Why Airbus Will Stop Making A380s
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Here is the stake that will bury Airbus for good -- on 2 October 2019, the World Trade Organization (WTO) said the -U. S. Can Hit EU With $7. 5 Billion In Tariffs Over Airbus Subsidies- -- WOW! The WTO said the -United States can impose tariffs on up to $7. 5 billion worth of goods from the European Union as retaliation for illegal subsidies to Airbus - a record award from the trade body! - Not sure that Airbus will survive without mommy/daddys support! Good Riddance and Long Live Free Market!
Date: 2024-01-04
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-vikassm
This plane would have been the biggest commercial airline success story, save for 3 pivotal events that affected our world in unimaginable ways.
First two were like a quick one two punch.
1. The dot com burst of 2000
2. 9/11 2001
The final knockout was
3. The 2008 bank recession.
Each event made spending tighter and flying less desirable/more of a functional utility.
Many high end products bit the dust because of these 3 events.
Ultimately the market for a large capacity mid range commercial aircraft vaporized.
The need now is for medium capacity ultra long range aircraft.
This product wasn't a commercial flop. It would have been a flop if no one wanted to buy it. Airlines just stopped making so much money, they had to cancel so many orders. The world and the market just changed.
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This plane would have been the biggest commercial airline success story, save for 3 pivotal events that affected our world in unimaginable ways.
First two were like a quick one two punch.
1. The dot com burst of 2000
2. 9/11 2001
The final knockout was
3. The 2008 bank recession.
Each event made spending tighter and flying less desirable/more of a functional utility.
Many high end products bit the dust because of these 3 events.
Ultimately the market for a large capacity mid range commercial aircraft vaporized.
The need now is for medium capacity ultra long range aircraft.
This product wasn't a commercial flop. It would have been a flop if no one wanted to buy it. Airlines just stopped making so much money, they had to cancel so many orders. The world and the market just changed.
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fun-facts
I've flown on ANA's A380 from Tokyo to Honolulu recently. Great onboard experience, terrible ground experience. Flying with over 500 people on the same flight means that you'll have to fall in line with those same 500 people once you get processed for customs and immigration. Waiting for your bags is another problem too. Of course, I know that the speed of immigration processing largely depends on the specific country and airport, but the numbers don't lie. More people to board, more people to deplane, more people to process at the same time.
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I've flown on ANA's A380 from Tokyo to Honolulu recently. Great onboard experience, terrible ground experience. Flying with over 500 people on the same flight means that you'll have to fall in line with those same 500 people once you get processed for customs and immigration. Waiting for your bags is another problem too. Of course, I know that the speed of immigration processing largely depends on the specific country and airport, but the numbers don't lie. More people to board, more people to deplane, more people to process at the same time.
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-PaddyMcMe
Yeah whilst the Boeing's philosophy of reduced costs and efficiency did end up being the more effective than Airbus with the Dreamer sadly their insistence in carrying this over to all aspects, like with the 737 Max and their MCAS system which their training manual, a 2 hour iPad course, didn't mention at all, again to save money, which ultimately resulted in two catastrophic crashes resulting in total loss of life for LA610 in 2018 killing 189 people and EA302 in 2019 killing 157. That's 346 deaths over a 1 year span.
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Yeah whilst the Boeing's philosophy of reduced costs and efficiency did end up being the more effective than Airbus with the Dreamer sadly their insistence in carrying this over to all aspects, like with the 737 Max and their MCAS system which their training manual, a 2 hour iPad course, didn't mention at all, again to save money, which ultimately resulted in two catastrophic crashes resulting in total loss of life for LA610 in 2018 killing 189 people and EA302 in 2019 killing 157. That's 346 deaths over a 1 year span.
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-LHFX
I fail to see why so many people consider this a failure. hundreds were made for over a decade, beating the 747 during that time, we'll continue to see them flying for at least a decade more and most importantly none of them crashed. It might have had a loss of around $10bn over a span of 20 years, however when it comes to large commercial jet manufacturing, strategic investments make a lot of sense: this brought a lot of credibility to Airbus and lessons learned made the A350 program a lot smoother.
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I fail to see why so many people consider this a failure. hundreds were made for over a decade, beating the 747 during that time, we'll continue to see them flying for at least a decade more and most importantly none of them crashed. It might have had a loss of around $10bn over a span of 20 years, however when it comes to large commercial jet manufacturing, strategic investments make a lot of sense: this brought a lot of credibility to Airbus and lessons learned made the A350 program a lot smoother.
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-artistmac
Boeing is ending the production of 747's, too, so I guess the age of the jumbos is over for now. There are more fuel efficient jets, and Zoom meetings for the last year and a half have shown that face-to-face contact isn't necessary to do every scrap of business, which would cut down greatly on business travel. Visiting theme parks? Not necessary, but people just want to, lol.
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Boeing is ending the production of 747's, too, so I guess the age of the jumbos is over for now. There are more fuel efficient jets, and Zoom meetings for the last year and a half have shown that face-to-face contact isn't necessary to do every scrap of business, which would cut down greatly on business travel. Visiting theme parks? Not necessary, but people just want to, lol.
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fun-facts
Not sure why the 787 was brought into it lol. It was designed a decade later and is a completely different sector of the market. You might as well have talked about an Embraer. A crazy amount of technologies were develoed during the A380 programme, most of which laid the foundation of Airbus current success.
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Not sure why the 787 was brought into it lol. It was designed a decade later and is a completely different sector of the market. You might as well have talked about an Embraer. A crazy amount of technologies were develoed during the A380 programme, most of which laid the foundation of Airbus current success.
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-WWTormentor
It-s not a engineering failure but an economic failure. Air bus didn-t understand that bigger isn-t always better and that larger planes have less options for use. The only reason 747 is still in action is because of the cargo use. Majority of the 747 are the cargo version.
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It-s not a engineering failure but an economic failure. Air bus didn-t understand that bigger isn-t always better and that larger planes have less options for use. The only reason 747 is still in action is because of the cargo use. Majority of the 747 are the cargo version.
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-marcusgriffin279
In my opinion the reason the 380 failed was too many engines and too large a wing span. If the plane were a twin engine that could land at any airport a 767 could land, it would have sold like hot cakes. Oh wait! Airbus makes a plane like that, it-s called a 350!
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In my opinion the reason the 380 failed was too many engines and too large a wing span. If the plane were a twin engine that could land at any airport a 767 could land, it would have sold like hot cakes. Oh wait! Airbus makes a plane like that, it-s called a 350!
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-lacdirk
Just because something is technologically possible does not mean it makes sense. We ended regular space exploration of the moon. We ended supersonic passenger travel. Most countries have decided not to deploy high-speed rail widely.
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Just because something is technologically possible does not mean it makes sense. We ended regular space exploration of the moon. We ended supersonic passenger travel. Most countries have decided not to deploy high-speed rail widely.
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-Sueloveschoc
I usually fly in an embraer domestically (delta on the west coast) and A380 internationally and I must say, I-m going to miss it. It was like flying in a house! And the business class on the A380 was so comfortable.
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I usually fly in an embraer domestically (delta on the west coast) and A380 internationally and I must say, I-m going to miss it. It was like flying in a house! And the business class on the A380 was so comfortable.
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-HabashyGaming
I have always been an Airbus fan even if the A380 did not succeed in my eyes he is the king of the sky. Airbus has better technology, setups less crashes, more reliable and they look way better than boeing.
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I have always been an Airbus fan even if the A380 did not succeed in my eyes he is the king of the sky. Airbus has better technology, setups less crashes, more reliable and they look way better than boeing.
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-NPJGlobal
5: 13 you make it sound like none of the plane of was built in France, whereas the majority of the plane's components were manufactured in France before assembly with the rest of european parts in Toulouse
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5: 13 you make it sound like none of the plane of was built in France, whereas the majority of the plane's components were manufactured in France before assembly with the rest of european parts in Toulouse
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-shmeckle666
I remember when this beast of burden was in development, testing and then introduced into carriers around the world. Shame, its production life is so woefully short. If only it was 40 years earlier.
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I remember when this beast of burden was in development, testing and then introduced into carriers around the world. Shame, its production life is so woefully short. If only it was 40 years earlier.
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fun-facts
Government noise regulations killed the Concorde. It made a profit for BA. AF put the final mail in the coffin with shoddy maintenance and dangerous procedures leading to the crash.
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Government noise regulations killed the Concorde. It made a profit for BA. AF put the final mail in the coffin with shoddy maintenance and dangerous procedures leading to the crash.
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fun-facts
Despite the failures that a380s encounter, Airbus still also considers a success due to that they can achieve full potential to create that sophisticated plane and its technology.
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Despite the failures that a380s encounter, Airbus still also considers a success due to that they can achieve full potential to create that sophisticated plane and its technology.
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-kitmandal8572
So can someone help answer a question for me. I didn't get it answered here. How does the floating power plant transmit all the power back to the grid? Under power cables?
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So can someone help answer a question for me. I didn't get it answered here. How does the floating power plant transmit all the power back to the grid? Under power cables?
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-smipy
Just like Max Lee said in comments Commercial failure, Engineering masterpiece
But you do have to remember, you need money to keep making materspieces like this.
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Just like Max Lee said in comments Commercial failure, Engineering masterpiece
But you do have to remember, you need money to keep making materspieces like this.
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-AbrahamArthemius
. and here's the kicker. The 747, because of their unique nose design enables them to have a chance to have a second and prolonged life as a cargo plane.
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. and here's the kicker. The 747, because of their unique nose design enables them to have a chance to have a second and prolonged life as a cargo plane.
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-aimiekhan7737
A380 will come gain in action sooner or latter. Its a missfit in (todays) aviation industry. Electric engines and then you'll c -
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A380 will come gain in action sooner or latter. Its a missfit in (todays) aviation industry. Electric engines and then you'll c -
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-user-xc1ek5zy4w
I hate the a380 but I kinda understand its enjoyment on flying on it, its quiet, its spacious but I care about the enviornment.
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I hate the a380 but I kinda understand its enjoyment on flying on it, its quiet, its spacious but I care about the enviornment.
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-shaggydawg5419
I hope I get an opportunity to fly on an A380 before they are all grounded/retired. Largest plane I've been on is a 747.
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I hope I get an opportunity to fly on an A380 before they are all grounded/retired. Largest plane I've been on is a 747.
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-gemmasahagun6342
I did not understand a single word you mentioned but
never gonna give you up
never gonna let u down
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I did not understand a single word you mentioned but
never gonna give you up
never gonna let u down
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-Agislife1960
Airbus just had to upstage Boeing's 747, even tho the future market for such a mammoth aircraft was uncertain.
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Airbus just had to upstage Boeing's 747, even tho the future market for such a mammoth aircraft was uncertain.
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fun-facts
short answer, was not profitable. as per some of the comments, agreed, was a great experience to fly in one.
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short answer, was not profitable. as per some of the comments, agreed, was a great experience to fly in one.
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