The 15 most UNRELIABLE cars named & shamed!
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Date: 2022-04-11
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MadIIMike
The way it's calculated kinda doesn't say much about it tbh.
For starters, the first 2 - X years (KIA has 7, Hyundai 5 years in Germany at least) of warranty and various recalls aren't covered by it since it goes down before the insurance.
Then there's the calculation of cost x probability, on most of the top-end cars on the list you have to go right to the manufacturer for anything related to electrical issues and it's not a big secret for Porsche, BMW, Audi etc. dealers to have quite some rates (of which the mechanics won't see much of.
One example I can give for Audi's A7 (not mine): Even on the small 1. 8/2. 0 Liter engines, a new timing chain (a never ending story for VW/Audi) not only costs about 400- in material, it's also rated for 8 ) hours of work, and if you go to a Audi Dealer in London, Munich etc. you'll go way north of 100-/hour rates. Timing chain rattle is a common issue on almost any VAG engine using them, so if a customer states -rattling in the engine bay- that's the first thing they'll happily take your money for.
On the 3. 0 TDI, they rate the same job at 20 hours.
The hours refer to the combined time of all the people working on it, not the time the car is being worked on. As usual, Audi is rather generous (to itself) with those numbers, but I can ensure you -ease of maintenance- hasn't been a priority in the automotive industry for the last 2-3 decades.
Another comparsion: if you have a 3k+ Satnav combo device where 1 in 1000 fail, then it's still worse in the statistics than a 100$ CD-Radio which fails 1 in 50 times.
But in reality, a 0. 1% failure rate would be considered way more reliable than a 2% failure rate.
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The way it's calculated kinda doesn't say much about it tbh.
For starters, the first 2 - X years (KIA has 7, Hyundai 5 years in Germany at least) of warranty and various recalls aren't covered by it since it goes down before the insurance.
Then there's the calculation of cost x probability, on most of the top-end cars on the list you have to go right to the manufacturer for anything related to electrical issues and it's not a big secret for Porsche, BMW, Audi etc. dealers to have quite some rates (of which the mechanics won't see much of.
One example I can give for Audi's A7 (not mine): Even on the small 1. 8/2. 0 Liter engines, a new timing chain (a never ending story for VW/Audi) not only costs about 400- in material, it's also rated for 8 ) hours of work, and if you go to a Audi Dealer in London, Munich etc. you'll go way north of 100-/hour rates. Timing chain rattle is a common issue on almost any VAG engine using them, so if a customer states -rattling in the engine bay- that's the first thing they'll happily take your money for.
On the 3. 0 TDI, they rate the same job at 20 hours.
The hours refer to the combined time of all the people working on it, not the time the car is being worked on. As usual, Audi is rather generous (to itself) with those numbers, but I can ensure you -ease of maintenance- hasn't been a priority in the automotive industry for the last 2-3 decades.
Another comparsion: if you have a 3k+ Satnav combo device where 1 in 1000 fail, then it's still worse in the statistics than a 100$ CD-Radio which fails 1 in 50 times.
But in reality, a 0. 1% failure rate would be considered way more reliable than a 2% failure rate.
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PleidaesAlienZero1
I had a 1999 Peugeot 406 HDi 2. 00 litre Turbo Deisel Estate, I bought it at 47, 000 miles, and drove it all over Scotland, Europe through the Mountains, in Snow etc, I thrashed it around, and it was always very heavily loaded with stuff in the boot etc. It sat still outside for 2 years through 2 very cold winters and snow as I bought a newer 407HDi. Anyway after the car had sat for 2 yrs I recharged the battery and it started first time and ran perfectly, I took it for an MOT which it passed no problem. I then sold the car to a Farmer friend of mine for 500 pounds. I did 577, 000 miles in the car personally, my friend is still using it and its now on 635, 000 and in all this time it has Never broken down or had any failures. Obviously it had normal wear and tear items replaced from time to time like tyres, brake pads etc but nothing ever broke or failed. Excellent Ultra reliable car in my opinion. Also the 407 HDi I bought was a 2. 00Litre Turbo Deisel and I did a staggering 393, 000 on the same clutch also as like the 406 I never had any breakdowns at all with it. I am a mechanic and in my view of all the cars I have owned over nearly 50 yrs of driving I would rate them as the most reliable that I have ever owned.
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I had a 1999 Peugeot 406 HDi 2. 00 litre Turbo Deisel Estate, I bought it at 47, 000 miles, and drove it all over Scotland, Europe through the Mountains, in Snow etc, I thrashed it around, and it was always very heavily loaded with stuff in the boot etc. It sat still outside for 2 years through 2 very cold winters and snow as I bought a newer 407HDi. Anyway after the car had sat for 2 yrs I recharged the battery and it started first time and ran perfectly, I took it for an MOT which it passed no problem. I then sold the car to a Farmer friend of mine for 500 pounds. I did 577, 000 miles in the car personally, my friend is still using it and its now on 635, 000 and in all this time it has Never broken down or had any failures. Obviously it had normal wear and tear items replaced from time to time like tyres, brake pads etc but nothing ever broke or failed. Excellent Ultra reliable car in my opinion. Also the 407 HDi I bought was a 2. 00Litre Turbo Deisel and I did a staggering 393, 000 on the same clutch also as like the 406 I never had any breakdowns at all with it. I am a mechanic and in my view of all the cars I have owned over nearly 50 yrs of driving I would rate them as the most reliable that I have ever owned.
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Aidan
Honestly just buy a Toyota and be done with it. Only reason Lexus and Honda are higher in reliability is because they don't have work vehicles that get abused on mines, farms, bush, beach, carrying and towing heavy loads everyday and doing all of the above together daily while not being maintained properly and they still are number 3 most reliable cars. Lexus is just Toyota without the work horses in the line up and chrome everywhere. Honda is reliable and also over-engineered but they are only number 1 because they don't have millions of vehicles in third world countries being abused everyday or hard working vans and utes that get flogged daily
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Honestly just buy a Toyota and be done with it. Only reason Lexus and Honda are higher in reliability is because they don't have work vehicles that get abused on mines, farms, bush, beach, carrying and towing heavy loads everyday and doing all of the above together daily while not being maintained properly and they still are number 3 most reliable cars. Lexus is just Toyota without the work horses in the line up and chrome everywhere. Honda is reliable and also over-engineered but they are only number 1 because they don't have millions of vehicles in third world countries being abused everyday or hard working vans and utes that get flogged daily
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Markus
Weird how there's only expensive premium cars on that list. I wonder how Warrantywise actually produced that list. most number of claims? Impossible, considering how few Bentley Continental GT are actually on the road. Highest total sum of claims? More likely, but still doesn't really fit the types of cars that made the list. Seems like they went by most expensive repairs. and what a surprise, premium brands that have the most expensive cars also charge the most for repairs. So what are we learning from this list? -Don't buy a premium car without warranty if you can't afford premium repairs! -. Who would have thought that.
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Weird how there's only expensive premium cars on that list. I wonder how Warrantywise actually produced that list. most number of claims? Impossible, considering how few Bentley Continental GT are actually on the road. Highest total sum of claims? More likely, but still doesn't really fit the types of cars that made the list. Seems like they went by most expensive repairs. and what a surprise, premium brands that have the most expensive cars also charge the most for repairs. So what are we learning from this list? -Don't buy a premium car without warranty if you can't afford premium repairs! -. Who would have thought that.
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That
In my experience, minis are incredibly hot or miss, so I-m surprised there isn-t at least one on this list. In my family, we had an 05 Mini Copper S Convertible and drove it for many years without any faults. That was sold to upgrade to a 60 reg Mini Countryman (we got a good deal second hand to upgrade from the cooper. The head gasket blew at 50k miles, and the gear box had to be replaced. Ultimately decided that Mini wasn-t the most reliable so decided to go for a Toyota and VWs in the future exclusively as I haven-t met anyone who-s had problems with them
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In my experience, minis are incredibly hot or miss, so I-m surprised there isn-t at least one on this list. In my family, we had an 05 Mini Copper S Convertible and drove it for many years without any faults. That was sold to upgrade to a 60 reg Mini Countryman (we got a good deal second hand to upgrade from the cooper. The head gasket blew at 50k miles, and the gear box had to be replaced. Ultimately decided that Mini wasn-t the most reliable so decided to go for a Toyota and VWs in the future exclusively as I haven-t met anyone who-s had problems with them
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Wobbegong
From working with statistice here and there I would like to point out that a car is more likely to pop up in here if it has a better longer warranty that covers more stuff. If you go to a garage and ask the mechanics what they have to fix the most you will certainly hear about a certain state owned french car maker a lot.
Counter point to what I just said is that notoriously well warranty equipped Hyundai is not on this list. They simply seem to do a great job over all.
Conclusion: We need more numbers.
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From working with statistice here and there I would like to point out that a car is more likely to pop up in here if it has a better longer warranty that covers more stuff. If you go to a garage and ask the mechanics what they have to fix the most you will certainly hear about a certain state owned french car maker a lot.
Counter point to what I just said is that notoriously well warranty equipped Hyundai is not on this list. They simply seem to do a great job over all.
Conclusion: We need more numbers.
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Tarkan
Moral of the story: if you really want a reliable German car, don't buy a high-end one.
I'm saying this because up to the A4/C-Class/3-Series they are pretty reliable and also in my country there are still a TON of German cars from the 90s and early 2000s driving on the road. Also take into account that about 90% of the problems that need service in today's cars are straight up linked to the car's electronics.
Another moral of the story: Volkswagen have really silenced the 'Volks' in their name.
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Moral of the story: if you really want a reliable German car, don't buy a high-end one.
I'm saying this because up to the A4/C-Class/3-Series they are pretty reliable and also in my country there are still a TON of German cars from the 90s and early 2000s driving on the road. Also take into account that about 90% of the problems that need service in today's cars are straight up linked to the car's electronics.
Another moral of the story: Volkswagen have really silenced the 'Volks' in their name.
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Matti
Facepalm!
in 2006 almost everyone who had a driver's license drove satisfied example with Chryslers, Chevrolets, Passates, Phaentom, Kangoo, Clio, C3, C4, C5, C6, R-Class, A3, A4, A6, A8, Cayenne, E63, E65, X3, X5, Calibers. -
there were no problems because everyone changed cars more often and the cars didn-t have to be reliable.
In fact, the used cars were only a maximum of 20 years old and cars were much more expensive at the time-
and cars were not purchased for a month fee.
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Facepalm!
in 2006 almost everyone who had a driver's license drove satisfied example with Chryslers, Chevrolets, Passates, Phaentom, Kangoo, Clio, C3, C4, C5, C6, R-Class, A3, A4, A6, A8, Cayenne, E63, E65, X3, X5, Calibers. -
there were no problems because everyone changed cars more often and the cars didn-t have to be reliable.
In fact, the used cars were only a maximum of 20 years old and cars were much more expensive at the time-
and cars were not purchased for a month fee.
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Franciszek
You included one of my favourite cars ever such as:
1. BMW M4
For me, this is one of the best looking BMW ever. The front looks so aggressive.
2. Ford Galaxy
I really want my parents to buy one one of these cars to replace my 1997 Mazda Bongo, because my 1997 Mazda Bongo is slow, noisy, uneconomical producing lots of CO2 and rusty from the side.
3. Audi Q7
This car is also good enough to replace my 1997 Mazda Bongo and even better than the Ford Galaxy.
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You included one of my favourite cars ever such as:
1. BMW M4
For me, this is one of the best looking BMW ever. The front looks so aggressive.
2. Ford Galaxy
I really want my parents to buy one one of these cars to replace my 1997 Mazda Bongo, because my 1997 Mazda Bongo is slow, noisy, uneconomical producing lots of CO2 and rusty from the side.
3. Audi Q7
This car is also good enough to replace my 1997 Mazda Bongo and even better than the Ford Galaxy.
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Radu
This top is simply wrong. The most reliable cars are cheap cars which are, logic. less expensive to repair and most unreliable the expensive ones. You simply cannot compare cost of ownership of a sandero with a cost of ownership of a GL. Therefore, make it fair and and a ratio of initial value. That will provide a fair reliability equation - or, just skip costs and only count incident %. In the end reliability is how something is good to perform, not how expensive is to fix.
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This top is simply wrong. The most reliable cars are cheap cars which are, logic. less expensive to repair and most unreliable the expensive ones. You simply cannot compare cost of ownership of a sandero with a cost of ownership of a GL. Therefore, make it fair and and a ratio of initial value. That will provide a fair reliability equation - or, just skip costs and only count incident %. In the end reliability is how something is good to perform, not how expensive is to fix.
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