Brave Affiliate Scandal! Should YOU Care? - Techlore
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Date: 2022-04-15
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Green
This was a nothingburger. In one of your videos I believe you pointed out that Brave may have to eventually make enrolling in BAT/Binance mandatory in order for the project to be self-sustaining since the company needs to make money. Well take away affiliate links and that possibility becomes more of a reality regardless if Brave shows it's own ads or not. Ads and affiliate links are not a bad thing since even people like Brendan Eich and the people at Brave, Inc have to eat. You might have a point this should have been disclosed up front but ultimately it is intellectually dishonest to think you or anyone can have their cake and eat it too (pun intended. Eich is doing his best to provide a top notch browser and I think he has largely succeeded. In my view, any negative issues like this are far outweighed by the positives of his product. In short, I suggest you keep/go back to Brave.
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This was a nothingburger. In one of your videos I believe you pointed out that Brave may have to eventually make enrolling in BAT/Binance mandatory in order for the project to be self-sustaining since the company needs to make money. Well take away affiliate links and that possibility becomes more of a reality regardless if Brave shows it's own ads or not. Ads and affiliate links are not a bad thing since even people like Brendan Eich and the people at Brave, Inc have to eat. You might have a point this should have been disclosed up front but ultimately it is intellectually dishonest to think you or anyone can have their cake and eat it too (pun intended. Eich is doing his best to provide a top notch browser and I think he has largely succeeded. In my view, any negative issues like this are far outweighed by the positives of his product. In short, I suggest you keep/go back to Brave.
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mike
I'm definitely in the drop Brave camp. I believe that when I hit the enter key when typing the URL that is the END of input. Giving Brave a pass on this 'normalizes'such behavior. This method could be used in many dodgy ways. For example, redirecting you to a similar site you requested but that carried biased or fake news, reviews and so on. Braves example may have been more benign than that but as I said, it could begin the path to normalizing it. Brave needs more than a slap on the wrist for this and their grudging mea culpa (if indeed the mealy mouthed apology was any admission of wrong doing at all. I never took to Brave because I never liked the affiliate model. I thought it too open to manipulation. It seems I was right.
I use Bromite on Android and a bare bones and hardened Firefox on my desktop.
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I'm definitely in the drop Brave camp. I believe that when I hit the enter key when typing the URL that is the END of input. Giving Brave a pass on this 'normalizes'such behavior. This method could be used in many dodgy ways. For example, redirecting you to a similar site you requested but that carried biased or fake news, reviews and so on. Braves example may have been more benign than that but as I said, it could begin the path to normalizing it. Brave needs more than a slap on the wrist for this and their grudging mea culpa (if indeed the mealy mouthed apology was any admission of wrong doing at all. I never took to Brave because I never liked the affiliate model. I thought it too open to manipulation. It seems I was right.
I use Bromite on Android and a bare bones and hardened Firefox on my desktop.
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TheKid
It seems that many who believe that the Brave Rewards should be retained are saying something to the effect of, -what Brave did doesn't effect the privacy of the user and the revenue doesn't look to have affected your transparency with them so you should keep it. --
To stay completely intellectually honest you should drop the Brave Rewards. If this scandal is enough for you to drop the browser on a moral level then continuing to make revenue from it doesn't line up with that moral decision. If you had decided to continue to use the browser then I believe that the above position that many have espoused would be right on target.
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It seems that many who believe that the Brave Rewards should be retained are saying something to the effect of, -what Brave did doesn't effect the privacy of the user and the revenue doesn't look to have affected your transparency with them so you should keep it. --
To stay completely intellectually honest you should drop the Brave Rewards. If this scandal is enough for you to drop the browser on a moral level then continuing to make revenue from it doesn't line up with that moral decision. If you had decided to continue to use the browser then I believe that the above position that many have espoused would be right on target.
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david
My problem with Brave is that my private websites are all listed in my Brave Privacy Report. Sure, I can delete them, but they were collected in the first place, and, even if I turn off the report, there's no reason to believe Brave isn't being sent the info. So, Brave makes a record on my device and likely has one of their own. Don't you think that's a pretty big trust issue, too?
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My problem with Brave is that my private websites are all listed in my Brave Privacy Report. Sure, I can delete them, but they were collected in the first place, and, even if I turn off the report, there's no reason to believe Brave isn't being sent the info. So, Brave makes a record on my device and likely has one of their own. Don't you think that's a pretty big trust issue, too?
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Shiny_Lorelei
I'm sticking with Firefox. But I don't mind that you keep the Brave Rewards. They have some credits. They did a lot of good things too. And it's still a step forward for people who were previously using Chrome. So I am very much okay with it that you use this for your business. You don't even need to ask us. If you just tell us and explain, that's also fine.
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I'm sticking with Firefox. But I don't mind that you keep the Brave Rewards. They have some credits. They did a lot of good things too. And it's still a step forward for people who were previously using Chrome. So I am very much okay with it that you use this for your business. You don't even need to ask us. If you just tell us and explain, that's also fine.
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Shi
Hi seriously checkout AdBank ADB Chrome / Firefox addon for crytpo rewards and adblocker called Blade. 400k market cap, so far more room to grow than BAT.
Techlore you're missing additional revenue by not auto uploading your videos to LBRY. You should be using LBRY as a backup / alternative. Seriously have a look at LBRY if haven't as yet.
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Hi seriously checkout AdBank ADB Chrome / Firefox addon for crytpo rewards and adblocker called Blade. 400k market cap, so far more room to grow than BAT.
Techlore you're missing additional revenue by not auto uploading your videos to LBRY. You should be using LBRY as a backup / alternative. Seriously have a look at LBRY if haven't as yet.
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itech
i think it's a bit hypocritical and pretentious to complain about this when you are accepting funding through the same system, yes it should of been transparent and i'm grateful for your efforts in pointing this out BUT remember wherever you find humans there will always be some form of corruption lurking in a corner somewhere.
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i think it's a bit hypocritical and pretentious to complain about this when you are accepting funding through the same system, yes it should of been transparent and i'm grateful for your efforts in pointing this out BUT remember wherever you find humans there will always be some form of corruption lurking in a corner somewhere.
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Stray
I never trusted them. The fact that they implemented the -Brave Rewards- app and the Brave Shield in the way that they can't be removed from the browser is a red flag to me. Why not making them as optional extensions? Even if they were clean as a whistle, I can't support that kind of attitude.
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I never trusted them. The fact that they implemented the -Brave Rewards- app and the Brave Shield in the way that they can't be removed from the browser is a red flag to me. Why not making them as optional extensions? Even if they were clean as a whistle, I can't support that kind of attitude.
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Ahriman13
I-m using Brave since 1-2 years and been always happy with it but I totally agree that they have to let us know anything is happening behind the scene cause trust is way more important anything else. For me 1 more fishy thing and I-m done with Brave.
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I-m using Brave since 1-2 years and been always happy with it but I totally agree that they have to let us know anything is happening behind the scene cause trust is way more important anything else. For me 1 more fishy thing and I-m done with Brave.
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Francisca
WELL, if they are THAT money hungry and are willing to act surreptitiously to get it, whats to stop them from selling out to big tech when they come a knocking? I've JUST started using Brave yesterday and now Im not so sure I will stick with it!
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WELL, if they are THAT money hungry and are willing to act surreptitiously to get it, whats to stop them from selling out to big tech when they come a knocking? I've JUST started using Brave yesterday and now Im not so sure I will stick with it!
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