How did the Eastern Romans Trade with China?
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Date: 2023-12-16
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-James-rm7sr
I really hate the term Byzantium. There are times stating it right. Romans as they saw themselves as Roman. Also, they had silk production in Rome, but what happened to it is lost. It isn't sure that if Chinese silk originally just was so much cheaper due to production rates that they stopped making their own which after the Chinese raised the prices rather gradually throughout time. It is like stated which was the trade was going on long before the west fell. The Eastern Roman Empire was very much Roman. It didn't lose its Roman status due to the city of Rome being lost. Both the West and East moved away from Rome for different reasons. It just is a bit annoying talking about Rome in the East as if they are not Roman in one sentence, but the next call it something it was never called.
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I really hate the term Byzantium. There are times stating it right. Romans as they saw themselves as Roman. Also, they had silk production in Rome, but what happened to it is lost. It isn't sure that if Chinese silk originally just was so much cheaper due to production rates that they stopped making their own which after the Chinese raised the prices rather gradually throughout time. It is like stated which was the trade was going on long before the west fell. The Eastern Roman Empire was very much Roman. It didn't lose its Roman status due to the city of Rome being lost. Both the West and East moved away from Rome for different reasons. It just is a bit annoying talking about Rome in the East as if they are not Roman in one sentence, but the next call it something it was never called.
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-OverTheTop85
China's largest export! Viruses, Plagues, Death! Some are made in the wild, some from eating weird meat, and others in labs! Don't forget after the virus -escaped- from the lab China shut down their domestic flights but Not their international? Not wanting to spread it through their country yet F--k the rest of the world. Mostly The West. They were even doing it back then to the Romans! So funny to me.
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China's largest export! Viruses, Plagues, Death! Some are made in the wild, some from eating weird meat, and others in labs! Don't forget after the virus -escaped- from the lab China shut down their domestic flights but Not their international? Not wanting to spread it through their country yet F--k the rest of the world. Mostly The West. They were even doing it back then to the Romans! So funny to me.
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-2whostruckjohn
I'd suggest reading through Raoul McLoughlin's book, -The Roman Empire and the Indian Ocean: The Ancient World Economy and the Kingdoms of Africa, Arabia, and India. - He makes the case that in the period 0-200 CE, trade tax revenues on the seaborne trade from Egypt to Arabia, east Africa, and India were 50% of Imperial revenue.
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I'd suggest reading through Raoul McLoughlin's book, -The Roman Empire and the Indian Ocean: The Ancient World Economy and the Kingdoms of Africa, Arabia, and India. - He makes the case that in the period 0-200 CE, trade tax revenues on the seaborne trade from Egypt to Arabia, east Africa, and India were 50% of Imperial revenue.
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-frankhill4358
By the way the origins of the Bubonic plague is still disputed but more evidence recently is pointing to the origins being in Central Asia around modern day Kyrgyzstan, with then China and the Silk Road spreading the disease which is also what caused confusion about the origins of the plague.
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By the way the origins of the Bubonic plague is still disputed but more evidence recently is pointing to the origins being in Central Asia around modern day Kyrgyzstan, with then China and the Silk Road spreading the disease which is also what caused confusion about the origins of the plague.
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-frankhill4358
In a weird way, China is like if the Roman-s never fell. I mean the current size of China is larger than the Han Dynasty. While there have been civil wars, the size of China has more or less been preserved throughout history which is fairly impressive as of course that is a long time.
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In a weird way, China is like if the Roman-s never fell. I mean the current size of China is larger than the Han Dynasty. While there have been civil wars, the size of China has more or less been preserved throughout history which is fairly impressive as of course that is a long time.
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-JAlucard77
It's sad to think just how mankind would have evolved if not for the fall of both THE EASTERN & WESTERN ROMAN EMPIRES. THE FALL OF THESE GREAT EMPIRES LIKE GREECE AND ROME ARE SOME OF HISTORYS GREATEST TRAGEDIES. THE LOST KNOWLEDGE ALONE IS TERRIFIC.
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It's sad to think just how mankind would have evolved if not for the fall of both THE EASTERN & WESTERN ROMAN EMPIRES. THE FALL OF THESE GREAT EMPIRES LIKE GREECE AND ROME ARE SOME OF HISTORYS GREATEST TRAGEDIES. THE LOST KNOWLEDGE ALONE IS TERRIFIC.
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-JelMain
China thought Rome had it's own silk industry, because the cloth coming from the west was better quality, when in fact it was Chinese silk, in a very raw state, being respun. Things just don't change, why use QC on goods for the gwai-lo?
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China thought Rome had it's own silk industry, because the cloth coming from the west was better quality, when in fact it was Chinese silk, in a very raw state, being respun. Things just don't change, why use QC on goods for the gwai-lo?
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-lolbruhcheesebruh
There isn't a -Byzantine Empire- only Roman Empire, even the people living in it called it the Roman Empire, Rome never fell only the Western half did, or you can say they lost the western half to the Germanic tribes.
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There isn't a -Byzantine Empire- only Roman Empire, even the people living in it called it the Roman Empire, Rome never fell only the Western half did, or you can say they lost the western half to the Germanic tribes.
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-dshock85
gotta move on from the term Byzantine. Once the western Roman half of the empire collapsed. the eastern half became the sole ROMAN EMPIRE until 1453. The Holy Roman Empire was a pretender state. Period
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gotta move on from the term Byzantine. Once the western Roman half of the empire collapsed. the eastern half became the sole ROMAN EMPIRE until 1453. The Holy Roman Empire was a pretender state. Period
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-vajraheart6052
Which current country is closest to the core of Byzantine? I assume Greece.
Also is it why it-s arch enemy is still Turkey whom their predecessors Ottoman and Seljuk-s toppled the Byzantine.
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Which current country is closest to the core of Byzantine? I assume Greece.
Also is it why it-s arch enemy is still Turkey whom their predecessors Ottoman and Seljuk-s toppled the Byzantine.
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-hfar_in_the_sky
Guess when you effectively control the entire coastline of the Eastern Mediterranean, the Isthmus of Suez, and the Nile Delta, most people don't have much of a choice but to go through you
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Guess when you effectively control the entire coastline of the Eastern Mediterranean, the Isthmus of Suez, and the Nile Delta, most people don't have much of a choice but to go through you
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-skylinelover9276
The silk road was born because of the Greco Bactrians/Indo greeks and china in ancient times. Greeks and Chinese/Indians is already have significant relationship since in ancient times.
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The silk road was born because of the Greco Bactrians/Indo greeks and china in ancient times. Greeks and Chinese/Indians is already have significant relationship since in ancient times.
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-Ghostrex101
The Byzantine empire was not Roman. It's usually Roman fanboys who like to think that is. It was basically a Greek kingdom. Greeks who inherited the eastern half of the Roman empire.
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The Byzantine empire was not Roman. It's usually Roman fanboys who like to think that is. It was basically a Greek kingdom. Greeks who inherited the eastern half of the Roman empire.
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knowledgia
8: 41 wonder if this price hike forced by Justinian was part of the legend behind Tyrian Purple dye aka royal purple so expensive only royals could have it
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8: 41 wonder if this price hike forced by Justinian was part of the legend behind Tyrian Purple dye aka royal purple so expensive only royals could have it
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knowledgia
Awesome info I don-t know much about the Byzantine Empire. Only the Roman republic and Roman Empire. Haven-t got into much about Eastern Roman Empire.
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Awesome info I don-t know much about the Byzantine Empire. Only the Roman republic and Roman Empire. Haven-t got into much about Eastern Roman Empire.
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-Helenross-jq8ls
How does this trading stuff work? Am interested but I just don't know how it go about it. I heard people really making it huge trading
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How does this trading stuff work? Am interested but I just don't know how it go about it. I heard people really making it huge trading
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-dwarasamudra8889
Why is there always so much hype around Roman-Chinese Trade and Relations when by far the biggest Trade partner of Rome was India.
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Why is there always so much hype around Roman-Chinese Trade and Relations when by far the biggest Trade partner of Rome was India.
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-user-jt1cv2ej6r
The Eastern Roman Empire was NOT an extension of the Western Roman Empire, it was the continuation of the Roman Empire.
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The Eastern Roman Empire was NOT an extension of the Western Roman Empire, it was the continuation of the Roman Empire.
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-georgekaziyev5423
Hi. Long time fan. Is it true that Jews basically had a monopoly on animal skin, and animal hides in Byzantine empire
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Hi. Long time fan. Is it true that Jews basically had a monopoly on animal skin, and animal hides in Byzantine empire
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knowledgia
Fun fact: One of the byzantine empires greatest allies, was the axum empire. Alot of the trade from India came through them.
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Fun fact: One of the byzantine empires greatest allies, was the axum empire. Alot of the trade from India came through them.
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-genovayork2468
The Byzantine empire wasn't an extension of the Western Roman Empire lmao, they were both the successors of Rome.
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The Byzantine empire wasn't an extension of the Western Roman Empire lmao, they were both the successors of Rome.
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knowledgia
In Age of Empires as the Byzantines I usually just make a bunch of trade carts and protect them with Cataphracts
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In Age of Empires as the Byzantines I usually just make a bunch of trade carts and protect them with Cataphracts
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-user-no4su7je2n
I am from Greece and one of the most popular last names here is Metaxas which means: -trader of silk-
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I am from Greece and one of the most popular last names here is Metaxas which means: -trader of silk-
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-KhansDen
04: 17 That-s gotta be the Gok-Turks (Celestial, Eastern, not the Go-Turks. Would be a cool name nonetheless.
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04: 17 That-s gotta be the Gok-Turks (Celestial, Eastern, not the Go-Turks. Would be a cool name nonetheless.
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-callumwarwar
Why do we call the Eastern Roman Empire the Byzantine Empire? Shouldn't we just call it the Roman Empire?
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Why do we call the Eastern Roman Empire the Byzantine Empire? Shouldn't we just call it the Roman Empire?
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-dantetre
Fun Fact: Byzantine Empire never existed.
After 476 it was called Roman Empire and lasted until 1453.
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Fun Fact: Byzantine Empire never existed.
After 476 it was called Roman Empire and lasted until 1453.
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-lerneanlion
if the Romans did not smuggle silkworms from the Great Tang, will the Justinian plague still happened?
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if the Romans did not smuggle silkworms from the Great Tang, will the Justinian plague still happened?
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knowledgia
Roman-Chinese relations is one of the most fascinating and overlooked topics in ancient history to me!
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Roman-Chinese relations is one of the most fascinating and overlooked topics in ancient history to me!
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