Deadlifts are KILLING Your Gains (OH SH-T)
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Date: 2022-04-22
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neil
Awesome! I saw a guy who weighed 60kg in the gym and he developed spinal stenosis, because the Personal trainer said - at your size, you should be able to deadlift 2. 05 times your weight on deadlift, approximately 130kg and your squat should be 110kg and no less, as it is not enough stimulus - safe to say the guy caused this beginner to have some form of incontinence. He frequently lost control of his bladder and bowel movements which won't go away after 1 month of bad handling. The guy, in question who was 60kg was only 24 years old. Now he is messed up in his confidence, doesn't really exercise at all and has every right to be pissed. This was in the local gym. Why do so many PT's suggest men should be lifting double your bodyweight first time? Yeah, the guy was a first time gym goer trying to better himself. Now he don't even try and lift or do exercise. Which in my opinion, why a gym is not the be all and end all. Actually can be a hindrance, If you have these types of PT's. Why would you expect perfect form with too heavy a weight? Can someone explain the theory behind this. As I've always said, form comes before chasing numbers. How can you build form, if you were 60kg and being told your size should happily lift in the or above 130kg region for a deadlift? When you are clearly lifting too heavy, Why would a PT not mention your form? I believe, his stenosis was caused by this entirely wrong - your size should be lifting x+x - I can also see, why it puts people off. 1 bad experience is often enough. Amazing video's, by the way.
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Awesome! I saw a guy who weighed 60kg in the gym and he developed spinal stenosis, because the Personal trainer said - at your size, you should be able to deadlift 2. 05 times your weight on deadlift, approximately 130kg and your squat should be 110kg and no less, as it is not enough stimulus - safe to say the guy caused this beginner to have some form of incontinence. He frequently lost control of his bladder and bowel movements which won't go away after 1 month of bad handling. The guy, in question who was 60kg was only 24 years old. Now he is messed up in his confidence, doesn't really exercise at all and has every right to be pissed. This was in the local gym. Why do so many PT's suggest men should be lifting double your bodyweight first time? Yeah, the guy was a first time gym goer trying to better himself. Now he don't even try and lift or do exercise. Which in my opinion, why a gym is not the be all and end all. Actually can be a hindrance, If you have these types of PT's. Why would you expect perfect form with too heavy a weight? Can someone explain the theory behind this. As I've always said, form comes before chasing numbers. How can you build form, if you were 60kg and being told your size should happily lift in the or above 130kg region for a deadlift? When you are clearly lifting too heavy, Why would a PT not mention your form? I believe, his stenosis was caused by this entirely wrong - your size should be lifting x+x - I can also see, why it puts people off. 1 bad experience is often enough. Amazing video's, by the way.
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Tony
I find deadlifts very good at generating strength and mass, as well as boosting testosterone. The thing that makes deadlifts dangerous is the form. Most DL you see are of the -arms wider than the knees- kind. This is dangerous because a person has to bend over more, thus risking the lower back. But I do the -arms inside knees type, where I spread my legs farther, with my arms at shoulder width directly beneath me. This allows me to erect my torso while squatted, then keeping the torso in an upright position, I use my glutes and quads to lift, while my lower back remains upright.
Works great, no sore lower back after my workouts.
Another way to deadlift which targets more the legs, is the dumbbell deadlift. Standing in the middle with the weights (as heavy as you can) at your sides. This the safest form I've found
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I find deadlifts very good at generating strength and mass, as well as boosting testosterone. The thing that makes deadlifts dangerous is the form. Most DL you see are of the -arms wider than the knees- kind. This is dangerous because a person has to bend over more, thus risking the lower back. But I do the -arms inside knees type, where I spread my legs farther, with my arms at shoulder width directly beneath me. This allows me to erect my torso while squatted, then keeping the torso in an upright position, I use my glutes and quads to lift, while my lower back remains upright.
Works great, no sore lower back after my workouts.
Another way to deadlift which targets more the legs, is the dumbbell deadlift. Standing in the middle with the weights (as heavy as you can) at your sides. This the safest form I've found
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Frostbitevinnie
Hey Jeff. Hopefully you see this question and have time to respond. Im 57, have had 3 knee surgeries, and ride enduro motorcycles. I drop the bike often and have to pick it up by having my butt on the seat, grabbing what I can, and lift. This is sorta a deadlift but weight behind as opposed to in front. I have adopted this form of deadlift, weight behind ankles, into my routine. I use lighter weight, 100#, and more reps.
My question is do you think this lift is good and safe for this old man? I have noticed less strain in my lower back and this form seems to focus more on my quads and glutes.
Thanks!
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Hey Jeff. Hopefully you see this question and have time to respond. Im 57, have had 3 knee surgeries, and ride enduro motorcycles. I drop the bike often and have to pick it up by having my butt on the seat, grabbing what I can, and lift. This is sorta a deadlift but weight behind as opposed to in front. I have adopted this form of deadlift, weight behind ankles, into my routine. I use lighter weight, 100#, and more reps.
My question is do you think this lift is good and safe for this old man? I have noticed less strain in my lower back and this form seems to focus more on my quads and glutes.
Thanks!
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Jon
The deadlift for me is one of those challenge exercises that I need to stop doing, at least how I think. My brain always says -come on, you can do X amount of weight-. I need to learn that not everything is a challenge like that. I'm getting great gains with it. I love doing it. However, today I challenged myself like that. I did a good high weight. But my last rep of 1 lift felt like my left eye was going to pop out of my head. I put the weight down and had to lean against the bar for about 45 seconds while I recouped.
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The deadlift for me is one of those challenge exercises that I need to stop doing, at least how I think. My brain always says -come on, you can do X amount of weight-. I need to learn that not everything is a challenge like that. I'm getting great gains with it. I love doing it. However, today I challenged myself like that. I did a good high weight. But my last rep of 1 lift felt like my left eye was going to pop out of my head. I put the weight down and had to lean against the bar for about 45 seconds while I recouped.
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blg020
I have a work related lower back injury from years ago. Just got back into weight lifting a couple of months ago and every time I deadlift, the days after my lower back hurts so bad I cant work out or even put on my shoes for a week or more. I switched to power cleans a few weeks ago and it doesn't cause extreme pain the days after. I'll revisit deadlifts in a few weeks and if it trashes my back again I'm just going to eliminate them from my workouts for good.
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I have a work related lower back injury from years ago. Just got back into weight lifting a couple of months ago and every time I deadlift, the days after my lower back hurts so bad I cant work out or even put on my shoes for a week or more. I switched to power cleans a few weeks ago and it doesn't cause extreme pain the days after. I'll revisit deadlifts in a few weeks and if it trashes my back again I'm just going to eliminate them from my workouts for good.
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Tommyboy
That-s incorrect by that guy. Jalen hurts place for the Philadelphia eagles just did a video where he was dead lifting 650 pounds. So this guy doesn-t know shit about the NFL. Stick to what you know. If not doing deadlifts worked for you than awesome but don-t say the NFL players don-t dead left because I have video proof that you-re lying. And let me be clear I don-t dead lift I do rack deadlifts, Dorian Yates style who had one of the greatest backs ever
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That-s incorrect by that guy. Jalen hurts place for the Philadelphia eagles just did a video where he was dead lifting 650 pounds. So this guy doesn-t know shit about the NFL. Stick to what you know. If not doing deadlifts worked for you than awesome but don-t say the NFL players don-t dead left because I have video proof that you-re lying. And let me be clear I don-t dead lift I do rack deadlifts, Dorian Yates style who had one of the greatest backs ever
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Mirror
im 27 and never done a deadlift. I never even went in a gym until 21 i was kinda a nerd. I want to learn deadlifts, but ive had abdominal hernia surgery so ill prolly be the guy lifting like 2x 25 plates working on form and stability vs large weight. thats one of the only excersizes ive never tried because im scared ill rip my abs back open. Ill look up jeffs tutorial. Any other recommendations for beginners?
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im 27 and never done a deadlift. I never even went in a gym until 21 i was kinda a nerd. I want to learn deadlifts, but ive had abdominal hernia surgery so ill prolly be the guy lifting like 2x 25 plates working on form and stability vs large weight. thats one of the only excersizes ive never tried because im scared ill rip my abs back open. Ill look up jeffs tutorial. Any other recommendations for beginners?
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J11148
Agree - Been lifting around 7 years and just tweaked my lower back doing my third set of deadlifts last week. Can hardly tie my shoes now. If you-re taller I would highly suggest using something to bring the weight off the ground a bit. The gym I was at does not allow for dropping the weights (as like in a CF gym. I think that had a lot to do with it. Be careful with deadlifts.
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Agree - Been lifting around 7 years and just tweaked my lower back doing my third set of deadlifts last week. Can hardly tie my shoes now. If you-re taller I would highly suggest using something to bring the weight off the ground a bit. The gym I was at does not allow for dropping the weights (as like in a CF gym. I think that had a lot to do with it. Be careful with deadlifts.
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DEG
The best reason to do deadlifts is it is the number 1 recommended exercise to prevent ED as in erectile dysfunction. I shit you not. 40% of American men starting at age 40 (and it only gets worse from age stats show) suffer from ED. As a matter of fact American men lead the world in ED. I shall continue to do them. I am 65 yrs and have no health issues especially no ED.
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The best reason to do deadlifts is it is the number 1 recommended exercise to prevent ED as in erectile dysfunction. I shit you not. 40% of American men starting at age 40 (and it only gets worse from age stats show) suffer from ED. As a matter of fact American men lead the world in ED. I shall continue to do them. I am 65 yrs and have no health issues especially no ED.
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Charles
I have to disagree with Oberst. I do hex bar deadlifts with a farmers walk as a superset and it just kills. If compound movements are the foundations of exercise why would you ever not include the deadlift? It's the compound movement that hits the most areas of the body. Just don't ego lift and use a safe weight that you can handle for the sets you are doing.
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I have to disagree with Oberst. I do hex bar deadlifts with a farmers walk as a superset and it just kills. If compound movements are the foundations of exercise why would you ever not include the deadlift? It's the compound movement that hits the most areas of the body. Just don't ego lift and use a safe weight that you can handle for the sets you are doing.
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