A Brief History Of When Neanderthals Met Modern Humans - A Day In History
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Date: 2022-09-18
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Eric
let me know if you want some help on that. in the while, initiate a DNA study of the bodies of those who died childless skipping back at 10 gen intervals, documenting prevalence of Neanderthal sequence, with reference to the estimated population density during each one's life. this is why:
during the second wave; when the east nile territory was evacuated due to the overshoot numbers of the human populations which had contracted the species invasive DNA, those evacuating the territory obviously kept populations tighter to the means, and had need to develop weapons designed to take other homins, ( the oldest bow was discovered in the most difficult area of the east nile teritory to defend, as requisite to their preservation of social access to food and water there.
where the humans who left africa earlier, such as neanderthal, had no need to develop weapons designed to take anything other than game.
that does not, in any way, qualify them as less intelligent.
when the war front got pushed back into eurasia, the need to access resources would have increased dramatically, ( where we do also see anthropocentric effects on animal species.
Neanderthals lived a very different life prior to the second wave, and did what made sense under overshoot conditions, ( conserve energy and think. and again; that does not, in any way, qualify them as less intelligent.
and it has always been this losing battle, to preserve social access to food and water against the insidious crotch warfare; with population pressure and significant other shortages still sweeping across the entire continent like waves, cresting and crashing into war and famine, over and over. the post hunter gatherer socio-economic structures dampen those waves somewhat, but not with america pumping food into sub-sahara why? how do we make it stop? i have been asking people for decades, and no one knows how. so america is going to starve to death, and eurasia is going to get packed with migrants until everyone goes homicidal i guess.
i am serious, i live in america, and no one here knows how to make it stop. but to continue,
native american populations are also very low during this catastrophic global overshoot; and it may very well be that parts of the neanderthal sequence, which have been mostly lost, are very sensitive to duress of one's supporting living systems. where when and if, those sequences re-surface, we end up with a childless person? do you see?
we have CRISPR now. that Neandratahal gene set could save the world,
and, of course also removing the species invasive DNA segment, carried by the sub-saharan strains, is absolutely necessary, or any reproductively stable gene set would not help at all.
and maybe both DNA segments cover the same location, for a swap. i am not a genetics professional; just a guess there, maybe.
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let me know if you want some help on that. in the while, initiate a DNA study of the bodies of those who died childless skipping back at 10 gen intervals, documenting prevalence of Neanderthal sequence, with reference to the estimated population density during each one's life. this is why:
during the second wave; when the east nile territory was evacuated due to the overshoot numbers of the human populations which had contracted the species invasive DNA, those evacuating the territory obviously kept populations tighter to the means, and had need to develop weapons designed to take other homins, ( the oldest bow was discovered in the most difficult area of the east nile teritory to defend, as requisite to their preservation of social access to food and water there.
where the humans who left africa earlier, such as neanderthal, had no need to develop weapons designed to take anything other than game.
that does not, in any way, qualify them as less intelligent.
when the war front got pushed back into eurasia, the need to access resources would have increased dramatically, ( where we do also see anthropocentric effects on animal species.
Neanderthals lived a very different life prior to the second wave, and did what made sense under overshoot conditions, ( conserve energy and think. and again; that does not, in any way, qualify them as less intelligent.
and it has always been this losing battle, to preserve social access to food and water against the insidious crotch warfare; with population pressure and significant other shortages still sweeping across the entire continent like waves, cresting and crashing into war and famine, over and over. the post hunter gatherer socio-economic structures dampen those waves somewhat, but not with america pumping food into sub-sahara why? how do we make it stop? i have been asking people for decades, and no one knows how. so america is going to starve to death, and eurasia is going to get packed with migrants until everyone goes homicidal i guess.
i am serious, i live in america, and no one here knows how to make it stop. but to continue,
native american populations are also very low during this catastrophic global overshoot; and it may very well be that parts of the neanderthal sequence, which have been mostly lost, are very sensitive to duress of one's supporting living systems. where when and if, those sequences re-surface, we end up with a childless person? do you see?
we have CRISPR now. that Neandratahal gene set could save the world,
and, of course also removing the species invasive DNA segment, carried by the sub-saharan strains, is absolutely necessary, or any reproductively stable gene set would not help at all.
and maybe both DNA segments cover the same location, for a swap. i am not a genetics professional; just a guess there, maybe.
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Nick
Interesting that Neanderthals didn't seem to adapt as readily as HSapien. They had 400, 000 years. It may be that had HSapien not interfered Neanderthals might have existed much as they had for another couple hundred thousand years not changing much, kinda like every other species on the planet. Leading to the question of what happened to that HSapien wave that superseded all other homo species and came to dominate all species with unique adaption skills? it don't seem natural.
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Interesting that Neanderthals didn't seem to adapt as readily as HSapien. They had 400, 000 years. It may be that had HSapien not interfered Neanderthals might have existed much as they had for another couple hundred thousand years not changing much, kinda like every other species on the planet. Leading to the question of what happened to that HSapien wave that superseded all other homo species and came to dominate all species with unique adaption skills? it don't seem natural.
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Williams
Our results indicate that strong selection has been operating on pigmentation-related genes within western Eurasia for the past 5, 000 y.
Wilde, Sandra et al. Direct evidence for positive selection of skin, hair, and eye pigmentation in Europeans during the last 5, 000 y. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America vol. 111, 13 (2014): 4832-7. doi: 10. 1073/pnas. 1316513111
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Our results indicate that strong selection has been operating on pigmentation-related genes within western Eurasia for the past 5, 000 y.
Wilde, Sandra et al. Direct evidence for positive selection of skin, hair, and eye pigmentation in Europeans during the last 5, 000 y. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America vol. 111, 13 (2014): 4832-7. doi: 10. 1073/pnas. 1316513111
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Pup
I recently got the results of a DNA ancestry kit back & was told I had more Neanderthal DNA than 74% of the company's customer base.
My wife has taken this as an opportunity to go around telling everyone that I'm 74% Neanderthal!
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I recently got the results of a DNA ancestry kit back & was told I had more Neanderthal DNA than 74% of the company's customer base.
My wife has taken this as an opportunity to go around telling everyone that I'm 74% Neanderthal!
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Eddiee
If Neanderthals are apes with 48 chromosomes they won't be able to mate with humans that have 46 chromosomes. Not in this world or another world. It's like saying cats and dogs could cross breed and have healthy offspring.
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If Neanderthals are apes with 48 chromosomes they won't be able to mate with humans that have 46 chromosomes. Not in this world or another world. It's like saying cats and dogs could cross breed and have healthy offspring.
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Xavi
Theories are just educated guess but nevertheless still a guess. Facts are the only truthful events that can be called science. Everything else should be called pre-science. It sends the wrong message to the population.
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Theories are just educated guess but nevertheless still a guess. Facts are the only truthful events that can be called science. Everything else should be called pre-science. It sends the wrong message to the population.
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Richard
Sapiens probably went to war and killed them all except some of their women.
The only thing that has changed is that now we just kill each other and every other creature on the planet.
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Sapiens probably went to war and killed them all except some of their women.
The only thing that has changed is that now we just kill each other and every other creature on the planet.
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Dagur
You're saying another human race was a different species? That's pretty racist bro. If they were a different species, how come some people have neandrathal blood in their veins?
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You're saying another human race was a different species? That's pretty racist bro. If they were a different species, how come some people have neandrathal blood in their veins?
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John
There are more methods of communication that just simply verbal. Sign language might be perfectly adequate once a common frame of reference and methodology had been established.
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There are more methods of communication that just simply verbal. Sign language might be perfectly adequate once a common frame of reference and methodology had been established.
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john
They lived in cold n inhospitable Europe in Asia for hundreds of thousands of years successfully even though their populations probably were not more than 5 or 10, 000
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They lived in cold n inhospitable Europe in Asia for hundreds of thousands of years successfully even though their populations probably were not more than 5 or 10, 000
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Bitchslapper316
I don't think it was a shock when they met one another. It's more likely they viewed one another as different tribes and not different species.
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I don't think it was a shock when they met one another. It's more likely they viewed one another as different tribes and not different species.
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wiseone101
I wonder if the majority of neanderthal and other non sapian dna found their way into our DNA by way of rape or consentual interbreeding? Any ideas?
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I wonder if the majority of neanderthal and other non sapian dna found their way into our DNA by way of rape or consentual interbreeding? Any ideas?
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Marvin
Well I don't know details but I myself look more like that Neanderthal than the description you show of the Homo Sapiien.
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Well I don't know details but I myself look more like that Neanderthal than the description you show of the Homo Sapiien.
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Star
23 and Me showed that I had Neanderthal DNA. I do have that awful red hair. It looks terrible on me. I dye my hair black.
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23 and Me showed that I had Neanderthal DNA. I do have that awful red hair. It looks terrible on me. I dye my hair black.
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