What Is God Like? : Crash Course Philosophy #12
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Date: 2022-04-04
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J-lia
1. Prayer doesn-t change God, it changes us.
2. Humans are not perfect. How can we know perfection is something? By knowledge of its definition. What is a definition? Something through which we explain things. But what takes us to believe what we define? Some kind of pre-built basis. That relates to faith. Us, Catholics, believe that faith is not something you build yourself, but it-s a free gift from God. You can either take it or leave it. But all we know in the world is by definition. It requires faith to believe a definition and world wouldn-t function without this. Like believing 2+2=4. Why? It-s dogmatic. And without this we could not build algebra and the thousand other things that come from these little definitions. It is all a matter of believing. If you don-t believe something or if you do, does not prove or not the existence of it. But some things can be proven by experimentation. And this helps build definition, not only, but helps. We don-t know everything because we are limited. But we know some things because we have something. And, although we may not know everything about the world, there is truth in something. What is error? It-s not a fullness of something, but absence of truth. We believe God is the ultimate truth, goodness and beauty. We might not understand all of God, but we know some things that God is. By definition: perfect. And perfect is a definition we know, but have no other exemple but Him.
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1. Prayer doesn-t change God, it changes us.
2. Humans are not perfect. How can we know perfection is something? By knowledge of its definition. What is a definition? Something through which we explain things. But what takes us to believe what we define? Some kind of pre-built basis. That relates to faith. Us, Catholics, believe that faith is not something you build yourself, but it-s a free gift from God. You can either take it or leave it. But all we know in the world is by definition. It requires faith to believe a definition and world wouldn-t function without this. Like believing 2+2=4. Why? It-s dogmatic. And without this we could not build algebra and the thousand other things that come from these little definitions. It is all a matter of believing. If you don-t believe something or if you do, does not prove or not the existence of it. But some things can be proven by experimentation. And this helps build definition, not only, but helps. We don-t know everything because we are limited. But we know some things because we have something. And, although we may not know everything about the world, there is truth in something. What is error? It-s not a fullness of something, but absence of truth. We believe God is the ultimate truth, goodness and beauty. We might not understand all of God, but we know some things that God is. By definition: perfect. And perfect is a definition we know, but have no other exemple but Him.
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Egyptiangoodgamer
I think God loves us so much that he would actually change his mind on certain stuff to suit our prayers. Doesn't contradict the 4 Omnis or that He is wrong. Either He might show us through doing what we wanted that not everything we want is right for us, or He might respond to the prayer by actually doing the same thing He was going to do anyway and after it we would pray thank God for not doing what I asked before, or what we asked is what He would have done. The problem with the philospohical issue with God is that we always Judge God by human philosophies only, judging Him by itself is enough to throw the argument out of the window since He is omnibelevolent you cannot judge pure righteousness.
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I think God loves us so much that he would actually change his mind on certain stuff to suit our prayers. Doesn't contradict the 4 Omnis or that He is wrong. Either He might show us through doing what we wanted that not everything we want is right for us, or He might respond to the prayer by actually doing the same thing He was going to do anyway and after it we would pray thank God for not doing what I asked before, or what we asked is what He would have done. The problem with the philospohical issue with God is that we always Judge God by human philosophies only, judging Him by itself is enough to throw the argument out of the window since He is omnibelevolent you cannot judge pure righteousness.
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Ashwin
This all is explicitly written in Shreemadbhagwadgeeta which is a text way older then these Philosophers. I wonder why all people deeply indulge themselves in Western Philosophy and not talking a bit about their Eastern cronies and their works. I highly recommend you guys to read Shreemadbhagwadgeeta. It is a lot to take in, in just one read but will surely open your minds for some new and great things. The beauty of Sanskrit language will surely amaze you
And there are Vedas and Upanidashas too. These texts had greatly inspired a number of Western Philosophers and Mathematicians.
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This all is explicitly written in Shreemadbhagwadgeeta which is a text way older then these Philosophers. I wonder why all people deeply indulge themselves in Western Philosophy and not talking a bit about their Eastern cronies and their works. I highly recommend you guys to read Shreemadbhagwadgeeta. It is a lot to take in, in just one read but will surely open your minds for some new and great things. The beauty of Sanskrit language will surely amaze you
And there are Vedas and Upanidashas too. These texts had greatly inspired a number of Western Philosophers and Mathematicians.
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Knowing
Let me start with I dont believe in God lol. Now, I dont like the freewill argument with Omniscience because knowing what someone is going to do, is not the same as making them do it, and I really dislike the argument of -what if I didnt do it though! - because at the end of the day you did. This is just my understanding and perception on the idea though. I value the arguments against its, this is just what makes the most sense to me.
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Let me start with I dont believe in God lol. Now, I dont like the freewill argument with Omniscience because knowing what someone is going to do, is not the same as making them do it, and I really dislike the argument of -what if I didnt do it though! - because at the end of the day you did. This is just my understanding and perception on the idea though. I value the arguments against its, this is just what makes the most sense to me.
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Yo5463
Here is a thought: If God is all knowing and he made his choice on what's going to happen before hearing your prayer, it is still valuable since God also knew of your prayer before you made it. Your prayer had its effect at the beginning of time when God made his mind and you're closing the cycle
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Here is a thought: If God is all knowing and he made his choice on what's going to happen before hearing your prayer, it is still valuable since God also knew of your prayer before you made it. Your prayer had its effect at the beginning of time when God made his mind and you're closing the cycle
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RIEVAULX
Here's my interpretation of Stump's problem: I always interpreted it that God knows our prayers before we pray them, and kind of took them all into account before the universe began. So it's still worthwhile to pray because God will (or did) take them into account.
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Here's my interpretation of Stump's problem: I always interpreted it that God knows our prayers before we pray them, and kind of took them all into account before the universe began. So it's still worthwhile to pray because God will (or did) take them into account.
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Anna
If you're interested in free will, you should read the Licanius trilogy, a simply AWESOME epic fantasy that explores the concept of free will in a very interesting way that really makes you think and that is simply the most incredibly put together fantasy story ever.
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If you're interested in free will, you should read the Licanius trilogy, a simply AWESOME epic fantasy that explores the concept of free will in a very interesting way that really makes you think and that is simply the most incredibly put together fantasy story ever.
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Free
I don-t think that the issue with free will is much of a problem, because it misunderstands how time works, it-s not a linear process of causes and occurrences, it-s more like a tree with infinite branches branching off from the present
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I don-t think that the issue with free will is much of a problem, because it misunderstands how time works, it-s not a linear process of causes and occurrences, it-s more like a tree with infinite branches branching off from the present
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Mr.
So, if God is that -perfect-, what-s the point in trying to understand him, if at the end there-s going to be the conclusion that -our little minds- will never solve the reason of his existence?
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So, if God is that -perfect-, what-s the point in trying to understand him, if at the end there-s going to be the conclusion that -our little minds- will never solve the reason of his existence?
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MrSitemaster2
The more I watch these things the more I believe Philosophy is just man made nonsense. You can almost say whatever you like about God(s, it seems no one can actually prove you wrong.
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The more I watch these things the more I believe Philosophy is just man made nonsense. You can almost say whatever you like about God(s, it seems no one can actually prove you wrong.
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