert back to his normal size after such a short time, how is it even possible that Dr. Janet Van Dyne didnt figure it out after being down in the Quantum Realm for decades? Or maybe she did, and thatll be presented later on. Who knows
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Randy
They are going to go down to let Scott in and he will not be there. Scott will wait and realize they aren't coming and then put together that he is in 1983. He will then seek put Howard Stark and Hank Pym who will help send him back to Cap and Widow in modern times. They will know they can use Quantum Relm and will send Rocket and Thor back to find clues that will help them unlock the soul stone and bring the avengers back through the time stone. Meanwhile, Pepper left immediately after hanging up with Tony knowing he wouldn't have a way home so she is already on her way to Rescue him before he even makes that message in his helmet.
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They are going to go down to let Scott in and he will not be there. Scott will wait and realize they aren't coming and then put together that he is in 1983. He will then seek put Howard Stark and Hank Pym who will help send him back to Cap and Widow in modern times. They will know they can use Quantum Relm and will send Rocket and Thor back to find clues that will help them unlock the soul stone and bring the avengers back through the time stone. Meanwhile, Pepper left immediately after hanging up with Tony knowing he wouldn't have a way home so she is already on her way to Rescue him before he even makes that message in his helmet.
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Strumento
My guess is Scott slipped into a time vortex and was able to access the past, not physically but psychically/mentally and hijacked his old self mind to stop himself from going into the quantum realm (similar to how Janet hijacked his mind. He was about to ask the Pym family if they were going to pull a prank on him when they all turned into dust. Scott shitted his pants, drove the van to Avengers HQ to seek help but was stuck at the gate as the surviving Avengers were still at Wakanda. He recorded his contact details in the CCTV and left the HQ.
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My guess is Scott slipped into a time vortex and was able to access the past, not physically but psychically/mentally and hijacked his old self mind to stop himself from going into the quantum realm (similar to how Janet hijacked his mind. He was about to ask the Pym family if they were going to pull a prank on him when they all turned into dust. Scott shitted his pants, drove the van to Avengers HQ to seek help but was stuck at the gate as the surviving Avengers were still at Wakanda. He recorded his contact details in the CCTV and left the HQ.
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Anish
Endgame is gonna be great but if Marvel lets Captain Marvel get the final blow on Thanos then I will flip. I get that she's the newest and strongest hero but she can't get put in the spotlight so early. Tony, Cap, and Thor have sacrificed so much more and it should be one of those three (preferably Tony) who kills him and sacrifices themselves. I didnt want Captain Marvel in Endgame anyway but I don't want her to be OP cuz she's a girl.
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Endgame is gonna be great but if Marvel lets Captain Marvel get the final blow on Thanos then I will flip. I get that she's the newest and strongest hero but she can't get put in the spotlight so early. Tony, Cap, and Thor have sacrificed so much more and it should be one of those three (preferably Tony) who kills him and sacrifices themselves. I didnt want Captain Marvel in Endgame anyway but I don't want her to be OP cuz she's a girl.
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Lyric
Ant man is SO IMPORTANT THE INFINITY WAR 1RST ONE SNTMAN CPILD KF GOT ALL THE INFINITY STONES STEAL THEM FROM HIS GAUNTLET THEN WE WOULD TASE STAR LORD THEN WE WOULD GET THE ALIEN GIRL AND THEN JUMP ON THANOS AND THEN WE WOULD GET THE GAUNTLET THEN IRON MAN WOULD FIGHT THANOS WHILE IRON MAN HAS THE GAUNTLET AND ALL STONES AND THEN IRON MAN WWOULD SNAP HIS FINGERS NO MORE VILLIANS WOULD BE IN DA MCU FOR LONG AFTER ENDGAME
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Ant man is SO IMPORTANT THE INFINITY WAR 1RST ONE SNTMAN CPILD KF GOT ALL THE INFINITY STONES STEAL THEM FROM HIS GAUNTLET THEN WE WOULD TASE STAR LORD THEN WE WOULD GET THE ALIEN GIRL AND THEN JUMP ON THANOS AND THEN WE WOULD GET THE GAUNTLET THEN IRON MAN WOULD FIGHT THANOS WHILE IRON MAN HAS THE GAUNTLET AND ALL STONES AND THEN IRON MAN WWOULD SNAP HIS FINGERS NO MORE VILLIANS WOULD BE IN DA MCU FOR LONG AFTER ENDGAME
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Shalakh
0: 00 Did Tony actually had a helmet when he left Titan? I think no. Cause Thanos destroyed it and if he could make it again with the nanotech, it would be new without a scrach as he assembles the remaining part to form helmet. So I Think that this is not the scene where he leave Titan. And one more thing. Where is the wound by the stab Thanos gave to Tony? I need answers.
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0: 00 Did Tony actually had a helmet when he left Titan? I think no. Cause Thanos destroyed it and if he could make it again with the nanotech, it would be new without a scrach as he assembles the remaining part to form helmet. So I Think that this is not the scene where he leave Titan. And one more thing. Where is the wound by the stab Thanos gave to Tony? I need answers.
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PhdAAA
I predict again Ant Man will be the central character in the war, an idea expressed by L'Engel in her book after A Wrinkle in Time--A Swiftly Tilting Planet where the very small is interconnected with the whole universe. The Idea of the small defeating evil is also found in The Lord of the Rings where a hobbit is the main hero of a story with kings and wizards.
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I predict again Ant Man will be the central character in the war, an idea expressed by L'Engel in her book after A Wrinkle in Time--A Swiftly Tilting Planet where the very small is interconnected with the whole universe. The Idea of the small defeating evil is also found in The Lord of the Rings where a hobbit is the main hero of a story with kings and wizards.
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