Redcore Linux Makes Gentoo User Friendly DistroTube
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Date: 2022-03-30
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Lorenzo
The benefits of Gentoo are the same things that force you to take a bit of time and figure things out. Any time you compile software on your own, it gives you choices, things you can leave out or pull in, but you need to inform yourself about the consequences of each choice you make. There's a tendency to either (1) assume you need everything and end up with a very fat distro, or (2) go minimal to the extreme. You can of course change your mind, but it can be annoying to realize you had some USE flags wrong and have to rebuild half the system, especially if you happen to be a KDE user, since that can take a while to build.
I think Gentoo is really cool for those who like to tinker a lot with their systems. I would probably not recommend it to people who just need a system to start using right away, not because Gentoo can't be a really solid system, but because of the above-mentioned need to think a bit before you start installing all your software.
For some oddball reason, recent versions of Anki require systemd (I really don't know why), so the next Gentoo system I set up, that's the init system I have to use. Not sure how stable it is on Gentoo, but there's only one way to find out. I might also just stay on Arch, since it works well for me.
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The benefits of Gentoo are the same things that force you to take a bit of time and figure things out. Any time you compile software on your own, it gives you choices, things you can leave out or pull in, but you need to inform yourself about the consequences of each choice you make. There's a tendency to either (1) assume you need everything and end up with a very fat distro, or (2) go minimal to the extreme. You can of course change your mind, but it can be annoying to realize you had some USE flags wrong and have to rebuild half the system, especially if you happen to be a KDE user, since that can take a while to build.
I think Gentoo is really cool for those who like to tinker a lot with their systems. I would probably not recommend it to people who just need a system to start using right away, not because Gentoo can't be a really solid system, but because of the above-mentioned need to think a bit before you start installing all your software.
For some oddball reason, recent versions of Anki require systemd (I really don't know why), so the next Gentoo system I set up, that's the init system I have to use. Not sure how stable it is on Gentoo, but there's only one way to find out. I might also just stay on Arch, since it works well for me.
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No
That-s all great, but i think people are missing the whole point of gentoo. It-s kinda similar to people just following arch install install guides when they don-t know what they-re doing. You might get through the install, but you-re basically recreating someone else-s setup. But gentoo is much more than that. Configuring the Linux kernel manually and configuring portage for your specific use case is pretty much the whole point of picking gentoo over something that-s pre-configured. When your install something like RedCore you might be happy that you-re now using gentoo while in reality using a pre-configured distribution of gentoo kinda defeats the whole purpose.
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That-s all great, but i think people are missing the whole point of gentoo. It-s kinda similar to people just following arch install install guides when they don-t know what they-re doing. You might get through the install, but you-re basically recreating someone else-s setup. But gentoo is much more than that. Configuring the Linux kernel manually and configuring portage for your specific use case is pretty much the whole point of picking gentoo over something that-s pre-configured. When your install something like RedCore you might be happy that you-re now using gentoo while in reality using a pre-configured distribution of gentoo kinda defeats the whole purpose.
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Braelin
I'm curious...
Would any real Gentoo users recommend trying out Redcore
if you wanted to try Gentoo, but were scared off
by the daunting install process, or if it would be better
to face the Gentoo experience head on right off the bat.
I remember being nervous of Archlinux when I first switched to Linux,
obviously using an Ubuntu derivative first. But after spending an
evening reading the Arch wiki and the official installation guide,
I found that simply jumping down the rabbit hole was well worth it.
So I'm curious if this methodology would apply well to Gentoo as well.
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I'm curious...
Would any real Gentoo users recommend trying out Redcore
if you wanted to try Gentoo, but were scared off
by the daunting install process, or if it would be better
to face the Gentoo experience head on right off the bat.
I remember being nervous of Archlinux when I first switched to Linux,
obviously using an Ubuntu derivative first. But after spending an
evening reading the Arch wiki and the official installation guide,
I found that simply jumping down the rabbit hole was well worth it.
So I'm curious if this methodology would apply well to Gentoo as well.
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Larry
How do you speed up system upgrades? I generally like Redcore, but it suffers from the same problem I've experienced with just about every Gentoo-based distro: doing a system update/upgrade is slow as hell. I realize that it compiles stuff in real time, but is there any way to speed it up? It's not as slow as, say, Sabayon, but it's kinda pokey. Right now I'm running it in a 16GB, six-core Virtualbox machine (the host system is running a Core i7 6-core 8700K); there's no reason a system upgrade/update should tie things up for two hours.
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How do you speed up system upgrades? I generally like Redcore, but it suffers from the same problem I've experienced with just about every Gentoo-based distro: doing a system update/upgrade is slow as hell. I realize that it compiles stuff in real time, but is there any way to speed it up? It's not as slow as, say, Sabayon, but it's kinda pokey. Right now I'm running it in a 16GB, six-core Virtualbox machine (the host system is running a Core i7 6-core 8700K); there's no reason a system upgrade/update should tie things up for two hours.
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Momo
there is Gobolinux is an intresting distro but is look marginalized there are few video about it and don't show much of it's usage same to source mage I didn't found a video about it but 2 videos of kiss linux
exerbo linux 1 video and has many lies
i only saw distrodtube talk about redcore
I feel this is a discrimination twoard those distros people can fine 50 videos
of unbuntu,arch,debian,kali,fedora,opensuse
But not much about.the distros i mentioned above
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there is Gobolinux is an intresting distro but is look marginalized there are few video about it and don't show much of it's usage same to source mage I didn't found a video about it but 2 videos of kiss linux
exerbo linux 1 video and has many lies
i only saw distrodtube talk about redcore
I feel this is a discrimination twoard those distros people can fine 50 videos
of unbuntu,arch,debian,kali,fedora,opensuse
But not much about.the distros i mentioned above
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Bat
I tested the old version of redcore, I liked what I saw. But the fact of not using systemd as the default for me is bad. As well as the available packages that you find scarce, and sometimes requires a lot of work to make it work. I've been using Arch Linux for about 15 years or so, and the fact that I want to use redcore is in its gentoo way, but I don't know if it's worth the switch. What is your opinion?
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I tested the old version of redcore, I liked what I saw. But the fact of not using systemd as the default for me is bad. As well as the available packages that you find scarce, and sometimes requires a lot of work to make it work. I've been using Arch Linux for about 15 years or so, and the fact that I want to use redcore is in its gentoo way, but I don't know if it's worth the switch. What is your opinion?
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Jay
Why don't people just make an installer that gets you to a working TTY login instead of these hyper-niche distros? I think the hangup for most average users is having to do the partitioning and setting up a bootloader but would be ok if you got them 80% there and let them install whatever desktop they want with some helpful guides on configuring each window manager.
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Why don't people just make an installer that gets you to a working TTY login instead of these hyper-niche distros? I think the hangup for most average users is having to do the partitioning and setting up a bootloader but would be ok if you got them 80% there and let them install whatever desktop they want with some helpful guides on configuring each window manager.
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Daniel
I installed Redcore because I couldn't seem to get everything working at the same time with Gentoo (I'm just not there yet). I like Redcore but I need to figure out how to get a tiling window manager on there. That Sisyphus thing doesn't have any and when I downloaded the DWM source, it worked but the SDDM login manager won't close after I select DWM.
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I installed Redcore because I couldn't seem to get everything working at the same time with Gentoo (I'm just not there yet). I like Redcore but I need to figure out how to get a tiling window manager on there. That Sisyphus thing doesn't have any and when I downloaded the DWM source, it worked but the SDDM login manager won't close after I select DWM.
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Polikarpov
Crap, I am too late. My laptop died just before starting the final exams, and didn't had time to deal with a normal installation to replace my Gentoo system in the new laptop when it arrived... Now I got Arch, but too much stuff installed wish I knew about Redcore back then, because it would had been just perfect for me.
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Crap, I am too late. My laptop died just before starting the final exams, and didn't had time to deal with a normal installation to replace my Gentoo system in the new laptop when it arrived... Now I got Arch, but too much stuff installed wish I knew about Redcore back then, because it would had been just perfect for me.
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Eugene
Wow yea at least 30 minutes 1099 apps etc. like sound, kernel, etc. Why they do not include these in the original setup maybe they figure out that it takes so long and it takes so much effort and patience that you will keep it as your daily distro. :-)
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Wow yea at least 30 minutes 1099 apps etc. like sound, kernel, etc. Why they do not include these in the original setup maybe they figure out that it takes so long and it takes so much effort and patience that you will keep it as your daily distro. :-)
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