Who Was The Real King MacBeth? The Real MacBeth Timeline
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Date: 2022-07-19
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Fibre
Tony can you also investigate why the Irish imply they are the ones that went to Scotland to attack, when according to the Romans they called what is today Ireland a country called Scotia (land of the Scots) and the people in what is today Ireland the Scotii (Scots) if this is true then the Romans called Ireland Scotland (Scotia) and the inhabitants Scotii (Scots) it was only much later that Ireland was called Hibernia and later Ireland and the land of the Picts (Scotland) was called Caledonia and after Kenneth MacAlpin in 843 was changed to Scotland when he United the Scotia/Scotii with the Picts that's how Scotland was formed
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Tony can you also investigate why the Irish imply they are the ones that went to Scotland to attack, when according to the Romans they called what is today Ireland a country called Scotia (land of the Scots) and the people in what is today Ireland the Scotii (Scots) if this is true then the Romans called Ireland Scotland (Scotia) and the inhabitants Scotii (Scots) it was only much later that Ireland was called Hibernia and later Ireland and the land of the Picts (Scotland) was called Caledonia and after Kenneth MacAlpin in 843 was changed to Scotland when he United the Scotia/Scotii with the Picts that's how Scotland was formed
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Brightfox's
This documentary was so interesting yet a bit sad. I didn't know that MacBeth was the last king of the true, indigenous Scotland. My dear father, of beloved memory, loved Scotland and its history even though he was a Slovak-American. He thought that he had been reincarnated from a Scottish man who died defending his family from the British redcoats in the 18th century. I once gave him a book of Scotland's history that had lots of photographs and maps because he was dyslexic. He learned a lot from documentaries, and he would have loved this one! Anastacia in Cleveland
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This documentary was so interesting yet a bit sad. I didn't know that MacBeth was the last king of the true, indigenous Scotland. My dear father, of beloved memory, loved Scotland and its history even though he was a Slovak-American. He thought that he had been reincarnated from a Scottish man who died defending his family from the British redcoats in the 18th century. I once gave him a book of Scotland's history that had lots of photographs and maps because he was dyslexic. He learned a lot from documentaries, and he would have loved this one! Anastacia in Cleveland
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Sharon
Maybe we can also admit that Richard 111 was also tarnished with by the same person also for political reasons. After all he was writing for the Lancastrians who won the Battle of Bosworth against Richard 111. He was regarded by the people he ruled over in the North as a good benefactor, when he was Edward 1Vs representative. Who can say if he truly believed his brother was fathered by someone other than his father. Im extremely sceptical of the portrait of Richard 111 that Shakespeare painted.
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Maybe we can also admit that Richard 111 was also tarnished with by the same person also for political reasons. After all he was writing for the Lancastrians who won the Battle of Bosworth against Richard 111. He was regarded by the people he ruled over in the North as a good benefactor, when he was Edward 1Vs representative. Who can say if he truly believed his brother was fathered by someone other than his father. Im extremely sceptical of the portrait of Richard 111 that Shakespeare painted.
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albert
Great documentary. Good to get tonthe roots of who Macbeth really was. Great literature does not mean historical accuracy. Look how another character, Richard III. by no means a saint was turned into a monster by Shakespeare. As I always reminded my students: plays, novels and opera could be fun but are not the way to learn history. However they do arouse curiosity, provoke discussion and asking of questions. which is a good thing.
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Great documentary. Good to get tonthe roots of who Macbeth really was. Great literature does not mean historical accuracy. Look how another character, Richard III. by no means a saint was turned into a monster by Shakespeare. As I always reminded my students: plays, novels and opera could be fun but are not the way to learn history. However they do arouse curiosity, provoke discussion and asking of questions. which is a good thing.
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Fibre
What's that norm ah yes 'Poetic Licence' as some said on this chat Shakespeare was writing at the time of the Scottish Kings (Stuart's) who took over England and wanted to show a direct line of succession that's why Shakespeare painted MacBeth out of the equation to bolster the King James 6th of Scotland when he went to London as king of the United Kingdom politics was alive and well about like Cambridge Analytics did for Brexit
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What's that norm ah yes 'Poetic Licence' as some said on this chat Shakespeare was writing at the time of the Scottish Kings (Stuart's) who took over England and wanted to show a direct line of succession that's why Shakespeare painted MacBeth out of the equation to bolster the King James 6th of Scotland when he went to London as king of the United Kingdom politics was alive and well about like Cambridge Analytics did for Brexit
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Celto
32: she just 'has' to be standing infront of the (modern rebuilt) crannog. Malcom and co all lived in stone castles, modern wooded houses and CITIES. Crannogs were from 1000s of years earlier and they would have never heard of one. Also they did NOT wear kilts. Im sick of Scotland being portrayed as some forest warriors from yesteryear, this is why we are still backwards. These people were wealthy nobles, not 'tribesmen'
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32: she just 'has' to be standing infront of the (modern rebuilt) crannog. Malcom and co all lived in stone castles, modern wooded houses and CITIES. Crannogs were from 1000s of years earlier and they would have never heard of one. Also they did NOT wear kilts. Im sick of Scotland being portrayed as some forest warriors from yesteryear, this is why we are still backwards. These people were wealthy nobles, not 'tribesmen'
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Patrick
Another (though very late) addition. James the 6th and 1st was the 6th great grandson of Duncan 1 and 5th great grandson of Malcolm 3 (through David 1. Portraying the witches as being problematic in the reign of his ancestors played right into James' own superstitions about witches meddling with his reign. And, of course, it would not do to have the man who killed his ancestor portrayed as a 'good person'.
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Another (though very late) addition. James the 6th and 1st was the 6th great grandson of Duncan 1 and 5th great grandson of Malcolm 3 (through David 1. Portraying the witches as being problematic in the reign of his ancestors played right into James' own superstitions about witches meddling with his reign. And, of course, it would not do to have the man who killed his ancestor portrayed as a 'good person'.
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Lynn
Adding to info about names of witchy cauldron ingredients: Some gross-sounding words like WART actually refer to medicinal or folk -use plants. So eye of newt isn't a grotesque animal eyeball obtained for demonic work, but likely just a plant.
Shakespeare poking fun at the diet of Scots filled in the last blank for me. Makes sense now why he chose the nasty sounding folk names for herbs.
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Adding to info about names of witchy cauldron ingredients: Some gross-sounding words like WART actually refer to medicinal or folk -use plants. So eye of newt isn't a grotesque animal eyeball obtained for demonic work, but likely just a plant.
Shakespeare poking fun at the diet of Scots filled in the last blank for me. Makes sense now why he chose the nasty sounding folk names for herbs.
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Euro
Absolutely profound how Shakespeare seems to have been the Social and Mainstream Media of the day disseminating propaganda on behalf of the rulers. Also love how Tony brings out how imperialism has destroyed an indigenous culture. whilst truth is usually overlooked, I personally demand it. More people should.
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Absolutely profound how Shakespeare seems to have been the Social and Mainstream Media of the day disseminating propaganda on behalf of the rulers. Also love how Tony brings out how imperialism has destroyed an indigenous culture. whilst truth is usually overlooked, I personally demand it. More people should.
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Jaque
So, King James was the lunatic (and could be the reason why Shakespeare put witches in the play, believing witchcraft would be his downfall, and MacBeth who was an actual good king for his people is the one with his reputation being destroyed by a play? Well, I think that explains why the play is cursed \o/
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So, King James was the lunatic (and could be the reason why Shakespeare put witches in the play, believing witchcraft would be his downfall, and MacBeth who was an actual good king for his people is the one with his reputation being destroyed by a play? Well, I think that explains why the play is cursed \o/
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Kelly
The old Scottish way of succession seems very intelligent. I mean, could you imagine Prince Harry being the older sibling instead of Prince William! That would be remedied by the old Scottish system, being able to choose the better man from a small group of worthy menit wouldnt be Harry, thats for sure!
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The old Scottish way of succession seems very intelligent. I mean, could you imagine Prince Harry being the older sibling instead of Prince William! That would be remedied by the old Scottish system, being able to choose the better man from a small group of worthy menit wouldnt be Harry, thats for sure!
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msinvincible2000
Blackadder: Actors are very superstitious. On no account mention the word Macbeth this evening.
Baldrick: Why not?
Blackadder: it brings them bad luck and it makes them very unhappy.
Baldrick: Ah, so you won't be mentionning it either.
Blackadder: No. Well, not very often.
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Blackadder: Actors are very superstitious. On no account mention the word Macbeth this evening.
Baldrick: Why not?
Blackadder: it brings them bad luck and it makes them very unhappy.
Baldrick: Ah, so you won't be mentionning it either.
Blackadder: No. Well, not very often.
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lulachthesimple
A wee bit disappointing that no mention is made of Gruoch's son, King Lulach who survived Macbeth.
Also worth pointing out the importance of the mythical figure Banquo Thou shall get kings. because James VI & I claimed/reinforced his right to the throne by citing Banquo as an ancestor.
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A wee bit disappointing that no mention is made of Gruoch's son, King Lulach who survived Macbeth.
Also worth pointing out the importance of the mythical figure Banquo Thou shall get kings. because James VI & I claimed/reinforced his right to the throne by citing Banquo as an ancestor.
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William
Its all BS as King Duncan and MacBeth fought after the latter heard that Duncan bent the knee to the English King, and during a battle lower in the Highlands. Duncan died in battle, but England and Malcolm Canmore let it be the tale. Its not the real stone of destiny I beg your pardon.
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Its all BS as King Duncan and MacBeth fought after the latter heard that Duncan bent the knee to the English King, and during a battle lower in the Highlands. Duncan died in battle, but England and Malcolm Canmore let it be the tale. Its not the real stone of destiny I beg your pardon.
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Kari
I prefer to think of the cauldron as a tool that magic folk used in their craft. Many graves and water deposited cauldrons have been found across Northern Europe dating back to the Bronze Age. Magic is a much better explanation than thumbing ones nose at the Scotts!
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I prefer to think of the cauldron as a tool that magic folk used in their craft. Many graves and water deposited cauldrons have been found across Northern Europe dating back to the Bronze Age. Magic is a much better explanation than thumbing ones nose at the Scotts!
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johnny
I took an acting class once and we had to perform a monologue and I chose Shakespeare's Macbeth because the part I chose had a knock knock joke and I think it was when it was invented. Which is funny considering the subject matter
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I took an acting class once and we had to perform a monologue and I chose Shakespeare's Macbeth because the part I chose had a knock knock joke and I think it was when it was invented. Which is funny considering the subject matter
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J. C.
The 3 witches are most likely a reference to the fates. The 3 sisters representing past, present & future. Hence the 3 prophecies they give 1 being what he was, next what he is (albeit unbeknownst to him) & what he will be.
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The 3 witches are most likely a reference to the fates. The 3 sisters representing past, present & future. Hence the 3 prophecies they give 1 being what he was, next what he is (albeit unbeknownst to him) & what he will be.
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nathan
Another example of how actors Hollywood and writers like to change History to their own liking. True History is Awesome enough it doesnt need to be changed, Thank you for making thing Right.
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Another example of how actors Hollywood and writers like to change History to their own liking. True History is Awesome enough it doesnt need to be changed, Thank you for making thing Right.
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Megan
This is the first time I've heard Macbeth blamed for Lady Macbeth's madness. I was always taught that she went mad because of the guilt she felt for setting in motion all the murders.
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This is the first time I've heard Macbeth blamed for Lady Macbeth's madness. I was always taught that she went mad because of the guilt she felt for setting in motion all the murders.
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Megan
Since the British Queen Elizabeth I (a rather anti-Scottish monarch) was Shakespeare's patron, it makes sense that he would cast a Scottish king in the role of the crazy murderer.
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Since the British Queen Elizabeth I (a rather anti-Scottish monarch) was Shakespeare's patron, it makes sense that he would cast a Scottish king in the role of the crazy murderer.
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