RIP Intel: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU Review & Benchmarks vs. 7800X3D, 285K, 14900K, & More
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Date: 2024-11-06
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MarktheRude
Intel seems to be ankles deep in it, upside down. Yeah sure, they've still got some decent government contracts and whatnot keeping them afloat, but long term it's looking really darn iffy since that CPU debacle has cost their customers millions in all likelihood in terms of cancelled contracts. For example, we've had completely inexcusable issues with our brand-spanking new CT-machine at our hospital. I dug around, and came to conclusion that there's like a 90% chance of it having one of the cursed intel-CPU's in that setup. The crashes and issues were starting to become so frequent that hospital was starting to consider just nullifying the contract, citing poor SLA, meaning that Toshiba would end up eating shit for nearly a million euros.
Intel better make Battlemage magical in terms of cost/performance ratio or perform some miracle in regards to their CPU division.
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Intel seems to be ankles deep in it, upside down. Yeah sure, they've still got some decent government contracts and whatnot keeping them afloat, but long term it's looking really darn iffy since that CPU debacle has cost their customers millions in all likelihood in terms of cancelled contracts. For example, we've had completely inexcusable issues with our brand-spanking new CT-machine at our hospital. I dug around, and came to conclusion that there's like a 90% chance of it having one of the cursed intel-CPU's in that setup. The crashes and issues were starting to become so frequent that hospital was starting to consider just nullifying the contract, citing poor SLA, meaning that Toshiba would end up eating shit for nearly a million euros.
Intel better make Battlemage magical in terms of cost/performance ratio or perform some miracle in regards to their CPU division.
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Angel7black
Damn, im normally not impressed with AMD’s innovations that are usually just TSMC hard carrying with node shrinks. What theyre doing with X3D though, THAT’s innovation and its cool watching them optimize how the way they use and apply the 3D cache. If they could just give up on the dumbass core parking now on the Ryzen 9’s or make it use the non 3D cores for background tasks similar to the way e cores on Intel operate. Eitherway still definitely a huge W over Intel and i’m not some AMD fanboy that pretends everything they do is great or the best or they have no flaws. This is the BIGGEST reason to finally move to AM5 and Intel literally cannot compete right now
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Damn, im normally not impressed with AMD’s innovations that are usually just TSMC hard carrying with node shrinks. What theyre doing with X3D though, THAT’s innovation and its cool watching them optimize how the way they use and apply the 3D cache. If they could just give up on the dumbass core parking now on the Ryzen 9’s or make it use the non 3D cores for background tasks similar to the way e cores on Intel operate. Eitherway still definitely a huge W over Intel and i’m not some AMD fanboy that pretends everything they do is great or the best or they have no flaws. This is the BIGGEST reason to finally move to AM5 and Intel literally cannot compete right now
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TheRealHypervizor
I think you should retest the 7950x3D on a fresh H2 install with the latest agesa update. I can't remember exactly when but I saw a noticeable increase in performance a while back on my system. I'm saying this because those Baldur's Gate benchmarks don't match mine. I have a 3090 and I'm getting a way higher average at medium preset. Frame view captured 119 avg fps. Which would make sense given the 7800x3d got 126 in your test and I didn't do the exact scene you did for your benchmark. Actually I would encourage a retest for your entire BG3 findings. Those all seem lower than they should be. That's too big a difference in the 9800X3D.
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I think you should retest the 7950x3D on a fresh H2 install with the latest agesa update. I can't remember exactly when but I saw a noticeable increase in performance a while back on my system. I'm saying this because those Baldur's Gate benchmarks don't match mine. I have a 3090 and I'm getting a way higher average at medium preset. Frame view captured 119 avg fps. Which would make sense given the 7800x3d got 126 in your test and I didn't do the exact scene you did for your benchmark. Actually I would encourage a retest for your entire BG3 findings. Those all seem lower than they should be. That's too big a difference in the 9800X3D.
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namelessness42
Harder and harder to watch each series. You've started to sound more and more like dogging on one versus the other than sounding like you're providing consumer advice, this isn't meant as a rude comment but it is exhausting to constantly hear RIP this and that etc
The difference lies in the nuance that you seem to take pleasure in bad products, bad companies and bad practices. There's a fine line between warning about bad practices and becoming a soapbox, and you're moving into the latter at a pace that's exhausting as a viewer.
Just needed to get this off my chest. It's just my opinion and I know that. Have an awesome day!
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Harder and harder to watch each series. You've started to sound more and more like dogging on one versus the other than sounding like you're providing consumer advice, this isn't meant as a rude comment but it is exhausting to constantly hear RIP this and that etc
The difference lies in the nuance that you seem to take pleasure in bad products, bad companies and bad practices. There's a fine line between warning about bad practices and becoming a soapbox, and you're moving into the latter at a pace that's exhausting as a viewer.
Just needed to get this off my chest. It's just my opinion and I know that. Have an awesome day!
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tulsatrash
I would like Ginni Di to review these dice.
I would like Intel to do well enough in their bets on AI and Server that they can stay in business and compete in PC CPUs and eventually discreet graphics again.
I would like AMD to not rest on their laurels in the PC CPU space. And do their best to undercut Nvidia in the discreet GPU and AI markets.
I would like the Gamers Nexus crew to have a better work life balance.
I would like to thank everyone except for elements of Intel marketing and management for all their hard work.
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I would like Ginni Di to review these dice.
I would like Intel to do well enough in their bets on AI and Server that they can stay in business and compete in PC CPUs and eventually discreet graphics again.
I would like AMD to not rest on their laurels in the PC CPU space. And do their best to undercut Nvidia in the discreet GPU and AI markets.
I would like the Gamers Nexus crew to have a better work life balance.
I would like to thank everyone except for elements of Intel marketing and management for all their hard work.
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superbee1970
I watch ALL of your vids, thanks so much for taking the time to create and post these things! I'm not seeing how you can say the intel 200 series is a disaster when it was on the TOP of a LOT of these charts in this vid! #1 for many things, even with only HALF of the cores as the others in the lists where the 200 series was 1st! How is having a cpu that ranks #1 in many of your tests still be considered a disaster Again thnx for posting! Keep up the great work!
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I watch ALL of your vids, thanks so much for taking the time to create and post these things! I'm not seeing how you can say the intel 200 series is a disaster when it was on the TOP of a LOT of these charts in this vid! #1 for many things, even with only HALF of the cores as the others in the lists where the 200 series was 1st! How is having a cpu that ranks #1 in many of your tests still be considered a disaster Again thnx for posting! Keep up the great work!
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AbsolutTalent1
Why are there never any comparisons between the X3D chips at 1440p and 4k resolutions I can understand showing the complete throughput of a cpu when its not GPU limited by running at a lower resolution. But cant you show how much of a difference the X3D vs Non-X3D chips makes at higher resolutions If theres no real reason to use X3D vs a non at anything other than 1080p, then thats a valid purchase or not purchase point to make.
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Why are there never any comparisons between the X3D chips at 1440p and 4k resolutions I can understand showing the complete throughput of a cpu when its not GPU limited by running at a lower resolution. But cant you show how much of a difference the X3D vs Non-X3D chips makes at higher resolutions If theres no real reason to use X3D vs a non at anything other than 1080p, then thats a valid purchase or not purchase point to make.
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echoesyt
Back in the early 2000’s, I always said AMD was here to keep Intel honest. Not anymore. I have always been an intel customer, even though my last build was with an i7-3930k and my Samsung SSD 512 cost $512.00 new. I believe I will get the AMD 9800x3D for my new build. Thank you Steve. I have been out of the computer rig building game for 10 years now, and watching your informational videos has helped me get caught up really quick!!
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Back in the early 2000’s, I always said AMD was here to keep Intel honest. Not anymore. I have always been an intel customer, even though my last build was with an i7-3930k and my Samsung SSD 512 cost $512.00 new. I believe I will get the AMD 9800x3D for my new build. Thank you Steve. I have been out of the computer rig building game for 10 years now, and watching your informational videos has helped me get caught up really quick!!
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achinism
Dear silicon lords! This reminds me of the Athlon XP era domination, which I'd almost lost hopes of witnessing once again, especially after those brutal Bulldozer years! Making a beast of a gaming CPU has always been inside AMD's DNA, it's that they always manage to shoot themselves in the foot - look how they messed-up the launch of non-X3D parts! Hopefully we'll be able to see what Zen5 is truly capable of with upcoming 9950X3D.
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Dear silicon lords! This reminds me of the Athlon XP era domination, which I'd almost lost hopes of witnessing once again, especially after those brutal Bulldozer years! Making a beast of a gaming CPU has always been inside AMD's DNA, it's that they always manage to shoot themselves in the foot - look how they messed-up the launch of non-X3D parts! Hopefully we'll be able to see what Zen5 is truly capable of with upcoming 9950X3D.
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WhiteHawk77
Balders Gate 3, like Flight Simulator, clearly loves that extra cache, but whatever changes that are included with the swap in position this game must love that too.
I really wish you guys would include Flight Simulator in your tests, it might not have a built in benchmark, but it does have discovery flights that have some preset aspects that can easily be used to get a good idea of performance differences.
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Balders Gate 3, like Flight Simulator, clearly loves that extra cache, but whatever changes that are included with the swap in position this game must love that too.
I really wish you guys would include Flight Simulator in your tests, it might not have a built in benchmark, but it does have discovery flights that have some preset aspects that can easily be used to get a good idea of performance differences.
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DormantGames
I'll be honest, I was not expecting such a slaughter, I was waiting for quite a while for intel to release a new cpu and was excited hearing the 200 series about to post reviews, then immediately realised intel dropped the ball after watching the 200 series review, it's a shame, as now with 18 years of exclusively using intel CPUs, I am now moving onto AMD, that's crazy to me
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I'll be honest, I was not expecting such a slaughter, I was waiting for quite a while for intel to release a new cpu and was excited hearing the 200 series about to post reviews, then immediately realised intel dropped the ball after watching the 200 series review, it's a shame, as now with 18 years of exclusively using intel CPUs, I am now moving onto AMD, that's crazy to me
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Loki_Firegod
So, when the 9000 series was released and I said my next system will propably feature a 7000 series CPU unless AMD does really well with the new X3D stuff, they basically said we need to convince this guy to go for the new series and made it really good.
After all the chaos in the summer regarding CPUs, it's nice to see AMD at least partially got their cool back.
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So, when the 9000 series was released and I said my next system will propably feature a 7000 series CPU unless AMD does really well with the new X3D stuff, they basically said we need to convince this guy to go for the new series and made it really good.
After all the chaos in the summer regarding CPUs, it's nice to see AMD at least partially got their cool back.
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ClearAlera
I was so mad at Intel for so long for their purposeful stagnation and price gouging. I think this is the turning point where I actually start to feel bad for them. But AMD is still over here offering innovation and value so I'm still going with them. Upgrading my PC when the next generation GPUs are released, and this will be the CPU for it.
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I was so mad at Intel for so long for their purposeful stagnation and price gouging. I think this is the turning point where I actually start to feel bad for them. But AMD is still over here offering innovation and value so I'm still going with them. Upgrading my PC when the next generation GPUs are released, and this will be the CPU for it.
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mikebutler9332
You might want to consider flipping the x-axis on the delta USD/FPS chart. I know it's counter-intuitive from a data perspective but since most other plots have better towards the right and the point of reference is the value of the 9800X3D, it might be more natural to comprehend if it's presented with the negative values on the right.
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You might want to consider flipping the x-axis on the delta USD/FPS chart. I know it's counter-intuitive from a data perspective but since most other plots have better towards the right and the point of reference is the value of the 9800X3D, it might be more natural to comprehend if it's presented with the negative values on the right.
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arthurcuesta6041
So AMD did really want to focus on efficiency with the non-3D parts, huh I guess the failing Intel parts scared them to death. I thought it was a cover-up lie, but this sort of performance shows that had they pushed the power limit in the other SKU's, the whole product line would likely perform much better.
Thanks Steve.
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So AMD did really want to focus on efficiency with the non-3D parts, huh I guess the failing Intel parts scared them to death. I thought it was a cover-up lie, but this sort of performance shows that had they pushed the power limit in the other SKU's, the whole product line would likely perform much better.
Thanks Steve.
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DroolingDrilling
I really hope the 9950X3D has one CCD. All cores be X3D, that would be amazing. Could potentially give similar single core performance to 9800X3D whilst also giving near top productivity tasks benchmarks. A true best of both worlds CPU without the timing shenanigans of previous gen with the two CCDs.
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I really hope the 9950X3D has one CCD. All cores be X3D, that would be amazing. Could potentially give similar single core performance to 9800X3D whilst also giving near top productivity tasks benchmarks. A true best of both worlds CPU without the timing shenanigans of previous gen with the two CCDs.
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WardenOfSouls
i was always team blue and cause i do a lot of workload stuff i probably still am but i can only applaud AMD for the 7800x3d and this masterpiece. Insanely good Hardware. I just Hope Intel can recover and come back strong so we have a healthy competition in the market. Thanks for the detailed review!
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i was always team blue and cause i do a lot of workload stuff i probably still am but i can only applaud AMD for the 7800x3d and this masterpiece. Insanely good Hardware. I just Hope Intel can recover and come back strong so we have a healthy competition in the market. Thanks for the detailed review!
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allwet66
With the rumors of the 5090 performance uplift I can't wait to see this (9800x3d) paired with that (5090) and added to the charts - now i just need a bank with really poor security cause that combo is going to be both crazy good and crazy expensive. looking forward to those benchmarks already.
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With the rumors of the 5090 performance uplift I can't wait to see this (9800x3d) paired with that (5090) and added to the charts - now i just need a bank with really poor security cause that combo is going to be both crazy good and crazy expensive. looking forward to those benchmarks already.
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Elkarlo77
The King is dead, long live the King. The 9800X3D is a worthy successor of the 5800X3D and 7800X3D, which both are still viable processors today. While the Intels are Waffleirons. Upping the watts a little for more performance is not great but it is not like going from 105 Watts to 250 Watts.
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The King is dead, long live the King. The 9800X3D is a worthy successor of the 5800X3D and 7800X3D, which both are still viable processors today. While the Intels are Waffleirons. Upping the watts a little for more performance is not great but it is not like going from 105 Watts to 250 Watts.
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gamersnexus
Drowning your review in a sea of charts doesn't make it smarterit just makes it unreadable. There’s a fine line between insightful analysis and visual clutter. If you overload your audience with useless charts, you’ll see their eyes glaze over faster than a donut shop at closing time.
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Drowning your review in a sea of charts doesn't make it smarterit just makes it unreadable. There’s a fine line between insightful analysis and visual clutter. If you overload your audience with useless charts, you’ll see their eyes glaze over faster than a donut shop at closing time.
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