A First Look At Elementary OS -Jolnir- DistroTube
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Date: 2022-03-30
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Al
I know everyone has an opinion and my not so humble opinion is that that this OS sucks. I installed it on a Dell XPS 9710 with plenty of RAM and the first thing it does.... hang... no logs are showing anything, it just throws a kernel panic. The mere fact that you cannot download this version without making a donation is also unbelievable and the first thing a new user will get faced with is apps that require payment. I am talking from a noob point of view.... We all need to make money but if you want to keep making money you better respond to cries for help. Starting up: No BT, no Wifi no sound... Kernel is ancient. Bah-Humbug. :-)
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I know everyone has an opinion and my not so humble opinion is that that this OS sucks. I installed it on a Dell XPS 9710 with plenty of RAM and the first thing it does.... hang... no logs are showing anything, it just throws a kernel panic. The mere fact that you cannot download this version without making a donation is also unbelievable and the first thing a new user will get faced with is apps that require payment. I am talking from a noob point of view.... We all need to make money but if you want to keep making money you better respond to cries for help. Starting up: No BT, no Wifi no sound... Kernel is ancient. Bah-Humbug. :-)
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Phanbot01
I love Elementary OS, even more than my own children. What grinds my gears is the main support for flatpaks. I much prefer to stick to the ubuntu deb files which require the user to type in the terminal -sudo apt install software-properties-common- to enable ppa support in the distro and unlocks access to all the software available in the ubuntu repositories. Not something the new user would have knowledge of and being clueless might just turn them off from using the distro.
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I love Elementary OS, even more than my own children. What grinds my gears is the main support for flatpaks. I much prefer to stick to the ubuntu deb files which require the user to type in the terminal -sudo apt install software-properties-common- to enable ppa support in the distro and unlocks access to all the software available in the ubuntu repositories. Not something the new user would have knowledge of and being clueless might just turn them off from using the distro.
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BrianDMS
So it's still completely unusable for beginners cause they'd have to add a flathub repository to the software store, which they won't know how to do, if they try to google it they'll probably start messing with the terminal and even if they get it working in the end, it'll still leave an impression that linux is simply unfinished and they should probably switch back to windows. Please don't recommend this garbage to any beginner until they address this issue.
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So it's still completely unusable for beginners cause they'd have to add a flathub repository to the software store, which they won't know how to do, if they try to google it they'll probably start messing with the terminal and even if they get it working in the end, it'll still leave an impression that linux is simply unfinished and they should probably switch back to windows. Please don't recommend this garbage to any beginner until they address this issue.
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exciting-burp
I'm not saying I do or do not agree, but the reason their app store is so curated is because they want the highly consistent experience you get on Mac OS (they have documentation on standards you have to follow). There's a lot of things that Linux does best, but desktop consistency is very far from one of those things.
I think that one major distro pushing for consistency is a very good thing, but I'm not sure if their approach is correct.
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I'm not saying I do or do not agree, but the reason their app store is so curated is because they want the highly consistent experience you get on Mac OS (they have documentation on standards you have to follow). There's a lot of things that Linux does best, but desktop consistency is very far from one of those things.
I think that one major distro pushing for consistency is a very good thing, but I'm not sure if their approach is correct.
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Vince
Why DT why? We don't need another fork of a distro? Why? Richard Stallman's GNU was fantastic for its time. Well times have changed and GNU needs updating to limit and completely eliminate many of these forks and desktops, like Gnome. Please maintainers call it a day. C'mon man. All these distros are preventing GNU/Linux from becoming mainstream with a huge market share rather than failing as all indicators or suggesting. Why?
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Why DT why? We don't need another fork of a distro? Why? Richard Stallman's GNU was fantastic for its time. Well times have changed and GNU needs updating to limit and completely eliminate many of these forks and desktops, like Gnome. Please maintainers call it a day. C'mon man. All these distros are preventing GNU/Linux from becoming mainstream with a huge market share rather than failing as all indicators or suggesting. Why?
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At
You can --shift+enter-- to open in a new tab, it even said in the context menu.
regarding flat hub, I think they should add a page in the installation settings with a check box that says -install flat hub repository by default- with a it of description of what are flatpack under it for new users, that way, you just check the box and the first time you open the software centre, they're just there.
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You can --shift+enter-- to open in a new tab, it even said in the context menu.
regarding flat hub, I think they should add a page in the installation settings with a check box that says -install flat hub repository by default- with a it of description of what are flatpack under it for new users, that way, you just check the box and the first time you open the software centre, they're just there.
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n1vz3r
Elementary team has their own special way of doing things. Their theme was the best in 2010, back in Gnome 2 days, but after Gnome 3 they decided to create a different DE (as everyone else did). They aimto create mac-like experience both in polish and usability, ambitious goal, aren't there yet but probably they will get there
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Elementary team has their own special way of doing things. Their theme was the best in 2010, back in Gnome 2 days, but after Gnome 3 they decided to create a different DE (as everyone else did). They aimto create mac-like experience both in polish and usability, ambitious goal, aren't there yet but probably they will get there
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Jonathon
I dont get this ?philosophy? at all.
We aren't going to include pretty much any apps in our repository. Even the really really popular ones that linux newbs have heard about and have millions of installs. But we will link to flatpack.
Also could they not add the ubuntu repository? since they are based on ubuntu?
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I dont get this ?philosophy? at all.
We aren't going to include pretty much any apps in our repository. Even the really really popular ones that linux newbs have heard about and have millions of installs. But we will link to flatpack.
Also could they not add the ubuntu repository? since they are based on ubuntu?
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Tato-Chip
elementary OS devs are also working on an OSTREE based image. That means the system will rely even more on flatpaks for anything that is not part of the system.
Using it on fedora silverblue currently is not bad in my opinion. There are annoying things about it though.
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elementary OS devs are also working on an OSTREE based image. That means the system will rely even more on flatpaks for anything that is not part of the system.
Using it on fedora silverblue currently is not bad in my opinion. There are annoying things about it though.
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obsidian115
You should probably stop recommending elementary to new users. It's not new user friendly (untrusted apps, non-curated apps, and bla bla confusion) and it's unlike Windows in its looks and behaviour (where most newbies are coming from).
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You should probably stop recommending elementary to new users. It's not new user friendly (untrusted apps, non-curated apps, and bla bla confusion) and it's unlike Windows in its looks and behaviour (where most newbies are coming from).
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