How Heavy Should You Lift to Get Big (HOW MUCH WEIGHT)
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Date: 2022-04-22
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Comments and reviews: 10
Quentin
Hmmm, I've been inundated with all the -controversy- videos about Jeff's deadlift then this video popped up, and I'm glad it did. I'd commented on the videos of the -controversialists- that there was nothing to see and they should move on, but I'd just taken their word about the context of the deadlift itself. I'd seen Jeff's original video, but had completely forgotten the context, so I'm glad it came back up in my feed. If you were to believe the sayers of nay, they would have you believe that Jeff was bragging about how strong he was and that he could easily handle 500 lb deadlifts. But, in watching the source, and hence the context, it's the opposite. Jeff was making the point about how hard this lift was for him, and how poor he felt his posture was, and that he'd likely back down from it. So, for me, after watching the progression of weight and the point he was making, it became even more clear that Jeff really lifted the weight (the haters' clips were clearly poorly thought through, and made some good points in along the way.
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Hmmm, I've been inundated with all the -controversy- videos about Jeff's deadlift then this video popped up, and I'm glad it did. I'd commented on the videos of the -controversialists- that there was nothing to see and they should move on, but I'd just taken their word about the context of the deadlift itself. I'd seen Jeff's original video, but had completely forgotten the context, so I'm glad it came back up in my feed. If you were to believe the sayers of nay, they would have you believe that Jeff was bragging about how strong he was and that he could easily handle 500 lb deadlifts. But, in watching the source, and hence the context, it's the opposite. Jeff was making the point about how hard this lift was for him, and how poor he felt his posture was, and that he'd likely back down from it. So, for me, after watching the progression of weight and the point he was making, it became even more clear that Jeff really lifted the weight (the haters' clips were clearly poorly thought through, and made some good points in along the way.
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Kyle
In order to diffuse the drama and hopefully ease the tentions that have been going on, first thing, the TRUTH behind the situation. Had Jeff been using the actual weight that was labeled on the plates, he WOULD have injured himself in some way. He used the false plates in order to demonstrate the form break-down as the weight increased. Plain and simple. Second, he even mentioned he's got -these weird 44 pound plates. - The inflection of how that was stated might not have come across with the voice-over, which is understandable. I honestly believe Jeff orchestrated this video the way he did purely for demonstration's sake. Could the situation aftermath have been handled a little bit better? Of course, but there was no reason for the amount of animosity from this drama.
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In order to diffuse the drama and hopefully ease the tentions that have been going on, first thing, the TRUTH behind the situation. Had Jeff been using the actual weight that was labeled on the plates, he WOULD have injured himself in some way. He used the false plates in order to demonstrate the form break-down as the weight increased. Plain and simple. Second, he even mentioned he's got -these weird 44 pound plates. - The inflection of how that was stated might not have come across with the voice-over, which is understandable. I honestly believe Jeff orchestrated this video the way he did purely for demonstration's sake. Could the situation aftermath have been handled a little bit better? Of course, but there was no reason for the amount of animosity from this drama.
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larsulrik1
I've only been watching Jeff for a few weeks but you can just tell he's an honest and humble guy who knows a lot about the subject. I didn't know anything about -the controversy- so I looked it up. From what I've seen, Jeff has made like 1000 videos that are amount-of-weight-irrelevant and more specifically how-much-Jeff-can-lift-irrelevant. Why would this 1 video be the one where he tried to deceive everyone? To what end? This reminds me of the Mom and Pop Seinfeld episode.
Kramer: It was all an act, Jerry. They conned us, and they scored, big time.
Elaine: So. Mom and Pop's plan was to move into the neighborhood, establish trust for 48 years, and then, run off with Jerry's sneakers. -
Kramer: Apparently.
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I've only been watching Jeff for a few weeks but you can just tell he's an honest and humble guy who knows a lot about the subject. I didn't know anything about -the controversy- so I looked it up. From what I've seen, Jeff has made like 1000 videos that are amount-of-weight-irrelevant and more specifically how-much-Jeff-can-lift-irrelevant. Why would this 1 video be the one where he tried to deceive everyone? To what end? This reminds me of the Mom and Pop Seinfeld episode.
Kramer: It was all an act, Jerry. They conned us, and they scored, big time.
Elaine: So. Mom and Pop's plan was to move into the neighborhood, establish trust for 48 years, and then, run off with Jerry's sneakers. -
Kramer: Apparently.
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Raphael
After all the discussion about fake weight, I clearly understand on this video that Jeff show us an example of his purpose. And as an example, it doesn't mean it's the reality. Talking us about 500 lbs is only to give us a number close to a serious number that a lot of Sunday lifter couldn't never attempt but I clearly understand he take this number to impact the demonstration. So ok, it's clearly fake weights but it's all about teaching us that over trust of ourselves during a session is very dangerous and we all know what's it means: wrong position, pain, trouble. Whatever thinks far and not only on what you see, keep going Jeff no need to explain the reason you do that, it's easy to understand.
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After all the discussion about fake weight, I clearly understand on this video that Jeff show us an example of his purpose. And as an example, it doesn't mean it's the reality. Talking us about 500 lbs is only to give us a number close to a serious number that a lot of Sunday lifter couldn't never attempt but I clearly understand he take this number to impact the demonstration. So ok, it's clearly fake weights but it's all about teaching us that over trust of ourselves during a session is very dangerous and we all know what's it means: wrong position, pain, trouble. Whatever thinks far and not only on what you see, keep going Jeff no need to explain the reason you do that, it's easy to understand.
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Bloqqol
He probably just added fake plates to show the wrong way to do an exercise without injuring himself. He's using it for demonstration purposes only and the way he mentions those -weird 44 plates- sounded a bit like he's aware of them being fake and just letting other more experienced gym goers know that he knows they are fake. The guy is obviously brutally fit so why bother looking into whether or not the weights are fake in what is essentially a -tutorial- where serious injuries are very possible.
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He probably just added fake plates to show the wrong way to do an exercise without injuring himself. He's using it for demonstration purposes only and the way he mentions those -weird 44 plates- sounded a bit like he's aware of them being fake and just letting other more experienced gym goers know that he knows they are fake. The guy is obviously brutally fit so why bother looking into whether or not the weights are fake in what is essentially a -tutorial- where serious injuries are very possible.
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Lawrence
So this is the controversial video(made 4 years ago. Well from what i see, he does not claim that he can really lift 500 pounds. He is using the 500 pounds as a representation of his limits and a way to teach. The first 3 or 4 plates are definitely real as i see, and he was clearly stressing that 4th one. The last one is the fake one it seems. Anyway even if he does not address it, it doesnt matter. He is still giving great advises
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So this is the controversial video(made 4 years ago. Well from what i see, he does not claim that he can really lift 500 pounds. He is using the 500 pounds as a representation of his limits and a way to teach. The first 3 or 4 plates are definitely real as i see, and he was clearly stressing that 4th one. The last one is the fake one it seems. Anyway even if he does not address it, it doesnt matter. He is still giving great advises
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Martin
lol why do you guys think that a guy with what - 20 yrs of training cant possiblly do 180kg for 3-4 reps without slaming the weight like a dumbass and actually control it all the way down and obviously we see that 5 plates is too much for him and his technique is breaking down. you dont know how he is training and how he is periodizing his training but you are 100% sure that there is no way he can control 200 the way he does?
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lol why do you guys think that a guy with what - 20 yrs of training cant possiblly do 180kg for 3-4 reps without slaming the weight like a dumbass and actually control it all the way down and obviously we see that 5 plates is too much for him and his technique is breaking down. you dont know how he is training and how he is periodizing his training but you are 100% sure that there is no way he can control 200 the way he does?
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Bryan
I'm not sure the controversy is even valid here. He's demoing how form and technique break down under heavier load. That means he's intentionally using less than perfect form. I guess he could actually put his back at risk and cripple his knees for people's entertainment, but what makes more sense is to present hypothetical scenarios and show what this would look like while staying safe weight ranges.
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I'm not sure the controversy is even valid here. He's demoing how form and technique break down under heavier load. That means he's intentionally using less than perfect form. I guess he could actually put his back at risk and cripple his knees for people's entertainment, but what makes more sense is to present hypothetical scenarios and show what this would look like while staying safe weight ranges.
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Tony
Regardless of the fake weight controversy, I would recommend to anyone doing deadlifts to use wraps with anything above 3 plates. The Bicep can tear easy when using a switch grip, seen way to videos of it happening when people lift heavy, or just use a hex bar deadlift which is the absolute safest way to do a deadlift since the weight is more centered over your body and you are using a neutral grip.
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Regardless of the fake weight controversy, I would recommend to anyone doing deadlifts to use wraps with anything above 3 plates. The Bicep can tear easy when using a switch grip, seen way to videos of it happening when people lift heavy, or just use a hex bar deadlift which is the absolute safest way to do a deadlift since the weight is more centered over your body and you are using a neutral grip.
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WhiteCrow
LOL all this backstabbing btches returning to hate on Jeff. We aren-t fanboys, we watch his videos not for his lifting feats, but for his knowledge on human anatomy and the fundamental ways to do the best exercises that are safe and effective. Hate all you want. just know all you-re doing is jumping onto a hate bandwagon that is hypocritically.
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LOL all this backstabbing btches returning to hate on Jeff. We aren-t fanboys, we watch his videos not for his lifting feats, but for his knowledge on human anatomy and the fundamental ways to do the best exercises that are safe and effective. Hate all you want. just know all you-re doing is jumping onto a hate bandwagon that is hypocritically.
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