The Great Syphilis Pandemic's True Origins The Syphilis Enigma Timeline
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Date: 2022-07-19
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Patrick
Time Index 33. 20, This could all have been done via phone conference and video. You can scan the photos over also. These is no need to fly half way round the world for a meeting like this. It's idiots like this we need to remove from jobs like this, causing a massive carbon footprint.
And wasting University money.
By the way George is an idiot. If you have even one find with a carbon dating showing the disease was present before Columbus set sail then the question is how did it get there.
And for Columbus to say he brought back a new disease, well i'd be asking that before this date i don't think people were keeping records correctly or even know what this disease was.
That said you also have the coffins dating back which in it's self adds proof to the fact that the disease was present before Columbus.
How on earth these people hold down or attained the jobs they do is beyond me.
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Time Index 33. 20, This could all have been done via phone conference and video. You can scan the photos over also. These is no need to fly half way round the world for a meeting like this. It's idiots like this we need to remove from jobs like this, causing a massive carbon footprint.
And wasting University money.
By the way George is an idiot. If you have even one find with a carbon dating showing the disease was present before Columbus set sail then the question is how did it get there.
And for Columbus to say he brought back a new disease, well i'd be asking that before this date i don't think people were keeping records correctly or even know what this disease was.
That said you also have the coffins dating back which in it's self adds proof to the fact that the disease was present before Columbus.
How on earth these people hold down or attained the jobs they do is beyond me.
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education
Deception encourages people to overlook & subconsciously accept propagandist, anti-Christian comments such as, This disease represented the wrath of God, PUNISHING wicked people for their immorality.
No! Then, like now, God DOESN'T punish people on Earth, for their immorality. He gave us Free Will. He's NEVER going to punish us for using it. He invites us to be with Him. He told us how to be with Him. He wishes we would CHOOSE to be with Him. And, your suffering causes Him to suffer. This truth will be revealed in the end, but will you wait until then, until it's too late to choose?
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Deception encourages people to overlook & subconsciously accept propagandist, anti-Christian comments such as, This disease represented the wrath of God, PUNISHING wicked people for their immorality.
No! Then, like now, God DOESN'T punish people on Earth, for their immorality. He gave us Free Will. He's NEVER going to punish us for using it. He invites us to be with Him. He told us how to be with Him. He wishes we would CHOOSE to be with Him. And, your suffering causes Him to suffer. This truth will be revealed in the end, but will you wait until then, until it's too late to choose?
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richard
Yaws was not mentioned. More than feasible that yaws also caused by Treponema Pallidum was transmitted to Hull from Africa via Spanish traders in 15 century or earlier. It mutated and attacked and caused the bone changes described in the documentary. So it still leaves open New World to Old transmission of syphylis but with intermittent severe effects of Yaws seen on some archaeological sites amongst populations who had no immunity. This is a valid hypothesis. Yaws can be a nasty illness and is usually transmitted amongst children.
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Yaws was not mentioned. More than feasible that yaws also caused by Treponema Pallidum was transmitted to Hull from Africa via Spanish traders in 15 century or earlier. It mutated and attacked and caused the bone changes described in the documentary. So it still leaves open New World to Old transmission of syphylis but with intermittent severe effects of Yaws seen on some archaeological sites amongst populations who had no immunity. This is a valid hypothesis. Yaws can be a nasty illness and is usually transmitted amongst children.
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Sapphire
I find it so funny George has been presented with the evidence that before Columbus there were cases of the disease. Proving that this disease came from Europe and he and his crew took it over to the Americas (which is still ignorantly reffered to as the Indians. Not only is it ignorance but what bothers me the most is many of these countries Columbus went to visit he and his members brought filthy illnesses and then tried to say it was them who gave it to Europe. Why? Can never accept the blame where it is due.
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I find it so funny George has been presented with the evidence that before Columbus there were cases of the disease. Proving that this disease came from Europe and he and his crew took it over to the Americas (which is still ignorantly reffered to as the Indians. Not only is it ignorance but what bothers me the most is many of these countries Columbus went to visit he and his members brought filthy illnesses and then tried to say it was them who gave it to Europe. Why? Can never accept the blame where it is due.
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timeline
That guy really didn't want there to be evidence against his pet theory. I've seen this one before, but I'd forgotten most of what it says, so it was good to watch again. Since I reminded my wife of the important bits, she's not going to bother re-watching it.
To be honest, it bugs me greatly, that there are so many scientists who drag their heels, trying to hold onto their pet theories, instead of getting excited about new discoveries, like they ought to. They're probably a small minority, just loud.
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That guy really didn't want there to be evidence against his pet theory. I've seen this one before, but I'd forgotten most of what it says, so it was good to watch again. Since I reminded my wife of the important bits, she's not going to bother re-watching it.
To be honest, it bugs me greatly, that there are so many scientists who drag their heels, trying to hold onto their pet theories, instead of getting excited about new discoveries, like they ought to. They're probably a small minority, just loud.
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Teresa
I think this film brings up another question: If the bacteria had been in both the Americas and Europe (at least, when did contact happen in the far distant past that allowed all of humanity to be exposed to this? Are we to understand that the bacterium is so old it entered the Americas with the ancient populations who first arrived? If not, then between whom and when was the bacteriological exchange happening? Vikings? Polynesians? Someone even older?
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I think this film brings up another question: If the bacteria had been in both the Americas and Europe (at least, when did contact happen in the far distant past that allowed all of humanity to be exposed to this? Are we to understand that the bacterium is so old it entered the Americas with the ancient populations who first arrived? If not, then between whom and when was the bacteriological exchange happening? Vikings? Polynesians? Someone even older?
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METADATA
What a gift to the puritans such diseases would have prented - amd still do. In line with other comments would have been so much more enjoyable without the weird music in the middle ground - so off putting. The narrator made a comment, midway, about the monks being very poor and were beggars then 10 minutes later - they were exploiting fear of death - where merchant and aristocratic classes could pat their wy into heaven in the form of 'indulgnces'.
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What a gift to the puritans such diseases would have prented - amd still do. In line with other comments would have been so much more enjoyable without the weird music in the middle ground - so off putting. The narrator made a comment, midway, about the monks being very poor and were beggars then 10 minutes later - they were exploiting fear of death - where merchant and aristocratic classes could pat their wy into heaven in the form of 'indulgnces'.
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Monica
Of course they continue to blame Original Native people. Im so tired of the B. s. given by western civilization. Original Native people bathed daily, and had toothpaste. How can they continue to trash an entire hemisphere? These people are guilty of blatant disregard for human dignity. They continue to enslave, maime, and murder Original Native people with the detention centers. Lord help us to forgive these vile people.
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Of course they continue to blame Original Native people. Im so tired of the B. s. given by western civilization. Original Native people bathed daily, and had toothpaste. How can they continue to trash an entire hemisphere? These people are guilty of blatant disregard for human dignity. They continue to enslave, maime, and murder Original Native people with the detention centers. Lord help us to forgive these vile people.
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Matthew
This is very biased towards the European origin theory. She has 1 example of the disease prior to 1492, how many examples does he have of Native Americans having it prior to 1492? It's never directly stated because if it's 50, 50 examples vs 1 would clearly outweigh her evidence. Congrats on the aberration, but don't ignore the counter evidence.
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This is very biased towards the European origin theory. She has 1 example of the disease prior to 1492, how many examples does he have of Native Americans having it prior to 1492? It's never directly stated because if it's 50, 50 examples vs 1 would clearly outweigh her evidence. Congrats on the aberration, but don't ignore the counter evidence.
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Evelyn
I have recently inherited property in Scotland which once was an Augustinian priory. I remember as a child, when my parents first bought the property, there was bust of a monk's head at the bottom of the large garden. This may have been the site of a cemetery. I don't know what happened to the bust. They may have given it to the museum.
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I have recently inherited property in Scotland which once was an Augustinian priory. I remember as a child, when my parents first bought the property, there was bust of a monk's head at the bottom of the large garden. This may have been the site of a cemetery. I don't know what happened to the bust. They may have given it to the museum.
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Evelyn
You seem to forget that wine is used at every Mass and each monk may have been a priest who must celebrate Mass daily and in these days, communion was given in both species probably also to the congregation of the laity. That would explain the wine jugs.
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You seem to forget that wine is used at every Mass and each monk may have been a priest who must celebrate Mass daily and in these days, communion was given in both species probably also to the congregation of the laity. That would explain the wine jugs.
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Geo
I am amazed at the unwillingness of scientists to accept new ideas, even when confronted with irrefutable evidence. Granted, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, but when this extraordinary evidence is presented, they still resist.
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I am amazed at the unwillingness of scientists to accept new ideas, even when confronted with irrefutable evidence. Granted, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, but when this extraordinary evidence is presented, they still resist.
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Mona
Naive americans didn't have any diseases. That's why the diseases that were brought to the americas nearly wiped them out. No antibodies. The called this the, 'French Pox', because it was thought that it started there, not in the americas.
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Naive americans didn't have any diseases. That's why the diseases that were brought to the americas nearly wiped them out. No antibodies. The called this the, 'French Pox', because it was thought that it started there, not in the americas.
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DJ
I knew a man named Vernon Dale. When I started calling him VD, most people didn't get it. He didn't get it either, and still refers to himself as such to this very day. On quiet evenings the willows whisper it to the wind.
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I knew a man named Vernon Dale. When I started calling him VD, most people didn't get it. He didn't get it either, and still refers to himself as such to this very day. On quiet evenings the willows whisper it to the wind.
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Michele
More 'fake news' thinking, George's comment was very telling: You think facts are going to change my mind? Why does his opinion matter at all given all the evidence showing he's very likely wrong?
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More 'fake news' thinking, George's comment was very telling: You think facts are going to change my mind? Why does his opinion matter at all given all the evidence showing he's very likely wrong?
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millieo
I worked for an internal medicine practice. The secretary and I were dreading an appointment for our rudest patient. The doctor said his disposition was a consequence of long term Syphilis.
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I worked for an internal medicine practice. The secretary and I were dreading an appointment for our rudest patient. The doctor said his disposition was a consequence of long term Syphilis.
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Walymie
Fire the sound designer, awful work. Nobody asked for cheesy horror movie sound effects, we know and can perfectly imagine the horror of the disease without hearing ear-piercing awfulness.
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Fire the sound designer, awful work. Nobody asked for cheesy horror movie sound effects, we know and can perfectly imagine the horror of the disease without hearing ear-piercing awfulness.
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Maureen
If you pay any attention to the modern and recent discoveries in archeology you would know that people from England and Asia came to the Americas long before Christopher Columbus.
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If you pay any attention to the modern and recent discoveries in archeology you would know that people from England and Asia came to the Americas long before Christopher Columbus.
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Kerry
Not everything requires theme music, well unless someone wants to follow me around with a speaker, so my action and words sound more interesting and intense!
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Not everything requires theme music, well unless someone wants to follow me around with a speaker, so my action and words sound more interesting and intense!
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Ron
Up to watching this I was always under the impression that it was the white Europeans that took diseases to the new world that decimated the native Indian's.
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Up to watching this I was always under the impression that it was the white Europeans that took diseases to the new world that decimated the native Indian's.
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