How do schools of fish swim in harmony? - Nathan S. Jacobs
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Date: 2020-08-22
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Joey
Please let it be noted, however, that there is no reductionist explanation for HOW the fish do this so instantaneously. We can postulate WHY, we can observe the patterns for how it looks, we can give it a fancy name like emergence, but how they actually do this is a mystery yet to be explained by materialist science. It has been theorized that schools of fish, for example, are tuned into a single field of information, something we might liken to a group mind. But that breaks the old paradigms of science! And as far as what consciousness is. that the is biggest mystery of all, for it is the mystery trying to figure out itself!
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Please let it be noted, however, that there is no reductionist explanation for HOW the fish do this so instantaneously. We can postulate WHY, we can observe the patterns for how it looks, we can give it a fancy name like emergence, but how they actually do this is a mystery yet to be explained by materialist science. It has been theorized that schools of fish, for example, are tuned into a single field of information, something we might liken to a group mind. But that breaks the old paradigms of science! And as far as what consciousness is. that the is biggest mystery of all, for it is the mystery trying to figure out itself!
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Sam
My neurons got deactivated and went to sleep while watching this video. But an interesting concept.
There is no leader required if you follow a systematic order which reduces chaos to very minimal. But sometimes (or most of the time, there are weak neurons or fish and you care about them. So you need a leader to push & motivate them and tag them along as long she/he/they can. The leader can be an individual piece or a group of people.
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My neurons got deactivated and went to sleep while watching this video. But an interesting concept.
There is no leader required if you follow a systematic order which reduces chaos to very minimal. But sometimes (or most of the time, there are weak neurons or fish and you care about them. So you need a leader to push & motivate them and tag them along as long she/he/they can. The leader can be an individual piece or a group of people.
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Plasmodium
This is a simplistic way of explaining something shrouded in mystery at present. To say emergence phenomena can explain away the complex nature of swarming is being simplistic. The response of fish or birds to movement of the other is instantaneous- to depend on senses and relay information to and fro neurons takes too long!
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This is a simplistic way of explaining something shrouded in mystery at present. To say emergence phenomena can explain away the complex nature of swarming is being simplistic. The response of fish or birds to movement of the other is instantaneous- to depend on senses and relay information to and fro neurons takes too long!
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Yarbloco
I think this is very relatable to anarchism. Close to your neighbour, but not to close; and keep going forward. So: be a community, without imposing things on others; and keep working on yourself and your goals. Kropotkin would have loved this video xD
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I think this is very relatable to anarchism. Close to your neighbour, but not to close; and keep going forward. So: be a community, without imposing things on others; and keep working on yourself and your goals. Kropotkin would have loved this video xD
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OntiverosPhD
Emergence is very interesting, but it is very much debatable whether it can explain the human mind. In other words, REASON or the RATIONAL MIND, which distinguishes us from the rest of the animals, it is very likely NOT explained by emergence.
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Emergence is very interesting, but it is very much debatable whether it can explain the human mind. In other words, REASON or the RATIONAL MIND, which distinguishes us from the rest of the animals, it is very likely NOT explained by emergence.
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ado
yes but to follow the rule stay close but not to close 1 fish must change direction therefore all the others are response to this change. So can we say that a spontaneous leader exist? e. g. the fish which is near to the shark?
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yes but to follow the rule stay close but not to close 1 fish must change direction therefore all the others are response to this change. So can we say that a spontaneous leader exist? e. g. the fish which is near to the shark?
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Pranks
I don't understand. fish make school to avoid predators. but these schools are the reason they are devoured mercilessly by predators. whole schools are eaten by predator fishes in Matter of minutes. .
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I don't understand. fish make school to avoid predators. but these schools are the reason they are devoured mercilessly by predators. whole schools are eaten by predator fishes in Matter of minutes. .
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ScienceDiscoverer
Only 1 thing is bothering me. Why school of fish is called school like educational institution in human society? English language is super weird!
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Only 1 thing is bothering me. Why school of fish is called school like educational institution in human society? English language is super weird!
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Simon
I wonder if this could/was applied to software development (a methodology inspired by it. In scrum 'self organising teams' seem far more rigid than this.
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I wonder if this could/was applied to software development (a methodology inspired by it. In scrum 'self organising teams' seem far more rigid than this.
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