The Steam Deck's Big Controversy - New vs. Old Fans
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Date: 2022-06-07
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My perception is at the second fand is slightly louder and I mean very very slightly, but at a lower pitch Which is less piercing. Personally I would take the second fan if given the choice. My background is it as well, but I don't have any audio experience. But I do work a fair amount with suppressors. And I have found DB readings to be very difficult to understand / almost misleading. And I have found very much a preference for deeper pitched sounds glengoyne for suppression. Personally, I have suppressors with a Form 1 that were identical externally. Same length, same diameter. Same design of K baffle. One had twice as many baffles internally and because of that the blast chamber which is the chamber closest to the end of the rifle was very small. Objectively, that was a quieter suppressor. Not insignificantly, eight decibels quieter. The other suppressor use half as many baffles, but had a nearly three inch-long blast chamber. Objectively, quite a bit louder. But in field testing everyone asked preferred the second suppressor. The first suppressor was eight decibels quieter comma but the quality of the noise was high pitched and had a whistly quality to it. The second suppressors sound was deeper comma and gave a bit of the chest thump, but was much easier on the ears and from a distance was much more difficult to locate.
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My perception is at the second fand is slightly louder and I mean very very slightly, but at a lower pitch Which is less piercing. Personally I would take the second fan if given the choice. My background is it as well, but I don't have any audio experience. But I do work a fair amount with suppressors. And I have found DB readings to be very difficult to understand / almost misleading. And I have found very much a preference for deeper pitched sounds glengoyne for suppression. Personally, I have suppressors with a Form 1 that were identical externally. Same length, same diameter. Same design of K baffle. One had twice as many baffles internally and because of that the blast chamber which is the chamber closest to the end of the rifle was very small. Objectively, that was a quieter suppressor. Not insignificantly, eight decibels quieter. The other suppressor use half as many baffles, but had a nearly three inch-long blast chamber. Objectively, quite a bit louder. But in field testing everyone asked preferred the second suppressor. The first suppressor was eight decibels quieter comma but the quality of the noise was high pitched and had a whistly quality to it. The second suppressors sound was deeper comma and gave a bit of the chest thump, but was much easier on the ears and from a distance was much more difficult to locate.
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dosduros
Fan 1 is less pleasant to me.
It does not sound like it is louder, but the perceived noise seems like there is more of it. It also seems more uneven to me, something harder to phase out from your active hearing.
I am trying very hard to remember where I have heard the first fan in (as from memory what does it remind me of) and I am mostly coming with nothing. The closest I can come up with is a plane turbine while it is idle (when the plane is not yet in flight) but even that seems more even.
There seems to be some odd cycles also in the high pitch that almost sounds like the fan is spinning too fast for what it is rated.
2nd one is easier on the ear.
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Fan 1 is less pleasant to me.
It does not sound like it is louder, but the perceived noise seems like there is more of it. It also seems more uneven to me, something harder to phase out from your active hearing.
I am trying very hard to remember where I have heard the first fan in (as from memory what does it remind me of) and I am mostly coming with nothing. The closest I can come up with is a plane turbine while it is idle (when the plane is not yet in flight) but even that seems more even.
There seems to be some odd cycles also in the high pitch that almost sounds like the fan is spinning too fast for what it is rated.
2nd one is easier on the ear.
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Hey everyone! Thanks for all of your support on this type of content and your patience while we worked on it. We wanted to learn as much as we could before publishing anything. Naturally, any time we start new testing, our standards will still be growing and our ability to make confident statements will be limited. This is by design and to respect the scientific process and the fact that there are many unknowns we're still researching. It's been so fun and rewarding to work on this stuff! Can't wait to do more soon and improve each time to get the standard up each time!
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Hey everyone! Thanks for all of your support on this type of content and your patience while we worked on it. We wanted to learn as much as we could before publishing anything. Naturally, any time we start new testing, our standards will still be growing and our ability to make confident statements will be limited. This is by design and to respect the scientific process and the fact that there are many unknowns we're still researching. It's been so fun and rewarding to work on this stuff! Can't wait to do more soon and improve each time to get the standard up each time!
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snargelfargen1
Just throwing in my 2 cents here: the Delta fan has a higher pitch, which is subjectively less pleasant for a lot of people. But if you're a dumb dumb like me who wrecked their ears by not wearing proper ear pro (stuff like construction, firearms or in my case, being a drummer), those higher pitched sounds can be a lot harder to notice as we lose sensitivity to high frequencies first and it only gets worse with age. So reactions are going to be all over the board.
Still probably a good idea to take pitch and frequency into account with these tests.
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Just throwing in my 2 cents here: the Delta fan has a higher pitch, which is subjectively less pleasant for a lot of people. But if you're a dumb dumb like me who wrecked their ears by not wearing proper ear pro (stuff like construction, firearms or in my case, being a drummer), those higher pitched sounds can be a lot harder to notice as we lose sensitivity to high frequencies first and it only gets worse with age. So reactions are going to be all over the board.
Still probably a good idea to take pitch and frequency into account with these tests.
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Mitril47
Fan 1 immediately stood out to me as being higher pitch, and therefore irritating. Given the short recording distance I thought it might flip in a real-world scenario, as bass tends to travel further and better, so might be more noticeable. Then the over-under test happened and it seems that going from 4 to 9 inches doesn't make enough of a difference - the higher pitch is still more irritating.
Guessed delta for fan 1 entirely based on the high pitch and wasn't surprised by the outcome.
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Fan 1 immediately stood out to me as being higher pitch, and therefore irritating. Given the short recording distance I thought it might flip in a real-world scenario, as bass tends to travel further and better, so might be more noticeable. Then the over-under test happened and it seems that going from 4 to 9 inches doesn't make enough of a difference - the higher pitch is still more irritating.
Guessed delta for fan 1 entirely based on the high pitch and wasn't surprised by the outcome.
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ChannleTonyGuin10
Fan #2 sounds much better than #1.
After watching the rest of the video, it seems like the fan in my deck might be the delta. I do notice that high pitch sound with my deck, its not enough that it ruins the experience for me but the sound from the huaying would be much more pleasant to have. I might switch it out someday for the hauying but I'm in no rush, maybe after a while when dust builds up inside my deck.
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Fan #2 sounds much better than #1.
After watching the rest of the video, it seems like the fan in my deck might be the delta. I do notice that high pitch sound with my deck, its not enough that it ruins the experience for me but the sound from the huaying would be much more pleasant to have. I might switch it out someday for the hauying but I'm in no rush, maybe after a while when dust builds up inside my deck.
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Norrotaku
i liked the second one more?
maybe?
and onbtge second test the second one aswel (am i a fool? cuz you said you switched from the first sample)
after the reveal my opinion seems validated but I'm still confused by your red herring
also why that title?
cuz traditional media uses this to stir outrage?
is this title ironic?
is this where we have come to now?
video itself was nice
but why the title?
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i liked the second one more?
maybe?
and onbtge second test the second one aswel (am i a fool? cuz you said you switched from the first sample)
after the reveal my opinion seems validated but I'm still confused by your red herring
also why that title?
cuz traditional media uses this to stir outrage?
is this title ironic?
is this where we have come to now?
video itself was nice
but why the title?
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SatanTwister
I'd suggest GN does a follow up investigation on the fan characteristic out of the steam deck as well, ie does the situation differ much when the fans are alone in open air to see how much the steam deck shell contributes to the noise. Also I wouldn't mind a bit of a louder fan if it gives better thermal performance (I doubt it though).. The Delta fan deifnitely sounds more annoying.
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I'd suggest GN does a follow up investigation on the fan characteristic out of the steam deck as well, ie does the situation differ much when the fans are alone in open air to see how much the steam deck shell contributes to the noise. Also I wouldn't mind a bit of a louder fan if it gives better thermal performance (I doubt it though).. The Delta fan deifnitely sounds more annoying.
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KY D I
If it's more white noise, it's more pleasant. If you have weird other noises in the spectrum that dominate within the range of human hearing, it can be much more unpleasant although the noise energy is much lower. Especially when it's a frequency within the band of human speech. This is why I find Fan 1 better than Fan 2. Judged by the very first noise samples in the video.
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If it's more white noise, it's more pleasant. If you have weird other noises in the spectrum that dominate within the range of human hearing, it can be much more unpleasant although the noise energy is much lower. Especially when it's a frequency within the band of human speech. This is why I find Fan 1 better than Fan 2. Judged by the very first noise samples in the video.
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ModernOddity
Coming from someone who can't sleep without the white noise of a fan, I hate that Delta fan. It is my opinion that subjectively it seems the higher the frequency of noise the more annoying to the human ear it is, the lower the frequency the less noticeable the noise produced will be during whatever tasks associated with whatever product is being discussed.
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Coming from someone who can't sleep without the white noise of a fan, I hate that Delta fan. It is my opinion that subjectively it seems the higher the frequency of noise the more annoying to the human ear it is, the lower the frequency the less noticeable the noise produced will be during whatever tasks associated with whatever product is being discussed.
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