Audi R8 vs Porsche 911 Carrera 4S - Auto Express
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Date: 2022-04-17
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Rousseau
I will concede that the R8 is a better daily driver than its Italian rivals. I believe your comment was, people buy the 4S because they can't afford a Turbo, to which I replied with my given reasons. The reason were not to answer, -why don't they buy a GT3 if they want a N/A engine and nice exhaust note? - On paper, with performance and maintenance and all relative to price, the R8 is great, but my problem with it is that its trying to play with the wrong crowd, but its fans are oblivious to it.
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I will concede that the R8 is a better daily driver than its Italian rivals. I believe your comment was, people buy the 4S because they can't afford a Turbo, to which I replied with my given reasons. The reason were not to answer, -why don't they buy a GT3 if they want a N/A engine and nice exhaust note? - On paper, with performance and maintenance and all relative to price, the R8 is great, but my problem with it is that its trying to play with the wrong crowd, but its fans are oblivious to it.
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yamanote
Perhaps I should've specified GT3 along with the Turbo S- they both slot in above the 4S, and apart from the MT (which very few customers are speccing these days, both have their advantages.
I agree that the 13-year-old fanboys who think the R8 is better than a G/458 are way off base- but those aren't its primary competitors. As a -150k, daily drivable near-exotic, the 911 is. The R8 is a compelling competitor too, offering exotic looks at the same price (while the 911 looks a bit. plain.
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Perhaps I should've specified GT3 along with the Turbo S- they both slot in above the 4S, and apart from the MT (which very few customers are speccing these days, both have their advantages.
I agree that the 13-year-old fanboys who think the R8 is better than a G/458 are way off base- but those aren't its primary competitors. As a -150k, daily drivable near-exotic, the 911 is. The R8 is a compelling competitor too, offering exotic looks at the same price (while the 911 looks a bit. plain.
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yamanote
That's a huge compliment to Audi you're giving there then, comparing it to a Lambo! At its price point IMO the (downtuned, FYI) V10 is supposed to compete with the 997TT, and still slots in under the G in the VAG family.
Perhaps we've grown too accustomed to the look of the 911 over the years but anything short of a GT3 doesn't turn heads. I'm not saying it's ugly, but it's not a very exciting design, and if you asked someone which one is more expensive they'd point out the R8 every time.
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That's a huge compliment to Audi you're giving there then, comparing it to a Lambo! At its price point IMO the (downtuned, FYI) V10 is supposed to compete with the 997TT, and still slots in under the G in the VAG family.
Perhaps we've grown too accustomed to the look of the 911 over the years but anything short of a GT3 doesn't turn heads. I'm not saying it's ugly, but it's not a very exciting design, and if you asked someone which one is more expensive they'd point out the R8 every time.
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yamanote
There is one thing that the R8 does better than the G and that's ride comfort, especially with magnetic ride. Many owners of this type of car want to have the option to daily drive it and it is something to consider for some customers.
You could say it's another issue of cost (in that they can't afford a second car after buying their near-exotic R8, whereas a G owner would buy a luxury car for daily use, but some people do want to drive around in their sports car everyday.
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There is one thing that the R8 does better than the G and that's ride comfort, especially with magnetic ride. Many owners of this type of car want to have the option to daily drive it and it is something to consider for some customers.
You could say it's another issue of cost (in that they can't afford a second car after buying their near-exotic R8, whereas a G owner would buy a luxury car for daily use, but some people do want to drive around in their sports car everyday.
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Rousseau
The 4. 2 R8 does indeed compete vigorously with the 911, but the V10 and the V10, while it still does compete with the 911, the performance capabilities puts it in the territory of the Gallardo and the 458. I do agree the 911 doesn't look as exotic as the R8, but plain is bit too harsh, don't you think? The 911 still has an exotic look, just one that's been around for a while, so the introduction of the R8's looks makes it seem plain.
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The 4. 2 R8 does indeed compete vigorously with the 911, but the V10 and the V10, while it still does compete with the 911, the performance capabilities puts it in the territory of the Gallardo and the 458. I do agree the 911 doesn't look as exotic as the R8, but plain is bit too harsh, don't you think? The 911 still has an exotic look, just one that's been around for a while, so the introduction of the R8's looks makes it seem plain.
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yamanote
If it's one of the (3 of every 10) 911s that are still sold with the MT, sure. But 7 of those 10 have PDK. So why didn't that 70% of owners buy a GT3 if they wanted natural aspiration and an awesome exhaust note?
You're right- most R8 owners buy it because it's cheaper to own and maintain than the Gallardo. But if it looks exotic and drives similarly as you say, is it really a bad thing though?
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If it's one of the (3 of every 10) 911s that are still sold with the MT, sure. But 7 of those 10 have PDK. So why didn't that 70% of owners buy a GT3 if they wanted natural aspiration and an awesome exhaust note?
You're right- most R8 owners buy it because it's cheaper to own and maintain than the Gallardo. But if it looks exotic and drives similarly as you say, is it really a bad thing though?
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Porsche
It definitely doesn't sound as good as the Porsche. Did you ever hear a 911 and a R8 to compare them? The V8 in the R8 is damn silent, just above 5. 000 rpm it becomes a little bit more noticeable. But yes, it is more unique. I'd take the Porsche either way. It is near to perfection and is the better daily driver due to more space in the front AND it even got backseats which you can put down.
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It definitely doesn't sound as good as the Porsche. Did you ever hear a 911 and a R8 to compare them? The V8 in the R8 is damn silent, just above 5. 000 rpm it becomes a little bit more noticeable. But yes, it is more unique. I'd take the Porsche either way. It is near to perfection and is the better daily driver due to more space in the front AND it even got backseats which you can put down.
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Rousseau
Problem with R8 fans, is that with the Audi R8, you always get the sense that the owners wanted a Lamborghini Gallardo or a Ferrari 458 Italia, but couldn't afford one (or in the case of fans, the argument of, -It's cheaper-, so they chose to buy a car that looks like them and drives similar to them.
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Problem with R8 fans, is that with the Audi R8, you always get the sense that the owners wanted a Lamborghini Gallardo or a Ferrari 458 Italia, but couldn't afford one (or in the case of fans, the argument of, -It's cheaper-, so they chose to buy a car that looks like them and drives similar to them.
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That's because porsche has a stronger brand image and Audi still is a brand that in the 90's decade the a4 was shit and it takes time to build a new image. Maybe your son will prefer Audi because it's getting stronger year by year. Damn just look at that piece of art. /watch? v=jsudmRyxLjc
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That's because porsche has a stronger brand image and Audi still is a brand that in the 90's decade the a4 was shit and it takes time to build a new image. Maybe your son will prefer Audi because it's getting stronger year by year. Damn just look at that piece of art. /watch? v=jsudmRyxLjc
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