Intel Arc Rumors Wrong, AMD RX 6500 XT Problems, AM5 Lifespan
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I didn't think it'd be possible to get worse than that, but leave it to Intel to invent it. A 12900k with a 125W, or more realistically 250W TDP crammed in a tiny box barely bigger than a GPU. Things are not going to go well.
Date: 2022-01-10
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Robert
Gamers Nexus what do you think?
Maybe AMD or Nvidia should come out with graphics cards that are 1080p with low ram but have capability to connect them in a sort of SLI format up to 4 cards. Maybe a new format of pin connections on new kinds of motherboards that makes them difficult to put a lot together in a small area. The cards combined can boost graphics power to 4k or higher and give people a little at a time to upgrade by purchasing cards when they are more available and when they can afford them while the new motherboard would be less enticing to miners because they take up more space, combined use a bit more power and have to get new motherboards. At the same time with potentially less cards in systems, big brother would be happy that less power is consumed unless you purchase more.
Maybe not the best idea but a start to give options so gamers can game. Let's come up with ideas to pitch them.
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Gamers Nexus what do you think?
Maybe AMD or Nvidia should come out with graphics cards that are 1080p with low ram but have capability to connect them in a sort of SLI format up to 4 cards. Maybe a new format of pin connections on new kinds of motherboards that makes them difficult to put a lot together in a small area. The cards combined can boost graphics power to 4k or higher and give people a little at a time to upgrade by purchasing cards when they are more available and when they can afford them while the new motherboard would be less enticing to miners because they take up more space, combined use a bit more power and have to get new motherboards. At the same time with potentially less cards in systems, big brother would be happy that less power is consumed unless you purchase more.
Maybe not the best idea but a start to give options so gamers can game. Let's come up with ideas to pitch them.
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CheapBastard1988
Because AMD arbitrarily made Ryzen 5000 unusable on 300 series boards, the long term support for AM5 will be doubted throughout its generation. Because Intel used the same LGA 1151 socket for years but only supported two generations on each chipset. AMD could do the same as Intel on AM5 whenever it's convenient to them.
So buying AMD instead of Intel for the long term board support is pointless. Even if AM5 ends up with better support, that can't be something to take into consideration when making the initial purchase decision. Which is a shame.
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Because AMD arbitrarily made Ryzen 5000 unusable on 300 series boards, the long term support for AM5 will be doubted throughout its generation. Because Intel used the same LGA 1151 socket for years but only supported two generations on each chipset. AMD could do the same as Intel on AM5 whenever it's convenient to them.
So buying AMD instead of Intel for the long term board support is pointless. Even if AM5 ends up with better support, that can't be something to take into consideration when making the initial purchase decision. Which is a shame.
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Katie
Instead of 5 years of support for AM4, I hope AM5 is supported for 4. All the way to AM9, thats a solid two decades. With that naming scheme figured out, maybe they can fix their naming scheme for literally everything else. For gpus, x0x series, going up one number each gen. 101, 102, 103. 201, 202, 203, ect.
For cpus, x00x series. Just start over and use sonys ps1, ps2, ps3 easy to differentiate naming scheme. One day, AMD will do the dirty like usb, and need to clean slate it now before things get dumb.
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Instead of 5 years of support for AM4, I hope AM5 is supported for 4. All the way to AM9, thats a solid two decades. With that naming scheme figured out, maybe they can fix their naming scheme for literally everything else. For gpus, x0x series, going up one number each gen. 101, 102, 103. 201, 202, 203, ect.
For cpus, x00x series. Just start over and use sonys ps1, ps2, ps3 easy to differentiate naming scheme. One day, AMD will do the dirty like usb, and need to clean slate it now before things get dumb.
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Nunya
The 6500XT is an interesting card. AMD's stated rationale was to make it less appealing for miners. You could make that argument for the 64-bit memory bus width and the 4GB capacity, but the x4 width is something that won't hurt mining at all, though it very well could have the potential to hurt performance. Especially given that A520 boards for AMD's own processors have no gen 4 at all, and the 6500XT is the sort of card you might expect to see paired with cheaper boards.
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The 6500XT is an interesting card. AMD's stated rationale was to make it less appealing for miners. You could make that argument for the 64-bit memory bus width and the 4GB capacity, but the x4 width is something that won't hurt mining at all, though it very well could have the potential to hurt performance. Especially given that A520 boards for AMD's own processors have no gen 4 at all, and the 6500XT is the sort of card you might expect to see paired with cheaper boards.
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TAP7a
Or, the Steam Hardware Survey could be more to do with the fact that almost all monitors are insanely expensive. Like, some monitors reviewed and praised for their value, price: performance etc are the cost of a competent entry level system. A numeric majority of people do not have 800 to drop on a monitor, so no wonder 1080p is still winning, and I wouldn't be surprised if most of those are older or OEM panels that came with a system or were inherited from a nearby source
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Or, the Steam Hardware Survey could be more to do with the fact that almost all monitors are insanely expensive. Like, some monitors reviewed and praised for their value, price: performance etc are the cost of a competent entry level system. A numeric majority of people do not have 800 to drop on a monitor, so no wonder 1080p is still winning, and I wouldn't be surprised if most of those are older or OEM panels that came with a system or were inherited from a nearby source
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Anulu
I had my 5950x on a Asrock Fatal1ty x370 itx with a Special Beta Bios.Only Problem was WHEA Errors when Overclocking IF/Ram wich was more a AGESA Problem and AMD forbid Asrock to release newer BIOS....I have changed to a Asus CH8 Impact and i like that Board but the x370 Board could boot with higher IF/Ram Overclocks and i would like to try it again with a newer Bios.
Still have the Screenshots from testing DDR4000/2000IF 55ns Ram Latency and AIDA Stresstest
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I had my 5950x on a Asrock Fatal1ty x370 itx with a Special Beta Bios.Only Problem was WHEA Errors when Overclocking IF/Ram wich was more a AGESA Problem and AMD forbid Asrock to release newer BIOS....I have changed to a Asus CH8 Impact and i like that Board but the x370 Board could boot with higher IF/Ram Overclocks and i would like to try it again with a newer Bios.
Still have the Screenshots from testing DDR4000/2000IF 55ns Ram Latency and AIDA Stresstest
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Shibathedog
Where I am living now we have 5mbps internet. FIVE. This is in the USA. The ISP refuses to do anything about it unless we pay them thousands of dollars to run a new line. I cannot play games online anymore. Should I just get a Verizon hotspot? The only crappy thing is 5G isn't any faster here it's the same 5mbps with slightly better latency. 4G is around 40mbps though.
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Where I am living now we have 5mbps internet. FIVE. This is in the USA. The ISP refuses to do anything about it unless we pay them thousands of dollars to run a new line. I cannot play games online anymore. Should I just get a Verizon hotspot? The only crappy thing is 5G isn't any faster here it's the same 5mbps with slightly better latency. 4G is around 40mbps though.
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JETWTF
I don't see AMD's long use of the same socket as any kind of benefit. Buy a new CPU and motherboard that's the first for that socket then by the time you need to upgrade other technologies has updated, Stick with the same motherboard when you upgrade the CPU then you won't get the more advanced technologies and in many cases leaving some performance off the table.
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I don't see AMD's long use of the same socket as any kind of benefit. Buy a new CPU and motherboard that's the first for that socket then by the time you need to upgrade other technologies has updated, Stick with the same motherboard when you upgrade the CPU then you won't get the more advanced technologies and in many cases leaving some performance off the table.
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Stuart
I feel for AMD here...
they have 2 big problems
1 ) dont allow 5xxx series chips on x370... Community is outraged at being artificially limited to the CPUs they can use.
2 ) allow the CPUs, but tell the community that cannot guarantee they will get the full performance out the CPU... which of course will make the community angry
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I feel for AMD here...
they have 2 big problems
1 ) dont allow 5xxx series chips on x370... Community is outraged at being artificially limited to the CPUs they can use.
2 ) allow the CPUs, but tell the community that cannot guarantee they will get the full performance out the CPU... which of course will make the community angry
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