MSI RX 5700 XT Gaming X Review vs. Nitro+, THICC, & More
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Date: 2020-05-06
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Sultry
With the amount of EVGA 970 XOC model cards that I've seen that have a failed (blown fet) or vrm are those without any vrm cooling whatsoever, including a 0 fanspeed mode. These two things in combination lead to the cards imminent death for many Australian users after 4 years. I went through 12 locally sourced cards and found that the same fet on each board had serious heat damage, ranging from blistered packages to straight up exploded ones. I have also found this with many GTX 600, 700 series cards that featured little to no power delivery cooling. That being said, the benefit of cooler vrms and power delivery is simply longevity. It would be nice to see the degredation of voltage stability on one of your higher tier 10 series EVGA cards that do not have active power delivery cooling, after extreme burn in for about 2-3 hours. (I ask this for the budget conscious buyers of 2020 when it comes around as there are going to be many cards that will start failing due to the wonderful Australian climate)
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With the amount of EVGA 970 XOC model cards that I've seen that have a failed (blown fet) or vrm are those without any vrm cooling whatsoever, including a 0 fanspeed mode. These two things in combination lead to the cards imminent death for many Australian users after 4 years. I went through 12 locally sourced cards and found that the same fet on each board had serious heat damage, ranging from blistered packages to straight up exploded ones. I have also found this with many GTX 600, 700 series cards that featured little to no power delivery cooling. That being said, the benefit of cooler vrms and power delivery is simply longevity. It would be nice to see the degredation of voltage stability on one of your higher tier 10 series EVGA cards that do not have active power delivery cooling, after extreme burn in for about 2-3 hours. (I ask this for the budget conscious buyers of 2020 when it comes around as there are going to be many cards that will start failing due to the wonderful Australian climate)
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sermerlin1
Seems like MSI Gaming X is doing alright though could it be that this coil whine was just lucky lottery? As i see this type of coil whine could be introduced with any GPU as it can't be tamed easily and some coils are looser then others thus able to vibrate more then the others due to magnetic field causing this annoying whine. I'm currently looking at 5700xt to purchase and based it down to Powercolor Red devil, gigabyte gaming OC and MSI gaming X. Sapphire nitro is about 100 to 130e more expensive then the rest (I don't know why and how do they think of selling it in my country) literally in the range of 2070s just like asus strix.
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Seems like MSI Gaming X is doing alright though could it be that this coil whine was just lucky lottery? As i see this type of coil whine could be introduced with any GPU as it can't be tamed easily and some coils are looser then others thus able to vibrate more then the others due to magnetic field causing this annoying whine. I'm currently looking at 5700xt to purchase and based it down to Powercolor Red devil, gigabyte gaming OC and MSI gaming X. Sapphire nitro is about 100 to 130e more expensive then the rest (I don't know why and how do they think of selling it in my country) literally in the range of 2070s just like asus strix.
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badjonatan
Regarding the Taichi card, every display port is independent and dedicated to it's gpu, all other ports combined(D-SUB, DVI and HDMI) are shared between all external/internal gpu's on two lanes, they can redirect the signal but can only drive up to two displays simultaneously. As soon as it has 4 DP's and you are not exceeding the max total resolution it will work with 6 displays simultaneously, there is no need of testing. I'm running 5 monitors and a TV and this card happens the be the perfect upgrade for my setup in order to hook up everything on a single high performance gpu.
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Regarding the Taichi card, every display port is independent and dedicated to it's gpu, all other ports combined(D-SUB, DVI and HDMI) are shared between all external/internal gpu's on two lanes, they can redirect the signal but can only drive up to two displays simultaneously. As soon as it has 4 DP's and you are not exceeding the max total resolution it will work with 6 displays simultaneously, there is no need of testing. I'm running 5 monitors and a TV and this card happens the be the perfect upgrade for my setup in order to hook up everything on a single high performance gpu.
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Ghola
Much appreciated the report about the card's coil whine. It's hardly ever mentioned by reviewers even though, in my experience with Asus GTX 1080Ti for example, coil whine seems to be an issue with lots of video cards. I don't know if it goes away after a brake-in time period, I'm not willing to test it myself past the 15-days return window. If it goes away, the manufacturers should tell us after _THEY_ extensively test their own cards.
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Much appreciated the report about the card's coil whine. It's hardly ever mentioned by reviewers even though, in my experience with Asus GTX 1080Ti for example, coil whine seems to be an issue with lots of video cards. I don't know if it goes away after a brake-in time period, I'm not willing to test it myself past the 15-days return window. If it goes away, the manufacturers should tell us after _THEY_ extensively test their own cards.
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ILLAngel101
All these breaking down, and Benchmark testing, and these cards don't even fking work. Have you guys even actually tried playing a game with these cards? lol. Assassin's Creed Odyssey is straight up broken if you try to play the Atlantis DLC. Crashes to desktop as soon as you move. I'm really going to try to get mine working, and if i can't do it by the morning it's getting returned for a 2070 super.
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All these breaking down, and Benchmark testing, and these cards don't even fking work. Have you guys even actually tried playing a game with these cards? lol. Assassin's Creed Odyssey is straight up broken if you try to play the Atlantis DLC. Crashes to desktop as soon as you move. I'm really going to try to get mine working, and if i can't do it by the morning it's getting returned for a 2070 super.
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El
I really don't understand how the 3rd party GPU market survives when almost every product is identical save for minor aesthetic/performance tweaks (and 1-2% is MOE territory. What benefit is there to the consumer of a hugely crowded market with nothing to differentiate the various products? I get that there are some weird outliers like the Thicc but surely this market structure cannot continue?
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I really don't understand how the 3rd party GPU market survives when almost every product is identical save for minor aesthetic/performance tweaks (and 1-2% is MOE territory. What benefit is there to the consumer of a hugely crowded market with nothing to differentiate the various products? I get that there are some weird outliers like the Thicc but surely this market structure cannot continue?
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Jason
If you want justification for monitoring / differentiating VRM mosfet temps, though Mosfets themselves can tolerate very high temps, then you can consider possible long term effects of cooking the PCB material itself. Was shown the other day what happens to the PCB around VRMs over time with repeated thermal cycling, and I was pretty shocked at the failure modes and stresses involved.
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If you want justification for monitoring / differentiating VRM mosfet temps, though Mosfets themselves can tolerate very high temps, then you can consider possible long term effects of cooking the PCB material itself. Was shown the other day what happens to the PCB around VRMs over time with repeated thermal cycling, and I was pretty shocked at the failure modes and stresses involved.
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Quix
I'm kinda disappointed, my MSI 1070 Gaming X has the best cooling solution of any video card I've ever bought, having previously had to install aftermarket cooking solutions on several previous cards (2 reference 7950s being the worst. I would have thought this card would be an unambiguously great card. I guess it shows you need to do your research.
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I'm kinda disappointed, my MSI 1070 Gaming X has the best cooling solution of any video card I've ever bought, having previously had to install aftermarket cooking solutions on several previous cards (2 reference 7950s being the worst. I would have thought this card would be an unambiguously great card. I guess it shows you need to do your research.
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Joes
Hey GN can you tell me if there is a difference between board partner reference cards and OEM reference cards? I'm curious why so many board partners would produce reference cards before custom cards and dilute the market if all reference cards are all the same. Brand loyalty, better margins, market share?
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Hey GN can you tell me if there is a difference between board partner reference cards and OEM reference cards? I'm curious why so many board partners would produce reference cards before custom cards and dilute the market if all reference cards are all the same. Brand loyalty, better margins, market share?
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Crazyates11
Can you look at a ref 5700 XT with the lower power vbios and test it with an aftermarket cooler like the Arctic Extreme IV or Twin Turbo III? I would imagine that the lower cost of the ref 5700 XT allows for the cost of an aftermarket cooler, and would run cooler than a card that pulls 220w or more.
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Can you look at a ref 5700 XT with the lower power vbios and test it with an aftermarket cooler like the Arctic Extreme IV or Twin Turbo III? I would imagine that the lower cost of the ref 5700 XT allows for the cost of an aftermarket cooler, and would run cooler than a card that pulls 220w or more.
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