How to Write Counterpoint - Music Composition
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Date: 2022-03-28
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Philip
I like this, really helpful.
But I'm looking into counterpoint, and the strict species approach to write SATB music with rich harmonic textures
And then, a brick wall I did hit.
I'm finding the rules of the species to be at odds with modern, complex jazz-like harmonic structures. The use of allegedly illegal dissonant intervals found in bog standard seventh and extended chords makes it difficult to apply species to anything but common practice classical pieces.
Is there any way that I can still use strict species counterpoint for modern harmonies or will I just need to use free counterpoint?
By the way, if you had a book on super advanced theory, I'd buy it ASAP, as your explanations are always of top quality.
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I like this, really helpful.
But I'm looking into counterpoint, and the strict species approach to write SATB music with rich harmonic textures
And then, a brick wall I did hit.
I'm finding the rules of the species to be at odds with modern, complex jazz-like harmonic structures. The use of allegedly illegal dissonant intervals found in bog standard seventh and extended chords makes it difficult to apply species to anything but common practice classical pieces.
Is there any way that I can still use strict species counterpoint for modern harmonies or will I just need to use free counterpoint?
By the way, if you had a book on super advanced theory, I'd buy it ASAP, as your explanations are always of top quality.
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David
This aspect of music has been missing from a lot of music education for years and I can't understand why. Counterpoint is one of the most interesting music theory tools and makes the music much more multi dimensional and capable of sustaining interest over repeated listenings. It doesn't just have to be in Baroque style either - listen to the Beach Boys.
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This aspect of music has been missing from a lot of music education for years and I can't understand why. Counterpoint is one of the most interesting music theory tools and makes the music much more multi dimensional and capable of sustaining interest over repeated listenings. It doesn't just have to be in Baroque style either - listen to the Beach Boys.
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Mihai
I love this first-person perspective and inspirational comments. This might have been how Bach thought about counterpoint and approached his masterpieces. I wish unbearable and often tedious music education would be more like presented here because after all the many books - music matters!
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I love this first-person perspective and inspirational comments. This might have been how Bach thought about counterpoint and approached his masterpieces. I wish unbearable and often tedious music education would be more like presented here because after all the many books - music matters!
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Acrid
Why do you write inversions as 'Ib' rather than 'I6?' Isn't that much more intuitive from a counterpoint perspective? I would also mention how to prepare and resolve dissonances properly; otherwise, the music shall play like a nursery rhyme rather than a real piece.
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Why do you write inversions as 'Ib' rather than 'I6?' Isn't that much more intuitive from a counterpoint perspective? I would also mention how to prepare and resolve dissonances properly; otherwise, the music shall play like a nursery rhyme rather than a real piece.
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JB24
I have an honest question. Why does this matter now? Why do musicians need to know this in order to be successful composers of any genre of the last 100 years? Aren't there so many successful musicians who routinely break the rules?
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I have an honest question. Why does this matter now? Why do musicians need to know this in order to be successful composers of any genre of the last 100 years? Aren't there so many successful musicians who routinely break the rules?
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David
This might sound a little embarrassing but I never knew why people called Bach an absolute genius. I never really understood his work enough to call him a genius. But seeing this video i now know, oof...HE WAS A GENIUS
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This might sound a little embarrassing but I never knew why people called Bach an absolute genius. I never really understood his work enough to call him a genius. But seeing this video i now know, oof...HE WAS A GENIUS
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aronhidman1
The -point- in counterpoint refers to a note and not a motif like you suggest. It comes from the latin -punctus contra punctum- --point against point- or -note against note-.
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The -point- in counterpoint refers to a note and not a motif like you suggest. It comes from the latin -punctus contra punctum- --point against point- or -note against note-.
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RuthButlerMusic
Hello! I don-t know if you are still checking messages, but theoretically speaking why did you label the chord with A in the base and F5 in the atop as Ib?
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Hello! I don-t know if you are still checking messages, but theoretically speaking why did you label the chord with A in the base and F5 in the atop as Ib?
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RuthButlerMusic
Thank you for this! I would LOVE to hear this piece completed! It seems to fit right in with Bach-s 2 part inventions! Truly beautiful start.
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Thank you for this! I would LOVE to hear this piece completed! It seems to fit right in with Bach-s 2 part inventions! Truly beautiful start.
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Дух
(-7.40-ish) 'fragmentary ideas', a cool expression because it brings to mind the notion of fractal geometry, or be that fractal melodies as it were-
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(-7.40-ish) 'fragmentary ideas', a cool expression because it brings to mind the notion of fractal geometry, or be that fractal melodies as it were-
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