OUIGO - High Speed, Low Price
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Date: 2024-01-09
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The equivalent journey in the UK is London to Inverness (8h) and for a non-London journey, Plymouth to Edinburgh (10h) [an arguably comparable city-pair to Lille and Marseille] which is disgraceful in comparison; to add more insult to injury, the DfT have NO interest whatsoever in that Cross Country route (rather, they're making it worse by decimating its already-horrendous capacity withdrawing the HSTs WITHOUT a replacement and sending spare Voyagers that could've filled that gap off-lease instead) as they're too busy burning all funds into a White Elephant which in 10 years (if we're lucky) will only connect somewhere in West London to Birmingham for a decade until the necessary extensions (which will probably be cancelled) are completed.
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The equivalent journey in the UK is London to Inverness (8h) and for a non-London journey, Plymouth to Edinburgh (10h) [an arguably comparable city-pair to Lille and Marseille] which is disgraceful in comparison; to add more insult to injury, the DfT have NO interest whatsoever in that Cross Country route (rather, they're making it worse by decimating its already-horrendous capacity withdrawing the HSTs WITHOUT a replacement and sending spare Voyagers that could've filled that gap off-lease instead) as they're too busy burning all funds into a White Elephant which in 10 years (if we're lucky) will only connect somewhere in West London to Birmingham for a decade until the necessary extensions (which will probably be cancelled) are completed.
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-edystvumdb
They should be doing this in Italy too, maybe with the older ETR500 or the Fyra ETR700 so that we don't have to pay 100+- on a return journey from Milan to Rome. I'm honestly sick of paying so much for a service that is nothing special. I'd rather pay 30- than 140- on a second-class journey, at the end of the day neither Italo nor Trenitalia offers snacks or beverages in second class, so why bother? If for 30- I get the plus ticket like in this case it's more than fair.
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They should be doing this in Italy too, maybe with the older ETR500 or the Fyra ETR700 so that we don't have to pay 100+- on a return journey from Milan to Rome. I'm honestly sick of paying so much for a service that is nothing special. I'd rather pay 30- than 140- on a second-class journey, at the end of the day neither Italo nor Trenitalia offers snacks or beverages in second class, so why bother? If for 30- I get the plus ticket like in this case it's more than fair.
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-GregoryFleury
Hey, at the end, if you take the train on your right, chances are you'll end up in my country; )
Thank you for sharing your experience. It is interesting to know that this isn't too bad, even if I am not sure that I could spend almost 5 hours in this train with luggage stopping me to stretch my legs and paid services for everything including. electricity: D
But it's worth thinking it over.
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Hey, at the end, if you take the train on your right, chances are you'll end up in my country; )
Thank you for sharing your experience. It is interesting to know that this isn't too bad, even if I am not sure that I could spend almost 5 hours in this train with luggage stopping me to stretch my legs and paid services for everything including. electricity: D
But it's worth thinking it over.
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-ici_marmotte
Wow, from Marseille in the South to Lille in the very North, that's quite a long distance! I know how long it takes to cross France from the North to the South or vice versa. I wish we had a low-cost train brand with high-speed trains here in Germany as well. SNCF has really better and more useful ideas for their passengers than our Deutsche Bahn such as introducing Ouigo.
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Wow, from Marseille in the South to Lille in the very North, that's quite a long distance! I know how long it takes to cross France from the North to the South or vice versa. I wish we had a low-cost train brand with high-speed trains here in Germany as well. SNCF has really better and more useful ideas for their passengers than our Deutsche Bahn such as introducing Ouigo.
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-lo2740
well, sadly that is not the reality we experience each time we need to book a train here in France, let me tell you, the price is more often 80 or 160Eur than 16Eur, for just 1/3 of this distance. OF course if you are totally free in your date/time choices you may be able to book a travel for cheap, but the vast majority of travels are very expensive, often more than airplane.
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well, sadly that is not the reality we experience each time we need to book a train here in France, let me tell you, the price is more often 80 or 160Eur than 16Eur, for just 1/3 of this distance. OF course if you are totally free in your date/time choices you may be able to book a travel for cheap, but the vast majority of travels are very expensive, often more than airplane.
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-Charlizzie
10: 50 12: 19 Thibauuuuuuuult!
11: 30 So true if you're an European. In my country, building one is a major issue. Too much bureaucracy.
13: 09 Easy for OM to visit and riot LOSC and vice versa.
13: 51 Why not Eurostar allow for this London-Paris-Marseille route? But you know OUIGO can do the route to London St. Pancras, right?
14: 53 From InOui to InOn!
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10: 50 12: 19 Thibauuuuuuuult!
11: 30 So true if you're an European. In my country, building one is a major issue. Too much bureaucracy.
13: 09 Easy for OM to visit and riot LOSC and vice versa.
13: 51 Why not Eurostar allow for this London-Paris-Marseille route? But you know OUIGO can do the route to London St. Pancras, right?
14: 53 From InOui to InOn!
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-onnes608
Meanwhile in Germany, DB is the only option, is very expensive and totally non reliable. I do not remember when was the last time I used DB and they arrived on time. They do not even care if they are late and if that maybe causes some other connection issues for the passengers. So, this is obviously another level of service in France. Good job France!
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Meanwhile in Germany, DB is the only option, is very expensive and totally non reliable. I do not remember when was the last time I used DB and they arrived on time. They do not even care if they are late and if that maybe causes some other connection issues for the passengers. So, this is obviously another level of service in France. Good job France!
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-HRHolm-bi6zu
Hey. don't complain about the tight boarding. The carriages look very clean and comfortable. You ought to try Amtrak in the USA where the door-entranceways can -somehow- be filled with snow and ice (I could just not figure that out at all) and the overnight heat may or may not work. French trains truly superior, evidently.
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Hey. don't complain about the tight boarding. The carriages look very clean and comfortable. You ought to try Amtrak in the USA where the door-entranceways can -somehow- be filled with snow and ice (I could just not figure that out at all) and the overnight heat may or may not work. French trains truly superior, evidently.
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-NikHYTWP
Both SNCF and OUIGO have insane prices. To get anything close to your deal you'd have to catch some sort of special promotion, pay for some wildly overprice subscription or book months and months in advance. Every time I've looked into it, low-cost airlines from Beauvais have been cheaper than taking the train from Paris
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Both SNCF and OUIGO have insane prices. To get anything close to your deal you'd have to catch some sort of special promotion, pay for some wildly overprice subscription or book months and months in advance. Every time I've looked into it, low-cost airlines from Beauvais have been cheaper than taking the train from Paris
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-pcorf
France was the second country to develop an exclusive high speed network, only high speed trains use the high speed lines, all lines are fenced off and there are no level crossings. But their high speed trains can also be used on conventional lines at lower speed. In Japan the high speed trains only use dedicated lines.
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France was the second country to develop an exclusive high speed network, only high speed trains use the high speed lines, all lines are fenced off and there are no level crossings. But their high speed trains can also be used on conventional lines at lower speed. In Japan the high speed trains only use dedicated lines.
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-aurelienclerc2009
from my experience, even though it-s a bit louder on the lower decks on duplex, there is less people passing trough your cab to go to the bar for example as the only way to cross cab is on the upper deck. it results in a much smoother and quieter travel. ( the doors dont open every 10 seconds) 8: 00
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from my experience, even though it-s a bit louder on the lower decks on duplex, there is less people passing trough your cab to go to the bar for example as the only way to cross cab is on the upper deck. it results in a much smoother and quieter travel. ( the doors dont open every 10 seconds) 8: 00
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-qornopiratu
I've always wondered why tgv duplexes seem so weirdly designed. The space is cramped and there is a step from the platform to the lower deck even though the platform is low already. Especially bizarre coming from Swiss double deckers that are far more spacious and have step free entry.
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I've always wondered why tgv duplexes seem so weirdly designed. The space is cramped and there is a step from the platform to the lower deck even though the platform is low already. Especially bizarre coming from Swiss double deckers that are far more spacious and have step free entry.
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-YBentertainming
Cant wait for better integration of European rail services. Last month i tried to buy train tickets for a short trip to spain, but not only was it more expensive than travel by car it also took longer. NS International didn't even give me budget-friendly options like Ouigo.
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Cant wait for better integration of European rail services. Last month i tried to buy train tickets for a short trip to spain, but not only was it more expensive than travel by car it also took longer. NS International didn't even give me budget-friendly options like Ouigo.
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-bentrig9128
Why didn't this exist in 2013 when I was a broke college student in France? So much better than taking a plane or a bus, but those were the only cheap options at the time. I would have loved to have been able to pop down to Marseille from Paris on one of these bad boys.
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Why didn't this exist in 2013 when I was a broke college student in France? So much better than taking a plane or a bus, but those were the only cheap options at the time. I would have loved to have been able to pop down to Marseille from Paris on one of these bad boys.
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-justmeajah
My first time watching this Ouigo, and man I was impressed by their business model, their trains, and that full speed video! Felt like Formula One! Interesting to see whether other countries will copy this model since 90% occupancy is a profitable figures to begin with!
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My first time watching this Ouigo, and man I was impressed by their business model, their trains, and that full speed video! Felt like Formula One! Interesting to see whether other countries will copy this model since 90% occupancy is a profitable figures to begin with!
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-thierrydesu
Taking a high speed train in France has become a pain in the ass since SNCF invented Ouigo. Pray for not missing your train or for it not being late because SNCF staff wil let you in no way take an Inoui train instead. They will say 'It's not the same company'.
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Taking a high speed train in France has become a pain in the ass since SNCF invented Ouigo. Pray for not missing your train or for it not being late because SNCF staff wil let you in no way take an Inoui train instead. They will say 'It's not the same company'.
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-dennisud
I really hope this will be the future of High speed rail in the U. S! I have an acquaintance visiting Disneyland Paris who was also at the Star Wars Celebration in London. This is the Econo-Lodge of trains and for the value its well worth it. Thanks again!
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I really hope this will be the future of High speed rail in the U. S! I have an acquaintance visiting Disneyland Paris who was also at the Star Wars Celebration in London. This is the Econo-Lodge of trains and for the value its well worth it. Thanks again!
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-pravdr1
Thanks for reliving the Paris marseille ouigo I took last year. 3 h 5 min that was an experience. the last section to Nice is not high speed so we explored marseille and then in two days took a TER to Nice ville an extremely scenic journey. loved this one.
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Thanks for reliving the Paris marseille ouigo I took last year. 3 h 5 min that was an experience. the last section to Nice is not high speed so we explored marseille and then in two days took a TER to Nice ville an extremely scenic journey. loved this one.
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-DOSBoxMom
Sounds like quite a bargain! My hometown in central Illinois is along the only stretch of High-Speed Rail tracks in the state, although I don't know if Amtrak operates trains along these tracks as fast as the Ouigo seemed to be traveling.
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Sounds like quite a bargain! My hometown in central Illinois is along the only stretch of High-Speed Rail tracks in the state, although I don't know if Amtrak operates trains along these tracks as fast as the Ouigo seemed to be traveling.
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-yourfriendBJ
Japan had (until 2021) a double decker Shinkansen called the max toki (E4 series) that would travel from Tokyo to Niigata on the tohoku and joetsu Shinkansen. Great trains with a distinct geometry. Max speed 240 km/h
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Japan had (until 2021) a double decker Shinkansen called the max toki (E4 series) that would travel from Tokyo to Niigata on the tohoku and joetsu Shinkansen. Great trains with a distinct geometry. Max speed 240 km/h
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Great video -- and comments. Wonderful to think of the possibilities. Am I right in thinking ( having looked at the website ) that the service only covers SEVEN cities in all of Spain? That is the only setback I can see.
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Great video -- and comments. Wonderful to think of the possibilities. Am I right in thinking ( having looked at the website ) that the service only covers SEVEN cities in all of Spain? That is the only setback I can see.
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-chickenpommes19
I think I'll stick to my 19- DB Sparpreis in Germany lol. This one is looking a little too Ryanair but with a more purpose-built rolling stock I'm sure it'd be an acceptable cheap trip.
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I think I'll stick to my 19- DB Sparpreis in Germany lol. This one is looking a little too Ryanair but with a more purpose-built rolling stock I'm sure it'd be an acceptable cheap trip.
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This is what the Northeast Corridor -should- be. Who knows, maybe with the new Avelia Liberty trains eventually being placed into service, it will become this way.
I doubt it though.
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This is what the Northeast Corridor -should- be. Who knows, maybe with the new Avelia Liberty trains eventually being placed into service, it will become this way.
I doubt it though.
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-anthonywalsh2164
I hope Trenitalia begin to operate in France soon. Clearly there is a need for competition and the frecciarossa is just the superior product to provide it.
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I hope Trenitalia begin to operate in France soon. Clearly there is a need for competition and the frecciarossa is just the superior product to provide it.
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-andi_1425
When the train stopped in the middle of nowhere, I kind of expected the conductor to go around and collect 2 - from everyone to make the train continue XD
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When the train stopped in the middle of nowhere, I kind of expected the conductor to go around and collect 2 - from everyone to make the train continue XD
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-nerd2814
13: 45 in China it's possible to take a ride on the train between Beijing to Nanjing, which supposedly covers the 1000+km in just under 3hrs 15min. Mental!
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13: 45 in China it's possible to take a ride on the train between Beijing to Nanjing, which supposedly covers the 1000+km in just under 3hrs 15min. Mental!
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-OnboardG1
I'm meant to be taking one of these between Paris and Lyon in a couple of weeks time. I might be taking the bus though because of the train strikes!
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I'm meant to be taking one of these between Paris and Lyon in a couple of weeks time. I might be taking the bus though because of the train strikes!
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-ylpea5170
Don't cheap prices mean exploitation of employees? I'd love to know whether 'normal' SNCF employees have a better life than their OUIGO colleagues.
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Don't cheap prices mean exploitation of employees? I'd love to know whether 'normal' SNCF employees have a better life than their OUIGO colleagues.
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-Beadierempress2
I spent 1 year doing my Erasmus in Aix-en-Provence and used Ouigo quite often, as a student nothing can beat a low price high speed train!
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I spent 1 year doing my Erasmus in Aix-en-Provence and used Ouigo quite often, as a student nothing can beat a low price high speed train!
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-AndrewG1989
Would like to see OUIGO operate from London St. Pancras International and to do a competition with Eurostar. Their trains are so incredible.
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Would like to see OUIGO operate from London St. Pancras International and to do a competition with Eurostar. Their trains are so incredible.
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They've also got a service in Spain. Its website is available in English as well as Spanish. The French service's site is only available in French
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They've also got a service in Spain. Its website is available in English as well as Spanish. The French service's site is only available in French
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-Charlizzie
I bet Ouigo is the best matchday trains to ride for every football and rugby fan in any big city rivalite in any Ligue 1 or Top 14 matches.
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I bet Ouigo is the best matchday trains to ride for every football and rugby fan in any big city rivalite in any Ligue 1 or Top 14 matches.
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-storiestellr
very interesting as always.
OuiGo is a great way indeed to get people to switch from air/car to trains - Oui to go! (get it) -
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very interesting as always.
OuiGo is a great way indeed to get people to switch from air/car to trains - Oui to go! (get it) -
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-Drago1995
saw allot of those in Lille Flandres, and i believe in Tournai and Brussels if im not mistaken or was it the other trains
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saw allot of those in Lille Flandres, and i believe in Tournai and Brussels if im not mistaken or was it the other trains
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-Dafoodmaster
you say the window is too high in the old bar cart - is that true for taller people too? 179 to 189 cm?
thank you
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you say the window is too high in the old bar cart - is that true for taller people too? 179 to 189 cm?
thank you
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