AMD R7 3700X & R5 3600 in 2024 Revisit: Benchmarks vs. 7800X3D, 5700X3D, & More
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Date: 2024-07-26
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lexzbuddy
I'm still running a 3700X. It's great and I can't justify an update when my 3700X is still doing so well with no apparent issues. It seems to idle away most of the time and rarely stretches it's legs. It's been incredible.
I can't imagine what a 5800x3D would be like considering how OTT the 3700X still seems to be for me. Even more mind boggling would be next Gen CPUs, they must be bordering on precognition.
I play World of Warcraft and do a lot of 3D modelling and 3D printing. Not sure if a 5700X3D would make any sense to me. The 8 cores on my 3700X is great for Blender jobs that I run but a better graphics card doesn't really help as I use Blender to batch generate STL files. I'm still running an RX580 but I think it's close to end of life for me. I just can't justify the high price of current Gen GPUs for the stuff I do. WOW seems to be struggling to get to 60FPS at 1080 and I would like a bit more oomph. I just don't know what the smartest choice would be. Cost really does matter to me, that's the driver. So performance yes but bang for Buck is king as far as I am concerned.
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I'm still running a 3700X. It's great and I can't justify an update when my 3700X is still doing so well with no apparent issues. It seems to idle away most of the time and rarely stretches it's legs. It's been incredible.
I can't imagine what a 5800x3D would be like considering how OTT the 3700X still seems to be for me. Even more mind boggling would be next Gen CPUs, they must be bordering on precognition.
I play World of Warcraft and do a lot of 3D modelling and 3D printing. Not sure if a 5700X3D would make any sense to me. The 8 cores on my 3700X is great for Blender jobs that I run but a better graphics card doesn't really help as I use Blender to batch generate STL files. I'm still running an RX580 but I think it's close to end of life for me. I just can't justify the high price of current Gen GPUs for the stuff I do. WOW seems to be struggling to get to 60FPS at 1080 and I would like a bit more oomph. I just don't know what the smartest choice would be. Cost really does matter to me, that's the driver. So performance yes but bang for Buck is king as far as I am concerned.
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Angel7black
I had a 3700X. It was a pretty great CPU and my only regret was that when i first got into PC’s i went cheap and got a 2600X instead then sold it and went to a 3700X like less than a year later cause i felt like it wasnt enough.
Zen 1 was pretty wack and overhyped, Zen was ok enough but still not great that amazing for gaming. Just cheap and good at productivity.
Zen 2 though for me was peak Ryzen. It was 8600K performance but as cheap as $200 for a 6 core 12 thread and $300 for an 8 core. As it shouldve been and as it shouldve stayed. Zen 3 finally took the gaming crown briefly till Alder Lake and was still close in gaming and even productivity with 10th gen Intel, while costing more. They knew they were the best and they were gonna be the next Intel and the fanboys kinda just defended it and accepted it. Zen 3 was actually overpriced for so long and even out of stock constantly but people still glaze it just because late in life it got cheap and because the 5800X3D came out. Zen 2 though, that really was when AMD was putting the consumer first
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I had a 3700X. It was a pretty great CPU and my only regret was that when i first got into PC’s i went cheap and got a 2600X instead then sold it and went to a 3700X like less than a year later cause i felt like it wasnt enough.
Zen 1 was pretty wack and overhyped, Zen was ok enough but still not great that amazing for gaming. Just cheap and good at productivity.
Zen 2 though for me was peak Ryzen. It was 8600K performance but as cheap as $200 for a 6 core 12 thread and $300 for an 8 core. As it shouldve been and as it shouldve stayed. Zen 3 finally took the gaming crown briefly till Alder Lake and was still close in gaming and even productivity with 10th gen Intel, while costing more. They knew they were the best and they were gonna be the next Intel and the fanboys kinda just defended it and accepted it. Zen 3 was actually overpriced for so long and even out of stock constantly but people still glaze it just because late in life it got cheap and because the 5800X3D came out. Zen 2 though, that really was when AMD was putting the consumer first
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jaredmulconry
I recently upgraded from an Ryzen 7 1700 to a 7800X3D. That upgrade was dramatic, along with a fresh Windows 11 install. I appreciate that I don't have to accommodate for hundreds of extra CPU watts consumed in that upgrade. Air cooling the 7800X3D has been doable, if a little noisy at times. That upgrade came when I realised the games I want to play are being limited by my CPU, even when my GPU is still a lowly GTX1070. I've gotten more legs out of my GPU by getting the CPU out of its way. Until I'm ready to commit to gaming regularly at native 4k, I can keep my old GPU going.
Thanks to you and other outlets revisiting old processors, I was able to gauge the improvements I would see and I took the plunge when the CPU was about the same as what I originally paid, and when my money would get me roughly 150% uplifts in my usual workloads.
This is a great resource. I hope you keep these going in the future.
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I recently upgraded from an Ryzen 7 1700 to a 7800X3D. That upgrade was dramatic, along with a fresh Windows 11 install. I appreciate that I don't have to accommodate for hundreds of extra CPU watts consumed in that upgrade. Air cooling the 7800X3D has been doable, if a little noisy at times. That upgrade came when I realised the games I want to play are being limited by my CPU, even when my GPU is still a lowly GTX1070. I've gotten more legs out of my GPU by getting the CPU out of its way. Until I'm ready to commit to gaming regularly at native 4k, I can keep my old GPU going.
Thanks to you and other outlets revisiting old processors, I was able to gauge the improvements I would see and I took the plunge when the CPU was about the same as what I originally paid, and when my money would get me roughly 150% uplifts in my usual workloads.
This is a great resource. I hope you keep these going in the future.
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gv100_blitz
I love this way of presenting data, people can’t afford the newest best every new generation, but this data lets you find your optimal upgrade path in-socket and in-budget! I understand prices fluctuate, so putting prices in these graphs wouldn’t be very useful, but mentioning some standouts like the 5700x3d is a fantastic addition to let us viewers know where to look! Personally I’m totally considering a 5700x3d at that kind of price to give my 5500 system a new lease on life in 2024! Thanks Steve and the gn team for giving us this well-organized info in such a readable form!
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I love this way of presenting data, people can’t afford the newest best every new generation, but this data lets you find your optimal upgrade path in-socket and in-budget! I understand prices fluctuate, so putting prices in these graphs wouldn’t be very useful, but mentioning some standouts like the 5700x3d is a fantastic addition to let us viewers know where to look! Personally I’m totally considering a 5700x3d at that kind of price to give my 5500 system a new lease on life in 2024! Thanks Steve and the gn team for giving us this well-organized info in such a readable form!
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deviousnate7238
Half a year after I upgraded to the 5800x3d I put the 3600 in a HTPC build with a cheap mobo/ram combo plus some other parts I had lying around. Since then I've spent more time using it than my main rig because lately I'm getting more enjoyment from playing my older or easier to run games at 4k60 with a controller from my recliner rather than newer games at 1440p170 with my keyboard at the desk. Funny how that goes sometimes. My 3600 will probably be in that role until my next new build in another 3-5 years. If it does it will have lasted about as long as my i5-3570K.
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Half a year after I upgraded to the 5800x3d I put the 3600 in a HTPC build with a cheap mobo/ram combo plus some other parts I had lying around. Since then I've spent more time using it than my main rig because lately I'm getting more enjoyment from playing my older or easier to run games at 4k60 with a controller from my recliner rather than newer games at 1440p170 with my keyboard at the desk. Funny how that goes sometimes. My 3600 will probably be in that role until my next new build in another 3-5 years. If it does it will have lasted about as long as my i5-3570K.
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TheEvdiggity
I know this CPU isn't supper popular, especially for gaming but I would appreciate seeing the 5700G in your upcoming testing. The benchmarks I see for it are usually running with the integrated graphics. I have this CPU with a dedicated GPU. I am thinking of upgrading to a 5700X3D/5800X3D or (a whole new platform) 7600/9600. I would like to see how my CPU stacks up in benchmarks ran with a discreet GPU. Anyways I know it a long shot and a bit of an ask but I thought it's worth a shot. Good luck with all your benchmarks I'm sure it's going to be tough.
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I know this CPU isn't supper popular, especially for gaming but I would appreciate seeing the 5700G in your upcoming testing. The benchmarks I see for it are usually running with the integrated graphics. I have this CPU with a dedicated GPU. I am thinking of upgrading to a 5700X3D/5800X3D or (a whole new platform) 7600/9600. I would like to see how my CPU stacks up in benchmarks ran with a discreet GPU. Anyways I know it a long shot and a bit of an ask but I thought it's worth a shot. Good luck with all your benchmarks I'm sure it's going to be tough.
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Welshmanshots
I remember in late 2019 I was looking for parts to build a new system and it was mostly your videos i watched for almost all of my parts, the 3700X cpu that i still use runs games very well today and edits videos moderately (it does lag when using FX stuff in resolve) but for simple talking head videos and gaming videos even though i did almost fry it when building the system (didn't mount the cooler properly) and at some point dropped it besides that I've had no issues it was a great buy and im glad i didn't continue to use Intel.
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I remember in late 2019 I was looking for parts to build a new system and it was mostly your videos i watched for almost all of my parts, the 3700X cpu that i still use runs games very well today and edits videos moderately (it does lag when using FX stuff in resolve) but for simple talking head videos and gaming videos even though i did almost fry it when building the system (didn't mount the cooler properly) and at some point dropped it besides that I've had no issues it was a great buy and im glad i didn't continue to use Intel.
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iurigrang
It's important to realize that, although it's very easy to push these older chips beyond their capabilities with modern games, it's also very easy not to. There are still a lot of games out there where most GPUs and monitors would be the bottleneck way before even these older mid range CPUs would, so it's important to realize if you want to actually push for higher FPS, or if you want to BE ABLE TO push for higher FPS, even if the compromises would be too great to actually do it. The latter isn't much of a reason to upgrade.
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It's important to realize that, although it's very easy to push these older chips beyond their capabilities with modern games, it's also very easy not to. There are still a lot of games out there where most GPUs and monitors would be the bottleneck way before even these older mid range CPUs would, so it's important to realize if you want to actually push for higher FPS, or if you want to BE ABLE TO push for higher FPS, even if the compromises would be too great to actually do it. The latter isn't much of a reason to upgrade.
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Pijoto
I'm still slummin it with the AMD Ryzen 2700 overclocked to 3.9Ghz (got it bundled with a Motherboard at Microcenter for a whopping $150!!!), if you have low expectations, and don't mind playing in the 40fps range in some newer games, then there's no reason to upgrade at the moment. Good to see it still represented GamersNexus on their benchmarks though, definitely gives me upgrade envy seeing a 5800X3D more than doubling the 2700 performance on the same socket!
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I'm still slummin it with the AMD Ryzen 2700 overclocked to 3.9Ghz (got it bundled with a Motherboard at Microcenter for a whopping $150!!!), if you have low expectations, and don't mind playing in the 40fps range in some newer games, then there's no reason to upgrade at the moment. Good to see it still represented GamersNexus on their benchmarks though, definitely gives me upgrade envy seeing a 5800X3D more than doubling the 2700 performance on the same socket!
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unrelatedshark
I just moved my 3700x and 2060 super into a mini itx build that I can fit in my dorm. I chose to stick with AM4 since a new MBX3D chip would be over $600. The CPU holds up great in just about everything (but in all fairness i'm at a severe GPU bottleneck). I'm thinking of upgrading to a modern midrange GPU soon since it seems like the 3700x can handle it. I'm going to try and get another 6-12 months out of my 3700X before I upgrade to a 5700X3D.
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I just moved my 3700x and 2060 super into a mini itx build that I can fit in my dorm. I chose to stick with AM4 since a new MBX3D chip would be over $600. The CPU holds up great in just about everything (but in all fairness i'm at a severe GPU bottleneck). I'm thinking of upgrading to a modern midrange GPU soon since it seems like the 3700x can handle it. I'm going to try and get another 6-12 months out of my 3700X before I upgrade to a 5700X3D.
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poweruppikawho9007
I have a R9 3900x. I'm looking to build a new system from the ground up. Definitely have my eye on the 7800x3d, but I'm holding off buying it until I see what the 9000 has to offer in terms of performance and price. I'm leaning towards picking up a 9000 series during black friday/cyber monday sales, alongside a 4090 or a 5th gen geforce graphics card, again depending on price and performance, just for the sake of maximum future proofing.
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I have a R9 3900x. I'm looking to build a new system from the ground up. Definitely have my eye on the 7800x3d, but I'm holding off buying it until I see what the 9000 has to offer in terms of performance and price. I'm leaning towards picking up a 9000 series during black friday/cyber monday sales, alongside a 4090 or a 5th gen geforce graphics card, again depending on price and performance, just for the sake of maximum future proofing.
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DuncDog
Thanks GN Steve. This is why we keep telling HUB Steve to continue including at least the 5800X3D on their tests moving forward. AM4 is still under active support and has a LONG tail of potential CPUs to upgrade from, and with performance results like this, a $180 upgrade for a 5700X3D is INSANE on the same 8 year old socket, that is still getting new SKUs in 2024! Your data further proves that out.
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Thanks GN Steve. This is why we keep telling HUB Steve to continue including at least the 5800X3D on their tests moving forward. AM4 is still under active support and has a LONG tail of potential CPUs to upgrade from, and with performance results like this, a $180 upgrade for a 5700X3D is INSANE on the same 8 year old socket, that is still getting new SKUs in 2024! Your data further proves that out.
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ericschori5519
After watching possibly a bit too much Gamers Nexus content years ago I settled on a 3700x & 2070S build to drive a 120 Hz 3440 x 1440 monitor, and my bottleneck for performance has been . . . In May of 2024 needed another SSD due to game content bloat interacting with game library bloat. The component stack aged well, and so did the content that went into informing the build.
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After watching possibly a bit too much Gamers Nexus content years ago I settled on a 3700x & 2070S build to drive a 120 Hz 3440 x 1440 monitor, and my bottleneck for performance has been . . . In May of 2024 needed another SSD due to game content bloat interacting with game library bloat. The component stack aged well, and so did the content that went into informing the build.
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wolf16731
I've been very happy with my 3700X, but I'm not gonna lie.. the download speeds of some of the 5000 series systems I built for friends are making me jealous, but that could also be because my X370 is limited to PCIE Gen3 vs their Gen4 speeds. So if I do upgrade, it's gonna be to AM5 because I'll need Gen4 lanes or better to take advantage of that area. Otherwise I can't complain really.
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I've been very happy with my 3700X, but I'm not gonna lie.. the download speeds of some of the 5000 series systems I built for friends are making me jealous, but that could also be because my X370 is limited to PCIE Gen3 vs their Gen4 speeds. So if I do upgrade, it's gonna be to AM5 because I'll need Gen4 lanes or better to take advantage of that area. Otherwise I can't complain really.
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gamersnexus
I understand how a 5600G or 5700G are not considered great gaming CPU for their cache size and PCIE 3, but these chips were and are still popular amongst gamers who had to buy these chips because they were not able to buy a formal GPU. Therefore these CPUS would be great in your charts since these users probably now have access to some kind of GPU, whether it is high end or not.
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I understand how a 5600G or 5700G are not considered great gaming CPU for their cache size and PCIE 3, but these chips were and are still popular amongst gamers who had to buy these chips because they were not able to buy a formal GPU. Therefore these CPUS would be great in your charts since these users probably now have access to some kind of GPU, whether it is high end or not.
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Poorgeniu5
Rarely do I play the newest and shiniest games which really helps stretching my R5 3600's life but when I do play a new game, I can really feel the age especially playing Helldivers 2. However, lowering settings down is enough to reach my bare minimum of 30 FPS which makes the 5000 series an enticing upgrade but I can wait it out when I see deep deep discounts on eBay.
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Rarely do I play the newest and shiniest games which really helps stretching my R5 3600's life but when I do play a new game, I can really feel the age especially playing Helldivers 2. However, lowering settings down is enough to reach my bare minimum of 30 FPS which makes the 5000 series an enticing upgrade but I can wait it out when I see deep deep discounts on eBay.
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rbruch98
I love these retrospective pieces. While I don't know the actual impact of them, I feel as though it helps people pull back from the FOMO and consumerist mindset and evaluate in a more serious way what they have. Heck, Ive got a buddy who is still running my old i7-2600k (upgraded the ram, has it on SATA SSD's, upgraded to a RX580) - and he does production with it
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I love these retrospective pieces. While I don't know the actual impact of them, I feel as though it helps people pull back from the FOMO and consumerist mindset and evaluate in a more serious way what they have. Heck, Ive got a buddy who is still running my old i7-2600k (upgraded the ram, has it on SATA SSD's, upgraded to a RX580) - and he does production with it
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Stevo_1998
22:08 I'm still running a i7-7700k because it's still more than good enough for most of the games I'm playing (I gave up with AAA stuff years ago, and it's mostly been older stuff and indie titles)
I have friends with _much_ better builds than me, talking about 'needing' to upgrade because games run 'too slow' on their i5-12600k or 5900X or w/e lmao
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22:08 I'm still running a i7-7700k because it's still more than good enough for most of the games I'm playing (I gave up with AAA stuff years ago, and it's mostly been older stuff and indie titles)
I have friends with _much_ better builds than me, talking about 'needing' to upgrade because games run 'too slow' on their i5-12600k or 5900X or w/e lmao
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dragonbike471
i got the r9 7900x for $180 used on the local market and ehh idk my r7 5800x3d is still great lol tbh the r9 7900x is for my random cheap build. everything is used and its high end stuff. only storage and power supply are new ofc. Got the lian li o11 evo with corsair rgb fan hub all 10 fans installed for $50 for a case and the fans was a crazy deal.
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i got the r9 7900x for $180 used on the local market and ehh idk my r7 5800x3d is still great lol tbh the r9 7900x is for my random cheap build. everything is used and its high end stuff. only storage and power supply are new ofc. Got the lian li o11 evo with corsair rgb fan hub all 10 fans installed for $50 for a case and the fans was a crazy deal.
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StoneFlange
I love this update! I just upgraded my 1060 6GB to a 6700XT this January, but I still happily have a 3600. I really like the advice at the end of the video too! I have no software performance issues, so I probably won’t upgrade soon; however I can’t stop thinking about water cooling (this is likely where my upgrade money will go haha)!
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I love this update! I just upgraded my 1060 6GB to a 6700XT this January, but I still happily have a 3600. I really like the advice at the end of the video too! I have no software performance issues, so I probably won’t upgrade soon; however I can’t stop thinking about water cooling (this is likely where my upgrade money will go haha)!
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