Why did The Ottoman Empire Destroy Itself? - Turkish War of Independence Part 1
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The Empire, which was already weak, collapsed when first the Committee of Union and Progress, supported by the Western powers, and then M. Kemal, supported by the Western powers, betrayed the state and staged a coup. As a result of the individuals ruling the new regime serving the western powers, the Republic of Turkey came to an end in the 80s. It existed as a semi-colonial state for 90 years and has entered a period of recovery in the last 10 years.
M. Kemal is not a Muslim and it is unknown whether he is a Turk or not btw.
There were officers from all nationalities in the Ottoman army. He was one of them, and it is possible that he was a Balkan Jew.
Before coming to power, he pretended to be a Muslim to gain the support of Muslims, and then he oppressed all Muslims. For Muslims and the Ottomans, he is a traitor.
He is not -Ataturk- for me or for the Muslim Turkish people. He does not deserve such a title, he gave him this title himself. Because it is easy for an ordinary dictator who does not even have a dynasty to think that he can give himself such titles. Saddam and Gaddafi also had many titles for themselves.
Great minds are humble and their titles are given to them by others. For example, -the mighty- Sultan Selim or -the conqueror- Sultan Mehmed or -the Magnificent- Sultan Suleiman.\r\n
Date: 2023-12-16
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-ArdaUnhail
Only a vassal state or a colony would have a war of independence, like Americans did in their war of independence against the British Empire. Turkish war of national liberation was a reaction to overextending grasp of victors of ww1. National Assembly of Constantinople migrated to Ankara and there was a continuation of govermental body. Even in the war, the assembly was not abolished, and/or not elected a dictator. Only, for the decisions about mobilizing the army, they appointed Mustafa Kemal as chief commander with authority to give executive orders in order to supply the army, and that is re-voted every three months, keeping the right to revoke the previlage anytime the assembly wishes. At that point, the defacto govermental system of the resistance movement was already a republic. The success of the campaign eventually led to abolishment of the monarchy and caliphate, and national assembly goverment evolved into a republic, putting an elected person as chief of the nation instead of the sultanate which is a form of -divine rule of a dynasty-. So in short, it should be labeled as -Turkish war of national liberation-.
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Only a vassal state or a colony would have a war of independence, like Americans did in their war of independence against the British Empire. Turkish war of national liberation was a reaction to overextending grasp of victors of ww1. National Assembly of Constantinople migrated to Ankara and there was a continuation of govermental body. Even in the war, the assembly was not abolished, and/or not elected a dictator. Only, for the decisions about mobilizing the army, they appointed Mustafa Kemal as chief commander with authority to give executive orders in order to supply the army, and that is re-voted every three months, keeping the right to revoke the previlage anytime the assembly wishes. At that point, the defacto govermental system of the resistance movement was already a republic. The success of the campaign eventually led to abolishment of the monarchy and caliphate, and national assembly goverment evolved into a republic, putting an elected person as chief of the nation instead of the sultanate which is a form of -divine rule of a dynasty-. So in short, it should be labeled as -Turkish war of national liberation-.
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-ibnaamir9915
I think you are missing the main reason of the Collapse of the Ottomans. It was the CUP, Sultan Abdulhamid II was the 36th sultan of the Empire, he for the most part had stopped the declinee of the Empire. Tanzimat (Modernization reached its climax) and He paid 90 percent of the Empires debts
Empire seemed to be doing fine under him,
Cup was revlotionary organization which sought to Dethrone Abdulhamud and bring about a Nationalost, Militaristic rule, So on 31st 1909 Abdulhamid was dethroned and sent into exile.
CUP controlled the Empire after him, they increased the debts of the empire, Lost Balkan wars whereas in Abdulhamids time Ottomans had defeated greece in just under a month known as 1897 greek turkish war.
i always though if Abdulhamid had stayed in power, Ottoman Empire would have completed its modernization, Extract oil and Become one of the Strongest Nation onn the planet bcz of its control of Arabian oil reserrves
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I think you are missing the main reason of the Collapse of the Ottomans. It was the CUP, Sultan Abdulhamid II was the 36th sultan of the Empire, he for the most part had stopped the declinee of the Empire. Tanzimat (Modernization reached its climax) and He paid 90 percent of the Empires debts
Empire seemed to be doing fine under him,
Cup was revlotionary organization which sought to Dethrone Abdulhamud and bring about a Nationalost, Militaristic rule, So on 31st 1909 Abdulhamid was dethroned and sent into exile.
CUP controlled the Empire after him, they increased the debts of the empire, Lost Balkan wars whereas in Abdulhamids time Ottomans had defeated greece in just under a month known as 1897 greek turkish war.
i always though if Abdulhamid had stayed in power, Ottoman Empire would have completed its modernization, Extract oil and Become one of the Strongest Nation onn the planet bcz of its control of Arabian oil reserrves
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-wrenchax
The Ottoman Empire is actually a Balkan centered state. It was not possible for it to continue its existence after losing the Balkans. If they had proceeded with a planned downsizing, we might be talking about different maps today. The army was spread over a very large area. It was extremely difficult to control and resupply. Instead, it was most logical to defend the Balkans and Anatolia and its surroundings. If they had sensed the danger coming from the Arabian deserts beforehand, we might have been talking about other things.
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The Ottoman Empire is actually a Balkan centered state. It was not possible for it to continue its existence after losing the Balkans. If they had proceeded with a planned downsizing, we might be talking about different maps today. The army was spread over a very large area. It was extremely difficult to control and resupply. Instead, it was most logical to defend the Balkans and Anatolia and its surroundings. If they had sensed the danger coming from the Arabian deserts beforehand, we might have been talking about other things.
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-AegeanGreywolf
Turks mostly accepted their fate prior to Treaty of Sevres. European superpowers have already seen as superiors by Turks decades ago before war. Even Constaninople was occupied with no resistance. But Greek landing in Smyrna and expansion into western anatolia caused a wildfire. Because Greeks were subjects for centuries and that act was unacceptable for Turks which caused rise of mass nationalism. If Greeks didnot land Smyrna, Eastern Thrace, Dardanelles and Bosphorus most likely would not belong to Turkey now.
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Turks mostly accepted their fate prior to Treaty of Sevres. European superpowers have already seen as superiors by Turks decades ago before war. Even Constaninople was occupied with no resistance. But Greek landing in Smyrna and expansion into western anatolia caused a wildfire. Because Greeks were subjects for centuries and that act was unacceptable for Turks which caused rise of mass nationalism. If Greeks didnot land Smyrna, Eastern Thrace, Dardanelles and Bosphorus most likely would not belong to Turkey now.
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-scottwarthin1528
Get a narrator from north america, like Canada or USA. The syntax of the script is being held back by the narrator's pronunciation. not his hidden accent. First word was -subsequent-. My grandfather learned to read and write english before learning to speak it. much like my immigrant grandfather's brilliance it is the sign of the smartest person of the family struggling to teach english to his dumb relatives, of course.
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Get a narrator from north america, like Canada or USA. The syntax of the script is being held back by the narrator's pronunciation. not his hidden accent. First word was -subsequent-. My grandfather learned to read and write english before learning to speak it. much like my immigrant grandfather's brilliance it is the sign of the smartest person of the family struggling to teach english to his dumb relatives, of course.
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-louiepaxos7285
Think about who where living there thousands of years ago and until Ww2 with the population exchange. The area was Greek lands and Armenian. The Turks came from Central Asia and Mongolia. They have no history in occupied territory, that they claim is there-s. The people that resemble the Greeks and Armenians that are living there, know the history.
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Think about who where living there thousands of years ago and until Ww2 with the population exchange. The area was Greek lands and Armenian. The Turks came from Central Asia and Mongolia. They have no history in occupied territory, that they claim is there-s. The people that resemble the Greeks and Armenians that are living there, know the history.
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-HayriCanAkyel
Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night
Every gal in Constantinople
Lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople
So if you've a date in Constantinople
She'll be waiting in Istanbul
(Also it is Izmir, not Smyrna)
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Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night
Every gal in Constantinople
Lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople
So if you've a date in Constantinople
She'll be waiting in Istanbul
(Also it is Izmir, not Smyrna)
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knowledgia
Things this video does not say
1 What indepenednce? It was a civil war.
2 the reason the greek troops shot at people in smyrna is because when they were marching in the streets, celebrated by the greek population, a turkish person fired a single shot at the greek army and so the greeks panicked
And many more.
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Things this video does not say
1 What indepenednce? It was a civil war.
2 the reason the greek troops shot at people in smyrna is because when they were marching in the streets, celebrated by the greek population, a turkish person fired a single shot at the greek army and so the greeks panicked
And many more.
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-hicgerekyoktu
in the last decades of the empire, the nations rebelled against the empire and had gained independence one by one. The Turks were just the last nation to rebel against the empire, which ended the empire. In the process, wars against the colonists were also won, the invasion having been repelled.
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in the last decades of the empire, the nations rebelled against the empire and had gained independence one by one. The Turks were just the last nation to rebel against the empire, which ended the empire. In the process, wars against the colonists were also won, the invasion having been repelled.
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-ayhanfedai5013
this war in Turkish is called -War of Survival- (Kurtulus Savasi) not War of Indipendence. That alone explains the determinaton of Turks. 2 million Turk massacred in Balkans 3 million run to Anatolia and 2 Million masacred in eastern Anatolia by Armenians
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this war in Turkish is called -War of Survival- (Kurtulus Savasi) not War of Indipendence. That alone explains the determinaton of Turks. 2 million Turk massacred in Balkans 3 million run to Anatolia and 2 Million masacred in eastern Anatolia by Armenians
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-stri2003
Independence from whom? The Ottoman Turks? What a distortion of the word independece What a distortion of history, to hide the genocides the turkish hordes commited against Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians, Kurds, Chaldeans and the rest of them!
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Independence from whom? The Ottoman Turks? What a distortion of the word independece What a distortion of history, to hide the genocides the turkish hordes commited against Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians, Kurds, Chaldeans and the rest of them!
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-issith7340
Because their basic mentality is not to produce, but steal from others. It-s keep going on today. Either, they are aggressive towards their neighbors or they steal one another. They can-t just stand on their own feet- they never could.
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Because their basic mentality is not to produce, but steal from others. It-s keep going on today. Either, they are aggressive towards their neighbors or they steal one another. They can-t just stand on their own feet- they never could.
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knowledgia
Anatolia should have been a diverse and cosmopolitan corner of the globe. With a greater Armenian nation, Greek western coast, a Kurdish state, a Pontic state and a separate international state around constantinople and the straits.
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Anatolia should have been a diverse and cosmopolitan corner of the globe. With a greater Armenian nation, Greek western coast, a Kurdish state, a Pontic state and a separate international state around constantinople and the straits.
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-BandytaL. N. G
I think that calling that war Turkish war of independence is weird, after WWI they wanted to take some territories but we can say it's loosing independence like Poland in 1795, war with Greeks was Greco-Turkish war
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I think that calling that war Turkish war of independence is weird, after WWI they wanted to take some territories but we can say it's loosing independence like Poland in 1795, war with Greeks was Greco-Turkish war
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knowledgia
You are looking from a Western perspective but at least trying to be neutral. Note: Vahdettin didnt handpicked Mustafa Kemal. Kemal himself used his friends in the ministry of war for the task.
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You are looking from a Western perspective but at least trying to be neutral. Note: Vahdettin didnt handpicked Mustafa Kemal. Kemal himself used his friends in the ministry of war for the task.
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-GoatTheGoat
I want to like your videos. But the constant annoying sound effects and way too loud music makes them unwatchable. Maybe concentrate on having your narrator be, I don't know, understandable.
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I want to like your videos. But the constant annoying sound effects and way too loud music makes them unwatchable. Maybe concentrate on having your narrator be, I don't know, understandable.
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-SuperThemis
Anatolia was conquered by the turks. Greeks have every right to take it back someday. I mean. Jews waited 2. 000 years to take back israel. Greeks can do it if they got another chance
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Anatolia was conquered by the turks. Greeks have every right to take it back someday. I mean. Jews waited 2. 000 years to take back israel. Greeks can do it if they got another chance
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-Halcon_Sierreno
If only the Ottoman's had fought as efficiently during the rest of WW1 as they did during the war of independence then the Central powers could've possibly won the war. -
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If only the Ottoman's had fought as efficiently during the rest of WW1 as they did during the war of independence then the Central powers could've possibly won the war. -
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-saladmcjones7798
Imagine a world where Greeks and Turks didn't pointlessly bicker on YT comments and actually put that effort into their economies. they might actually be functional!
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Imagine a world where Greeks and Turks didn't pointlessly bicker on YT comments and actually put that effort into their economies. they might actually be functional!
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-fersaherez2128
I see triggered Greeks and Armenians on comments of every video titled -Turkish-. It's been 100 years since we gain our independence and they still couldn't accept it.
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I see triggered Greeks and Armenians on comments of every video titled -Turkish-. It's been 100 years since we gain our independence and they still couldn't accept it.
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-MG-vs9ip
Turkey is a continuation of the Ottoman empire. That's why Turkey paid the debts to the Rothschild's. The debts of the Ottoman empire.
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Turkey is a continuation of the Ottoman empire. That's why Turkey paid the debts to the Rothschild's. The debts of the Ottoman empire.
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knowledgia
I truly believe ottoman empire handle multicultural the best. no it wasnt perfect but it wasnt a fixted thing in their society
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I truly believe ottoman empire handle multicultural the best. no it wasnt perfect but it wasnt a fixted thing in their society
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-brokenbridge6316
This is one really interesting time period. Glad I know more about it. Can't wait for part 2 to come. Whenever that is.
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This is one really interesting time period. Glad I know more about it. Can't wait for part 2 to come. Whenever that is.
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-israilkolas5853
Bursa and Erzurum were by far majority Turkish and Istanbul ( Constantinople at the time) had a Turkish plurality
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Bursa and Erzurum were by far majority Turkish and Istanbul ( Constantinople at the time) had a Turkish plurality
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knowledgia
It was an informative and wonderful introduction about last year's of WW1 in Ottoman empire. thank you for sharing
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It was an informative and wonderful introduction about last year's of WW1 in Ottoman empire. thank you for sharing
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knowledgia
spare us from these Canadian announcers please! Their inability to pronounce the English language is insufferable.
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spare us from these Canadian announcers please! Their inability to pronounce the English language is insufferable.
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-ondercigir
Turkey has never been colonized therefore it is wrong to call it indipendent war. it is just a war like others.
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Turkey has never been colonized therefore it is wrong to call it indipendent war. it is just a war like others.
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-derrickstorm6976
Man that high school level introduction really didn't deserve to end with, -this video is sponsored by-
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Man that high school level introduction really didn't deserve to end with, -this video is sponsored by-
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-Beyond12345
The common story in the Muslim world is that the hidden Jews as kamal Ataturk was the reason of the fall
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The common story in the Muslim world is that the hidden Jews as kamal Ataturk was the reason of the fall
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