Are gated communities bad for cities?
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Date: 2019-09-12
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chris gast
Are gated communities bad for cities? Perhaps in certain ways, yes. It could very well explain the lack of social skills in today's world that may have gotten worse over time. Other ways, maybe not. Initially, I always understood gated communities were to protect them from bad outside entities - whether it was gangs or mafias. Little did I realize that it was much more than that. Is it more bad than good? I somewhat think so, yes. Why? Because it appears to me that such concept would seem to encourage division of people even when it's not warranted. Same goes for condo villages - even if they are not gated. This is particularly why I no longer like such concepts. They encourage division among people, even when it's not necessary. They encourage people to develop snotty attitudes and behaviors just because of where they live. If they fear for their lives, then maybe they should develop attitudes that encourage inclusion and positive behavior, instead of animosity and hate - which is what this world seems to live on nowadays. I'm not saying to be bullied. But being a bully yourself is no good, either. Maybe try understanding where the other person is coming from.
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Are gated communities bad for cities? Perhaps in certain ways, yes. It could very well explain the lack of social skills in today's world that may have gotten worse over time. Other ways, maybe not. Initially, I always understood gated communities were to protect them from bad outside entities - whether it was gangs or mafias. Little did I realize that it was much more than that. Is it more bad than good? I somewhat think so, yes. Why? Because it appears to me that such concept would seem to encourage division of people even when it's not warranted. Same goes for condo villages - even if they are not gated. This is particularly why I no longer like such concepts. They encourage division among people, even when it's not necessary. They encourage people to develop snotty attitudes and behaviors just because of where they live. If they fear for their lives, then maybe they should develop attitudes that encourage inclusion and positive behavior, instead of animosity and hate - which is what this world seems to live on nowadays. I'm not saying to be bullied. But being a bully yourself is no good, either. Maybe try understanding where the other person is coming from.
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CzarPeppers
Back when I was a teen, after my Dad and I had just moved to a new city we briefly stayed in condo building for older people. I was coming home from school one day and I had trouble with the key trying to get in, and this guy in his 60's or something came and started grilling me with some major assumption in his tone of voice. Of course being the age I was I was going through a bit of a grunge phase (yeah I know, I was a decade late for that trend, but I'm sure to him I just looked like a 'poor'. He eventually let me in, but not without some serious reservations. These sorts of communities, even on the extremely small scale such as a single condo, seem to give us some extremely warped ideas about our fellow community members (from our ACTUAL community. And in the end gated communities are just a way so we don't have to deal with the real problems in our society. But on top of that, with gated communities those problems just end up snowballing even more.
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Back when I was a teen, after my Dad and I had just moved to a new city we briefly stayed in condo building for older people. I was coming home from school one day and I had trouble with the key trying to get in, and this guy in his 60's or something came and started grilling me with some major assumption in his tone of voice. Of course being the age I was I was going through a bit of a grunge phase (yeah I know, I was a decade late for that trend, but I'm sure to him I just looked like a 'poor'. He eventually let me in, but not without some serious reservations. These sorts of communities, even on the extremely small scale such as a single condo, seem to give us some extremely warped ideas about our fellow community members (from our ACTUAL community. And in the end gated communities are just a way so we don't have to deal with the real problems in our society. But on top of that, with gated communities those problems just end up snowballing even more.
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Timothy Penn
I dont know how you could do a video about gated communities and their history and fail to mention Washington Terrace and the other private places of Saint Louis, Missouri. They are the true precursors of gated communities in the United States. Also, a primary advantage of common interest communities is they force you to know your neighbors because you have to work together to maintain the community. I know at some level all of my neighbors in my CIC. I know other people in non-CIC neighborhoods who would be hard pressed to give you the full names of their next door neighbors. Your arguments about people in CICs shutting themselves off from the rest of the world were overblown to the point of being silly. People in CICs contribute to urban community programs, charities, and causes, attend religious services in urban institutions, and work in urban settings as much or more as people in non-CIC suburban neighborhoods. Try again on this topic.
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I dont know how you could do a video about gated communities and their history and fail to mention Washington Terrace and the other private places of Saint Louis, Missouri. They are the true precursors of gated communities in the United States. Also, a primary advantage of common interest communities is they force you to know your neighbors because you have to work together to maintain the community. I know at some level all of my neighbors in my CIC. I know other people in non-CIC neighborhoods who would be hard pressed to give you the full names of their next door neighbors. Your arguments about people in CICs shutting themselves off from the rest of the world were overblown to the point of being silly. People in CICs contribute to urban community programs, charities, and causes, attend religious services in urban institutions, and work in urban settings as much or more as people in non-CIC suburban neighborhoods. Try again on this topic.
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Justsomeguynamedchris
I used to work for a local specialty delivery company, and a ton of our customers lived in gated communities, and yeah, they arent secure at all. The customer would almost always forget to give me the gate code when they make the order, and I never had any trouble getting into the gated communities. The gates move slow as molasses, so I could just wait for someone to enter or leave, and I'd go in before the gate closed. And if no one came or went for a while, half the time I could find the code on local forums online. It also wasnt hard to watch others punch in the code and just jot it down on a piece of paper for next time. The fences or walls were also usually looked easy to climb (though I obviously never did this. I know this is getting rambly but my main point is this: gated communities arent hard to get into, at all.
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I used to work for a local specialty delivery company, and a ton of our customers lived in gated communities, and yeah, they arent secure at all. The customer would almost always forget to give me the gate code when they make the order, and I never had any trouble getting into the gated communities. The gates move slow as molasses, so I could just wait for someone to enter or leave, and I'd go in before the gate closed. And if no one came or went for a while, half the time I could find the code on local forums online. It also wasnt hard to watch others punch in the code and just jot it down on a piece of paper for next time. The fences or walls were also usually looked easy to climb (though I obviously never did this. I know this is getting rambly but my main point is this: gated communities arent hard to get into, at all.
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Existing in music
Theres so many gated communities here where I live and Ive lived in a gated community for most of my life, and it wasnt ever such a big deal to me in terms of safety and exclusion, my friends who also live in them can relate. The gated communities are very aesthetically pleasing, symmetrical, and very clean, and that gives me a lot of pleasure to live in one. I never really felt extra safe since the neighborhoods that arent gated around here give off the same vibe. It would feel different however if I lived in a home near a busy street in the middle of a dense city area. Thats when I would kind of feel less safe, and probably uncomfortable from the noise. So to me whether the neighborhood is gated or not doesnt matter, what matters is where the neighborhood is.
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Theres so many gated communities here where I live and Ive lived in a gated community for most of my life, and it wasnt ever such a big deal to me in terms of safety and exclusion, my friends who also live in them can relate. The gated communities are very aesthetically pleasing, symmetrical, and very clean, and that gives me a lot of pleasure to live in one. I never really felt extra safe since the neighborhoods that arent gated around here give off the same vibe. It would feel different however if I lived in a home near a busy street in the middle of a dense city area. Thats when I would kind of feel less safe, and probably uncomfortable from the noise. So to me whether the neighborhood is gated or not doesnt matter, what matters is where the neighborhood is.
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sk8rgrlteen
My family bought a house in a gated community because at the house we lived in previously, had no gate and we didnt feel safe anymore. We moved to a gated community and I never thought of the advantage of local governments in the construction of those communities. I do wonder if the news really is stirring unnecessary fear in people. That in combination of every one driving in their cars, lack of common neutral gathering places, I suspect is actually contributing to the lack of trust and isolation we seem to have fallen into as a nation. We rarely are forced to interact with people who are different than us. Im not going to generalize and say that none of us do, Im just saying that kind of environment makes it easier for that to happen.
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My family bought a house in a gated community because at the house we lived in previously, had no gate and we didnt feel safe anymore. We moved to a gated community and I never thought of the advantage of local governments in the construction of those communities. I do wonder if the news really is stirring unnecessary fear in people. That in combination of every one driving in their cars, lack of common neutral gathering places, I suspect is actually contributing to the lack of trust and isolation we seem to have fallen into as a nation. We rarely are forced to interact with people who are different than us. Im not going to generalize and say that none of us do, Im just saying that kind of environment makes it easier for that to happen.
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Yi Hui Ang
As a response to the child's fears at 06: 27, I would then like to say that Singapore can then be regarded as a gated country then. It was a bit of a learning curve when i moved to Australia for university that safety is not to be taken for granted, yet on hindsight, the multiple well-meaning advice from fellow Singaporeans had elements of fear from ignorance due to Singapore's sheltered sense of safety. Perhaps that's why despite having one of the best passports for travelling and the wealth to enable such a lifestyle, one does not hear too many Singaporeans travelling off the beaten track.
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As a response to the child's fears at 06: 27, I would then like to say that Singapore can then be regarded as a gated country then. It was a bit of a learning curve when i moved to Australia for university that safety is not to be taken for granted, yet on hindsight, the multiple well-meaning advice from fellow Singaporeans had elements of fear from ignorance due to Singapore's sheltered sense of safety. Perhaps that's why despite having one of the best passports for travelling and the wealth to enable such a lifestyle, one does not hear too many Singaporeans travelling off the beaten track.
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Thomas King Schillerlein
Gated Comm. are not paranoid groupthink but the answer to the ruling injustices, racial and economical income-, wealth-, security- and most of all opportunities-GAPS in the society. Seems like apathetic, indifferent white wealthy muricans who dont give a f about other ppl cut themselves off in order to try to obtain maximum safety from. we all know whom(LOL. and in order to never have concerns about bad neighbours again. A rich neighbour is very, very unlikely to be a burden on you in whatsoever manner. When you have kids you think differently about those things.
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Gated Comm. are not paranoid groupthink but the answer to the ruling injustices, racial and economical income-, wealth-, security- and most of all opportunities-GAPS in the society. Seems like apathetic, indifferent white wealthy muricans who dont give a f about other ppl cut themselves off in order to try to obtain maximum safety from. we all know whom(LOL. and in order to never have concerns about bad neighbours again. A rich neighbour is very, very unlikely to be a burden on you in whatsoever manner. When you have kids you think differently about those things.
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Dick Head
Very biased video. Gated communities are a SYMPTOM of all that is wrong with Western society, not the cause. It is human nature to want to be with people who are similar to oneself and to fear those who are different. Coloured immigration and tolerance of criminals are the main causes of withdrawal from wider society. Successive liberal governments have created Trump, Brexit, etc. and those same governments promote fear of the far right that they themselves have created. Multiracial or multicultural communities do not work anywhere in the world and are incapable of doing so.
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Very biased video. Gated communities are a SYMPTOM of all that is wrong with Western society, not the cause. It is human nature to want to be with people who are similar to oneself and to fear those who are different. Coloured immigration and tolerance of criminals are the main causes of withdrawal from wider society. Successive liberal governments have created Trump, Brexit, etc. and those same governments promote fear of the far right that they themselves have created. Multiracial or multicultural communities do not work anywhere in the world and are incapable of doing so.
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francis hosey
Can you blame them for wanting to stay in a gated community? Diversity is not safe, just look at ALL large cities in the US. High poverty rates and higher CRIME rates. Do the math, its fact that its safer to love in a gated community because some people are not to be trusted. We dont need to interact with everyone and especially not bad ppl. Unfortunately the statistics point out that poor ppl are bad ppl and for good reasons. Dont lie and say that these communities are not good. Everyone in the comminuted preferr to be there and hey if they want to pay for it. Let them
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Can you blame them for wanting to stay in a gated community? Diversity is not safe, just look at ALL large cities in the US. High poverty rates and higher CRIME rates. Do the math, its fact that its safer to love in a gated community because some people are not to be trusted. We dont need to interact with everyone and especially not bad ppl. Unfortunately the statistics point out that poor ppl are bad ppl and for good reasons. Dont lie and say that these communities are not good. Everyone in the comminuted preferr to be there and hey if they want to pay for it. Let them
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