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Why did Austria-Hungary Collapse?

Why did Austria-Hungary Collapse?

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Why did Austria-Hungary Collapse? This video is based on outdated WW1 propaganda, nationalism wasn't strong just some radicals, evidence is the Italian-Austrians didn't want to join Italy for example, and the rest wanted equal status not to destroy the Empire since it was a great benefit to be part of a massive and powerful country.
Crazy how early XXth century propaganda is still strong.

Date: 2023-12-16

Comments and reviews: 27


So. with out getting too technical ( you can read these points in books and encyclopedias.
The Hapsburgs married into the Hungarian monarchy, thus acquiring Hungary. Hungary had been a kingdom for hundreds of years before hand since medieval times. The Hungarian kingdom had been recognized as a Holy Christian kingdom by the Pope and its rulers given a Holy crown by the Pope. Due to the invasios of the Mongols and later Ottoman invasions, the Hungarian ethnic Magyar populations were devastated. As time past and history went on the Hungarian nobility turned to a policy of open immigration to remedy this. For becoming loyal citizens of the Kingdom of Hungary the new influx of Germans, Poles, Slavs, Checzs, Croatians, Romanians, etc were allowed to live on or own the land, farm, conduct business and trade etc. Provided they paid their taxes and swore fealty to their Hungarian lords, and uphold the laws of the kingdom all would be fine. So it was thought and you can see where this would lead.
Hungarian nobility and citizenry were never very happy with their kingdom becoming vassals of the Austrian Hapsburgs. This lead to many uprisings and political machinations until the formation of the Dual Empire status, such as the Hungarian Revolution of 1848. But still turmoil persisted up to WW1.
History has discovered that
Hungarian independence movements and forces have been linked to the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, working with and or supplying Serbian independence groups at the time.
The Treaty of Trianon stripped the Kingdom of Hungary of her lands including Transylvania which had been ruled by Magyar lords since the Kingdoms founding. Now although many ethnic peoples had come to call these torn away territories as home the lands still held millions of Hungarians, 3. 3 million, 31% of the Hungarian population, as well.

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Francesco Nitti, Prime Minister of Italy,
September 1924:
-No country was perished more viciously in
Trianon than Hungary. But this country is
dwelled by spiritually strong people, who won't
be resigned to the demolition of their country.
Hungary's dismembering is so dishonourable
that no one takes responsibility for it.
Everybody acts like they don't know about it,
everybody is in coy silence. The reference to
the right of nations' self-determination is only
an untrue formula. they misused their victory
in the most vicious way. There's no French,
English or Italian who would accept the
conditions forced to Hungary for their own
nation. -
Herbert Henry Asquith, Prime Minister of the
United Kingdom for 8 years, 1925:
-This treaty is no work of statesmen, but the
result of severe and fatal deceptions. -
Vladimir Iljic Lenin:
-The treaty was forced down their throat, but
this is a usurious treaty, the treaty of murderers
and butchers. unprecedented, predacious
treaty. this is no treaty, these are conditions
that scampsmen dictate with knives in their
hands to unprotected victims. -
Lloyd George, Prime Minister of the U. K, in his
speech on the 7th of October, 1929:
-The whole documentation that we received
from our allies at the peace talk, was deceitfuland untrue. We came to a decision on false
principles-
Arthur Neville Chamberlain, Prime Minister of
the U. K.:
-The result of the Treaty of Trianon in Europe is
not peace, but the fear of another war. -

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I wouldn't say that Austria lost 60% of it's territory. These -Austrian- lands were officially called -Kingdoms and Lands represented in the Imperial Council-. As you can see, there is no -Austria- in the name of this country. And for a good reason. Unlike Hungary, these lands never formed a single country. The Habsburg monarchy that eventually evolved into Austria-Hungary started in 1526 as a personal union between Austria, Bohemia (Czechia) and Hungary. Austria was an Archduchy, while Bohemia and Hungary were kingdoms, i. e. they were above Austria in terms of hierarchy/precedence (plus the king of Bohemia was a prince-elector, unlike the archduke of Austria. Bohemia/Czechia never belonged to Austria (as in present-day -German- Austria, they were merely ruled by the same person/dynasty and eventually happened to be known collectively as -Austria- or the -Austrian Empire-. But this was really just an umbrella term. When the empire collapsed, this meaning of the word -Austria- ended with it. The remaing Archduchy of Austria and the other Austrian lands (Styria, Tyrol, etc) had no historical claim on the other parts of the former empire. The only territory Austria actually lost was Carniola (Slovenia, Istria and Trieste and South Tyrol.
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The Empire relied on its wealth and the ability to make money to coax the minorities into staying within the Empire. And WW1 indeed played an important role in shattering the ancient Empire as the prosperity provided by the Empire quickly vanished and the death of Emperor Franz Joseph in November 1916 was like the killing blow as studying the texts from the Era shows many minorities within the Empire used to proclaim that they don't have allegiance to the Empire but allegiance to Franz Joseph and many Identified Loyalty to the Empire with Loyalty to Franz Joseph. It was an enormous blow the Nation and the war effort and many minorities after the war said, Emperor Joseph's funeral was the last time the Empire came together in mourning and Emperor Karl never managed to gain the Loyalty of his people in a way where they would give their lives for him unconditionally
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All false. Hungary was punished because we have the Holy Crown, which have a veto rule ABOVE the Vatican and the popes. So this plan was made when we 4th time came in the Carpathians, in the 800s, but they did not succeed to destroy us completelly, even now. This is not conspiracy theory, these are the facts.
We, Hungarians are the only ones who can and could effectivelly and kindly lead the Carpathians. And who rule the Central of Europe, that will lead Europe.
Just go back in time and see why Western Europe did not send us any help against Ottoman invasion. and the sins of the West is endless.

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When you try to incorporate to many different cultures and ethnicities and Races under one roof there will be cultural, Racial, Religious and political clashes and just plain not getting along. The Government in power will favor one ethnic culture over another and the basis for trouble has started. The United States fought a Revolutionary War with England for Independence to become a sovereign Nation, so we are today.
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Poor and amateurish short history, many basic factual mistakes.
Let's finally lose the -slav- tropes and call nations by their actual names. Imagine calling Austrians, germanics or Hungarians, finno-ugric.
It's insulting, patronizing and historically illiterate.
Seems to be a childish regurgitation after spending 5mins on Wikipedia.
Try harder.

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Nationalist movements had been put down or controlled by the Habsburgs for hundreds of years. It was the Allied forces that were scared of the Empire. Like with their colonies, Austria-Hungary had to be chopped up into small pieces - preferably mixing nationalities across borders to create potential future chaos.
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Because France and Great Britain said so. They were driven by their own power policy and the local small pseudonations untruth arguments empowered their will to do so. It was so simple. I know lot of people will be f-cked up by this, but this is the truth. Check it, but not on wikipedia.
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Very informative video about the collapse of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. I've always been fascinated by this period in history. I especially found the discussion of nationalism and the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand to be very interesting. Thanks for sharing!
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Question for the experts:
Could a federation like system ( similar to the usa union or the German one ) have been put in place from its founding and would it have helped at all?

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German dynasty rule over 80% Slavic people on their theritory. This had to end badly but we Poles head fredom of Languege, culture and science. Long Live Emperor Francis: D
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Multiculturalism destroyed the Austria-Hungary Empire because several rebellious ethnicities throughout the empire broke into several ethnic nation-states. -
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If only the Austrian Emperor worked much harder to keep his Empire together after joining with Hungry. Would history have been different had that occurred.
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At the time or wasn-t known officially as Lviv or Lvov. It was Lemberg. If you use the names the countries had at the time, you must do the same for cities.
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I think you summarised it pretty well, a multicultural empire in an age of nationalism was doomed to fail and World War I was the final straw
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Somebody really really really doesn-t want the various Balkan people-s united whatsoever. monke stronger together, but fading from neglect.
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Hungarians in Empire: We want independence -
Ethnic Groups in Hungary: We want independence too ---
-Wait what? You can't do that.

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anyobody knows what music is it from 10: 38 onwards? I searched many songs in the Epidemic Sound repertoire and I couldn't find it
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I can tell you watched the WW1 film from epic history because you literally use the same sentences that the narrator said
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Why you show the Romanian flag at 8: 01 if you speak about: Hungary was free, and Austria Hungary had gone up in flames?
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9: 45 How can Austro-Hungarian land fall back into Italian hand when these territories had never been part of Italy before?
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Both my grandparents fought for Austria-Ungary and were very proud to be part of it even though not German speakers.
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whenever you mess with croats and serbs, you find yourself in such a mess without realizing how it even began, well.
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It-s not -slovenians, croatians, serbians, bosnians- but the -kingdom of serbs, croats and slovenes-.
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12: 20 The empire was split on railroad lines!
On both sides of the new border Hungarians were living!

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I think the main reason behind the collapse of the empire is the weird dystopic wildlife of Australia.
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