MARC Review: The last operator of the HHP-8: EXCLUSIVE FOOTAGE
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Date: 2024-01-09
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-vakane
It's something I never understand. Why did USA railway had so many problems with this HHP 8? SNCF class BB 36000, and derivated class 3000 for CFL and class 13 for SNCB, are considerated as good locomotives. None have technical issues, they have not an high cost in service and they are able to do all king of service, from fast passenger to heavy freight whitout problem. So what is the problem for HHP 8? Does Alsthom/Bombardier underestimate what adaption were needed for the running condition in USA railway? For exemple bogies and suspension adapted for european tracks, but not for USA tracks. Or were they fully advertise on what condition the HHP 8 would encounter? Did Amtrack do all they promised (track, maintenance) for smooth/good running? Did they reduced to much the money they spend to have these locomotives running? Does it is juste because the needed modifications to meet USA norms were not good for these locomotives? Or perhaps Bombardier did not construted them well? Or it is just because Amtrack and MARC bought them like this in the catalog manifacturer but did not used them in the way they are intended?
It's something I am very curious.
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It's something I never understand. Why did USA railway had so many problems with this HHP 8? SNCF class BB 36000, and derivated class 3000 for CFL and class 13 for SNCB, are considerated as good locomotives. None have technical issues, they have not an high cost in service and they are able to do all king of service, from fast passenger to heavy freight whitout problem. So what is the problem for HHP 8? Does Alsthom/Bombardier underestimate what adaption were needed for the running condition in USA railway? For exemple bogies and suspension adapted for european tracks, but not for USA tracks. Or were they fully advertise on what condition the HHP 8 would encounter? Did Amtrack do all they promised (track, maintenance) for smooth/good running? Did they reduced to much the money they spend to have these locomotives running? Does it is juste because the needed modifications to meet USA norms were not good for these locomotives? Or perhaps Bombardier did not construted them well? Or it is just because Amtrack and MARC bought them like this in the catalog manifacturer but did not used them in the way they are intended?
It's something I am very curious.
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train
I recently discovered your site and enjoy it immensely! Only 2 minor technical glitches that I saw and you have fixed one of them already - the script disappearing when there is a white background on the lower portion of the screen. The other is the small ads that block the script - but only 2 or 3 of them on this video. Your devotion and extensive knowledge to promote trains both in the U. S. and throughout Europe is remarkable. Gives the U. S. something to strive for with improved tracks and faster speeds!
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I recently discovered your site and enjoy it immensely! Only 2 minor technical glitches that I saw and you have fixed one of them already - the script disappearing when there is a white background on the lower portion of the screen. The other is the small ads that block the script - but only 2 or 3 of them on this video. Your devotion and extensive knowledge to promote trains both in the U. S. and throughout Europe is remarkable. Gives the U. S. something to strive for with improved tracks and faster speeds!
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train
Last month on the 30th i did a whole video on a MARC express train 536 from DC to Aberdeen and he had an HHP8 on it. 536 usually has an HHP8 since it-s express stopping at BWI Airport then Baltimore & continues towards Perryville. As of today the HHP8 are normally used on express trains and semi expresses. I still wish some would run during th day. They-re the only locos that give off speed higher then 110mph. Did a MARC local video too with an HHP8 both mu trains were flying
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Last month on the 30th i did a whole video on a MARC express train 536 from DC to Aberdeen and he had an HHP8 on it. 536 usually has an HHP8 since it-s express stopping at BWI Airport then Baltimore & continues towards Perryville. As of today the HHP8 are normally used on express trains and semi expresses. I still wish some would run during th day. They-re the only locos that give off speed higher then 110mph. Did a MARC local video too with an HHP8 both mu trains were flying
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-Elios0000
yeah price is high for tickets since that is where it makes it money from one off rider ship. monthly passes are much more affordable. also you try the Maryland Light Rail from BWI up to Huntvalley! and the reason for the diesels is the catenary stops at BWI the MARC goes all the way up to Baltimore at the ballpark you should taken it to there. and you can get on the Lightrail at ballpark and take it almost all the way to PA where it stops in Huntvalley MD
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yeah price is high for tickets since that is where it makes it money from one off rider ship. monthly passes are much more affordable. also you try the Maryland Light Rail from BWI up to Huntvalley! and the reason for the diesels is the catenary stops at BWI the MARC goes all the way up to Baltimore at the ballpark you should taken it to there. and you can get on the Lightrail at ballpark and take it almost all the way to PA where it stops in Huntvalley MD
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train
I thoroughly enjoyed this review. Also I am a huge fan of the HHP-8 loco, and fortunately travelled many times behind Amtrak examples between Baltimore and New York. Great shame they proved unreliable, but when in good order they had plenty of urge! Let's hope the 6 MARC ones are soon back in service, but in the summer time, several Amtrak Siemens electrics could be seen on MARC trains between Baltimore and D. C!
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I thoroughly enjoyed this review. Also I am a huge fan of the HHP-8 loco, and fortunately travelled many times behind Amtrak examples between Baltimore and New York. Great shame they proved unreliable, but when in good order they had plenty of urge! Let's hope the 6 MARC ones are soon back in service, but in the summer time, several Amtrak Siemens electrics could be seen on MARC trains between Baltimore and D. C!
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-fancyyahoo
Thank you so much for having recorded a video on the HHP-8 locomotive! I first got to know about it when I was gifted a copy of Microsoft Train Simulator by my dad, as a child. It's really sad to see that these locomotives have been plagued with reliability and maintenance cost-related problems, otherwise these are unique-looking engines that could pass off as being the Acela Express' siblings.
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Thank you so much for having recorded a video on the HHP-8 locomotive! I first got to know about it when I was gifted a copy of Microsoft Train Simulator by my dad, as a child. It's really sad to see that these locomotives have been plagued with reliability and maintenance cost-related problems, otherwise these are unique-looking engines that could pass off as being the Acela Express' siblings.
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-deby5983
-Simply Railway I used to commute from Baltimore Camden Yards to College Park and to DC for work. Glad to see the updates - the 8 doors is great! At least I know if I attend an Oriole game at Camden Yards, drink a boatload of beer and travel back to Laurel -- there is a BATHROOM! (Needless to say, they didn't have one in the early 90's LOL)
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-Simply Railway I used to commute from Baltimore Camden Yards to College Park and to DC for work. Glad to see the updates - the 8 doors is great! At least I know if I attend an Oriole game at Camden Yards, drink a boatload of beer and travel back to Laurel -- there is a BATHROOM! (Needless to say, they didn't have one in the early 90's LOL)
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-kevanhubbard9673
Not uncommon to run diesel trains under the electric wires. in Scotland and England until recently class 43 powered HST trains ran under the wires all the way from Edinburgh, and beyond, to London. on freight there class 66 locomotives commonly run freight trains huge distances under the wires.
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Not uncommon to run diesel trains under the electric wires. in Scotland and England until recently class 43 powered HST trains ran under the wires all the way from Edinburgh, and beyond, to London. on freight there class 66 locomotives commonly run freight trains huge distances under the wires.
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-sergiofreitas9368
Something sad: MARC retired these engines for DIESEL Siemens Chargers. Which means the entire MARC operations will now be entirely diesel, running under a catenary.
What a waste. I expected better from USA, but I really shouldn't at this point.
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Something sad: MARC retired these engines for DIESEL Siemens Chargers. Which means the entire MARC operations will now be entirely diesel, running under a catenary.
What a waste. I expected better from USA, but I really shouldn't at this point.
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-thhseeking
When I saw the thumbnail, I thought that it looked like an Alstom loco. The U. S. fascination with bells on locos and trains amazes me. When the first EMD arrived in the UK, there was a bell stuck on the end. It was non-operational, thankfully.
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When I saw the thumbnail, I thought that it looked like an Alstom loco. The U. S. fascination with bells on locos and trains amazes me. When the first EMD arrived in the UK, there was a bell stuck on the end. It was non-operational, thankfully.
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-woodmt. 5548
The only foreign long-distance train I've ever had is metro liner. When I got off at Union Station in Washington, D. C, I found out that the HHP-8 was in tow. I took a picture. It is said that there are many breakdowns, but I miss HHP-8.
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The only foreign long-distance train I've ever had is metro liner. When I got off at Union Station in Washington, D. C, I found out that the HHP-8 was in tow. I took a picture. It is said that there are many breakdowns, but I miss HHP-8.
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train
You: Steps into the part of the boarding wall by the staircase.
Me: oh man I remember this
(I didn-t actually take any train trips during my DC trip some 3 to 4 years ago but at least I got to see the station but not the platforms)
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You: Steps into the part of the boarding wall by the staircase.
Me: oh man I remember this
(I didn-t actually take any train trips during my DC trip some 3 to 4 years ago but at least I got to see the station but not the platforms)
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-amfm889
Amtrak needs brighter lighting on its platforms! Maybe send them pictures of Barcelona Sants. Washington Union Station, NYC Penn Station, Chicago Union Station- all dimly-lit. A small improvement, a big difference! Nice socks, btw. ;-)
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Amtrak needs brighter lighting on its platforms! Maybe send them pictures of Barcelona Sants. Washington Union Station, NYC Penn Station, Chicago Union Station- all dimly-lit. A small improvement, a big difference! Nice socks, btw. ;-)
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-isleman9473
HHP-8 reportedly all going in favor of Siemens Chargers, thus ending electric locomotives on MARC. The safety folder on MARC trains is the result of a tragic accident on MARC many years ago, resulting in multiple fatalities.
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HHP-8 reportedly all going in favor of Siemens Chargers, thus ending electric locomotives on MARC. The safety folder on MARC trains is the result of a tragic accident on MARC many years ago, resulting in multiple fatalities.
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train
I always wanted to hear the sound of an HHP-8's motors accelerating, without the fans drowning them out. Brilliant video!
Now I wanna do this trip when I go to the states. Already wanna do a similar ride behind an NJT ALP-46!
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I always wanted to hear the sound of an HHP-8's motors accelerating, without the fans drowning them out. Brilliant video!
Now I wanna do this trip when I go to the states. Already wanna do a similar ride behind an NJT ALP-46!
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-parkerjon29
I really don't understand why MARC runs diesels under wires and why they just bought a bunch of chargers instead of ACS64s for the penn line. Their frequent stops and starts would be very conducive for electric motive power.
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I really don't understand why MARC runs diesels under wires and why they just bought a bunch of chargers instead of ACS64s for the penn line. Their frequent stops and starts would be very conducive for electric motive power.
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-metrawatt
Thank you for reviewing my local commuter rail system. You almost made it to my stop at Halethorpe. It was the location of the -Fair of the Iron Horse- which celebrated the first 100 years of the American railroad.
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Thank you for reviewing my local commuter rail system. You almost made it to my stop at Halethorpe. It was the location of the -Fair of the Iron Horse- which celebrated the first 100 years of the American railroad.
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-UncommonElevators
This was the first train I ever rode when I was 5. Still a great ride to this day! I wish MARC would use EMUs like the PRR used to. They should get dual mode trains if they ever extend service to Virginia.
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This was the first train I ever rode when I was 5. Still a great ride to this day! I wish MARC would use EMUs like the PRR used to. They should get dual mode trains if they ever extend service to Virginia.
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-chadpt
Hey! Thanks for the video. I have watched many of your videos and you keep judging the prices based on trip duration instead of distance. If you apply that logic to high speed trains, they would always be expensive.
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Hey! Thanks for the video. I have watched many of your videos and you keep judging the prices based on trip duration instead of distance. If you apply that logic to high speed trains, they would always be expensive.
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-atthemoment14
interesting that they've been around for so long. I have been seeing those engines used for amtrak more often recently, I thought they were new. Maybe it's just that I haven't ridden Amtrak enough to notice.
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interesting that they've been around for so long. I have been seeing those engines used for amtrak more often recently, I thought they were new. Maybe it's just that I haven't ridden Amtrak enough to notice.
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-hmitchell8618
They would use the electric locomotives more often. It-s just a combination of Amtrak making the price very high for electricicry for MARC to use and the HHP-8 break down a lot which is very unfortunate.
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They would use the electric locomotives more often. It-s just a combination of Amtrak making the price very high for electricicry for MARC to use and the HHP-8 break down a lot which is very unfortunate.
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train
Same coaches as the one used by NJ Transit. I love the single seats close to the stairs. Can't wait to see the versions that will run without the locomotives coming in like another year or two to NJ Transit.
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Same coaches as the one used by NJ Transit. I love the single seats close to the stairs. Can't wait to see the versions that will run without the locomotives coming in like another year or two to NJ Transit.
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-samuelitooooo
What do you think makes these Multilevels feel spacious in a way that the LIRR's C3s don't? Already I can see that the doors and the stairs between the decks are both narrower. -
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What do you think makes these Multilevels feel spacious in a way that the LIRR's C3s don't? Already I can see that the doors and the stairs between the decks are both narrower. -
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-luislaplume8261
The HHP when it accelerates sounds like the motors when vintage subway trains accelerate back in NYC in the 1960s
on the 6th and 8th Ave lines, I am a New Yorker.
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The HHP when it accelerates sounds like the motors when vintage subway trains accelerate back in NYC in the 1960s
on the 6th and 8th Ave lines, I am a New Yorker.
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-PeterFriedrich19
I really love push pull trains in general.
But standing behind (in front) the loco in push mode is so great. You can see the coupling stretching and contracting.
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I really love push pull trains in general.
But standing behind (in front) the loco in push mode is so great. You can see the coupling stretching and contracting.
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-cokakukla2366
They run diesels so they can use them on the Camden and Brunswick lines too. Nothin wrong with diesels on the corridor, it's been that way since the late 80s.
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They run diesels so they can use them on the Camden and Brunswick lines too. Nothin wrong with diesels on the corridor, it's been that way since the late 80s.
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train
What I don't understand is why MARC did not acquire some ACS64, as SEPTA did.
and the irony goes further, with MARC renting some amtrak acs at the moment.
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What I don't understand is why MARC did not acquire some ACS64, as SEPTA did.
and the irony goes further, with MARC renting some amtrak acs at the moment.
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-xinlu2806
I really like your videos! They are informative and fun. I just think it would be nice if you talked to us instead of having just the subtitles there.
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I really like your videos! They are informative and fun. I just think it would be nice if you talked to us instead of having just the subtitles there.
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-gustman9048
Marc: -Oh hey I saw your post on EBay selling those engines. No I am fine if they will fall apart going over 25 but I just -Want- it.
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Marc: -Oh hey I saw your post on EBay selling those engines. No I am fine if they will fall apart going over 25 but I just -Want- it.
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-user-us2wh4fm3k
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-liamnixon4428
So Union station operates like an airport instead of a train station? That doesn't make sense, but it's also not suprising.
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So Union station operates like an airport instead of a train station? That doesn't make sense, but it's also not suprising.
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-tibbers3755
I used to ride marc everyday on my way home from college. It was really crowded before the pandemic between dc and odenton.
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I used to ride marc everyday on my way home from college. It was really crowded before the pandemic between dc and odenton.
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-stevecooksley
That side vent looks quite similar to the Class 373 Eurostar as well as the Acela - I wonder if Alstom shared these?
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That side vent looks quite similar to the Class 373 Eurostar as well as the Acela - I wonder if Alstom shared these?
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-joezegers
Correction:
The Bombardier multilevel cars were introduced
2006 on NJ Transit
2009 on AMT/Exo
2016 on MARC
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Correction:
The Bombardier multilevel cars were introduced
2006 on NJ Transit
2009 on AMT/Exo
2016 on MARC
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-scottyerkes1867
Nice review. I believe diesel locos are preferred due to the majority of MARC's lines being non electrified.
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Nice review. I believe diesel locos are preferred due to the majority of MARC's lines being non electrified.
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