The Boom of Feminism During The Battle of Britain The Many Against The Few Timeline
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Date: 2022-07-19
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John
My Mom joined the ATA in 1941 at the age of twenty - she ferried literally hundreds of A/C of all types from midlands factories to active units darn saaf to replace losses from active squadrons.
She was sidelined by the imminent birth of my Brother Roger in 1944, by which time she had logged over 1800 hours of active flight across the airways of the UK - and a few that didn't exist (as such) in those days.
So, having grown up in the postwar period as a council house kid, I eventually joined the Royal Navy as a Stoker, and by an accident of chance made a friendship with Louie Eiemh Hoch, president of the Singapore Aero Club.
Under his tutelage I gained my PPL at the age of seventeen. and spent many happy hours in the air in the far East, flitting around various places that I wouldn't have had a chance to visit without wings.
So, life goes on and we adjust to our surroundings; leaving the RN after the tragic experience of the fire on the USS Forrestal I set about making a home with my wife Hilary, who I'd met and married during my RN partition, I reverted to what I do best. repairing and rebuilding engines.
Ever concious of money shortages once my brood (two of each) got bigger, I expanded my mate base, and got a start with Brymon Airways, based at EGGB, just down rhe road from here.
I was with Brymon for another nine years - delivering mail and small goods all over the UK, week in, week out - and although challenging at times, my tasks were (almost) always do-able by sticking to common sense and forward thinking, so although I did get a few naughty situations in the outer reaches of the British islands, I managed to avoid any major issues and made a whole load of friendships amongst all the various contacts I'd made over the years.
Looking back, now at the ge of 72, I feel extraordinarily fortunate that although life had thrown all sorts of problems at me in more than 50% of my life, I came out of it more than a little surprised to find that I STILL had choices open to me - I still had some sort of control over what I did and when I did it.
Long may it continue that way.
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My Mom joined the ATA in 1941 at the age of twenty - she ferried literally hundreds of A/C of all types from midlands factories to active units darn saaf to replace losses from active squadrons.
She was sidelined by the imminent birth of my Brother Roger in 1944, by which time she had logged over 1800 hours of active flight across the airways of the UK - and a few that didn't exist (as such) in those days.
So, having grown up in the postwar period as a council house kid, I eventually joined the Royal Navy as a Stoker, and by an accident of chance made a friendship with Louie Eiemh Hoch, president of the Singapore Aero Club.
Under his tutelage I gained my PPL at the age of seventeen. and spent many happy hours in the air in the far East, flitting around various places that I wouldn't have had a chance to visit without wings.
So, life goes on and we adjust to our surroundings; leaving the RN after the tragic experience of the fire on the USS Forrestal I set about making a home with my wife Hilary, who I'd met and married during my RN partition, I reverted to what I do best. repairing and rebuilding engines.
Ever concious of money shortages once my brood (two of each) got bigger, I expanded my mate base, and got a start with Brymon Airways, based at EGGB, just down rhe road from here.
I was with Brymon for another nine years - delivering mail and small goods all over the UK, week in, week out - and although challenging at times, my tasks were (almost) always do-able by sticking to common sense and forward thinking, so although I did get a few naughty situations in the outer reaches of the British islands, I managed to avoid any major issues and made a whole load of friendships amongst all the various contacts I'd made over the years.
Looking back, now at the ge of 72, I feel extraordinarily fortunate that although life had thrown all sorts of problems at me in more than 50% of my life, I came out of it more than a little surprised to find that I STILL had choices open to me - I still had some sort of control over what I did and when I did it.
Long may it continue that way.
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inkyguy
Calling the Second World War the beginning of womens liberation isnt only historically inaccurate but does a great disservice to the women of early generations who literally put their bodies and lives on the line to attain suffrage and rights for women. I under the statement was being made out of thoughtless ignorance, but while the role of women during Second World War certainly contributed to the change in culture and the advancement of womens civil rights, just as the First World War and the Second World War contributed toward greater demand for civil rights by African Americans in the U. S, it was far from the beginning of the movement or the accomplishments won for womens rights.
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Calling the Second World War the beginning of womens liberation isnt only historically inaccurate but does a great disservice to the women of early generations who literally put their bodies and lives on the line to attain suffrage and rights for women. I under the statement was being made out of thoughtless ignorance, but while the role of women during Second World War certainly contributed to the change in culture and the advancement of womens civil rights, just as the First World War and the Second World War contributed toward greater demand for civil rights by African Americans in the U. S, it was far from the beginning of the movement or the accomplishments won for womens rights.
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Carey
Had a great uncle in London who survived, told us told stories of the blitz. One of his best friends flat ( apartment) was bombed. He was first to go in to find his friend after the bombing. He moved some debris away and entered the flat. There on the kitchen table was his friend staring right at him at eye level. He called out to his friend but he was stone cold dead. A shell fragment or the blast had tore him in two and the top half from mid stomach up was sitting there upright on the table with his eyes wide open. My Uncle had nightmares for the rest of his life about that one incident!
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Had a great uncle in London who survived, told us told stories of the blitz. One of his best friends flat ( apartment) was bombed. He was first to go in to find his friend after the bombing. He moved some debris away and entered the flat. There on the kitchen table was his friend staring right at him at eye level. He called out to his friend but he was stone cold dead. A shell fragment or the blast had tore him in two and the top half from mid stomach up was sitting there upright on the table with his eyes wide open. My Uncle had nightmares for the rest of his life about that one incident!
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Walter
My mother, who was 14 years old in 1940, on leaving school worked in a sweet factory in Liverpool, and helped out with firewatchers in the city centre during the blitz in 1941. By 1943 she was working at a factory in Marybone, Liverpool city centre called Roe Brothers ltd. There she assembled the 3 inch 60lb rockets that were used by the RAF ground attack aircraft. All gave some, some gave all.
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My mother, who was 14 years old in 1940, on leaving school worked in a sweet factory in Liverpool, and helped out with firewatchers in the city centre during the blitz in 1941. By 1943 she was working at a factory in Marybone, Liverpool city centre called Roe Brothers ltd. There she assembled the 3 inch 60lb rockets that were used by the RAF ground attack aircraft. All gave some, some gave all.
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Greg
In my opinion they are just as capable with most things. When pretty much every man is out fighting/possibly being wounded. f ing right we would them to do what we cant anymore by ourselves! Geez my wife supported and helped me more than anyone I know besides my father and mother. Ha ha sorry rambling just the thought that popped into the skull. basically just have mutual respect is what I mean.
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In my opinion they are just as capable with most things. When pretty much every man is out fighting/possibly being wounded. f ing right we would them to do what we cant anymore by ourselves! Geez my wife supported and helped me more than anyone I know besides my father and mother. Ha ha sorry rambling just the thought that popped into the skull. basically just have mutual respect is what I mean.
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Maurice
As a former volunteer fireman I remember the frustration of feeling useless before joining the fire brigade. I can only try to imagine what it's like in the time of war.
For these women that frustration would be replaced with more pride than I can imagine and what they did was vital for their country's survival. I have deep respect for these women.
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As a former volunteer fireman I remember the frustration of feeling useless before joining the fire brigade. I can only try to imagine what it's like in the time of war.
For these women that frustration would be replaced with more pride than I can imagine and what they did was vital for their country's survival. I have deep respect for these women.
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DavidFMayerPhD
As bad as it was for Britain, it was far WORSE for Germany & Japan. These countries suffered many time as many civilian casualties from the bombing. Yet they continued to trust & obey their leaders. Of course, any complaints in Germany & Japan were met by immediate death. This is what happens when absolute power is seized by lunatics.
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As bad as it was for Britain, it was far WORSE for Germany & Japan. These countries suffered many time as many civilian casualties from the bombing. Yet they continued to trust & obey their leaders. Of course, any complaints in Germany & Japan were met by immediate death. This is what happens when absolute power is seized by lunatics.
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ultrajd
As usualthe dont mention the non-British pilots. Pilots from Poland, New Zealand, Canada, Czechoslovakia, Belgium, Australia, South Africa, France, Ireland, United States of America, Southern Rhodesia, Jamaica, Barbados, Newfoundland and Northern Rhodesia fought alongside British Pilots to defend Britain against the Luftwaffe.
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As usualthe dont mention the non-British pilots. Pilots from Poland, New Zealand, Canada, Czechoslovakia, Belgium, Australia, South Africa, France, Ireland, United States of America, Southern Rhodesia, Jamaica, Barbados, Newfoundland and Northern Rhodesia fought alongside British Pilots to defend Britain against the Luftwaffe.
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Pawel
We could do everything what men could do - well, clearly not, this is why women were plotters so that men could fight. The fact that women were used as plotters in order to free up men into fighting roles certainly doesn't prove that. Certainly, however they (women) did they part and my hat goes down to them
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We could do everything what men could do - well, clearly not, this is why women were plotters so that men could fight. The fact that women were used as plotters in order to free up men into fighting roles certainly doesn't prove that. Certainly, however they (women) did they part and my hat goes down to them
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Prepperjon
My grandparents lived through both world wars in England. I grew up listening to their stories and thinking man were they tough! Lol
Not like todays generation who cant even go cramping without their cell phones. They even bring lights that are controlled by an app on their phone lol
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My grandparents lived through both world wars in England. I grew up listening to their stories and thinking man were they tough! Lol
Not like todays generation who cant even go cramping without their cell phones. They even bring lights that are controlled by an app on their phone lol
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carol
Maybe she did. I know she was a mechanic. However I am talking the young lads sitting in those cockpits day after watching their mates die a day at a time and still have to go up. I am not into comparing women with those lads because it simply does not compare!
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Maybe she did. I know she was a mechanic. However I am talking the young lads sitting in those cockpits day after watching their mates die a day at a time and still have to go up. I am not into comparing women with those lads because it simply does not compare!
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jack
This should be how feminism is taught. These woman are incredible. However I do understand the mens resentment never considered the fact that the men who didnt want to see action but wanted to do their part are being forced into combat to make room.
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This should be how feminism is taught. These woman are incredible. However I do understand the mens resentment never considered the fact that the men who didnt want to see action but wanted to do their part are being forced into combat to make room.
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David
Great film, wonderful documentary.
Spoiled only by the praise of women taking men's relatively safe jobs to send more men to be killed, so that they, the women could remain safe and declare just how herioc and equal they were.
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Great film, wonderful documentary.
Spoiled only by the praise of women taking men's relatively safe jobs to send more men to be killed, so that they, the women could remain safe and declare just how herioc and equal they were.
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Les
Incredible video. My mother was an air raid warden. She worked in London during the day and an arw af night. She told me she was machine gunned on Romford Station on her way to work on many occasions. Incredible people
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Incredible video. My mother was an air raid warden. She worked in London during the day and an arw af night. She told me she was machine gunned on Romford Station on her way to work on many occasions. Incredible people
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Moreno
Yes! Women can roll up their sleeves and work. Funny that men never thought of that back then. Especially since women have been at work since the beginning of civilization. Lovely episode. Thanks, Timeline.
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Yes! Women can roll up their sleeves and work. Funny that men never thought of that back then. Especially since women have been at work since the beginning of civilization. Lovely episode. Thanks, Timeline.
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Jim
Yes they were doing men's jobs, that's fine and was absolutely necessary. The men were dying. I'm sure men would have preferred to plot than DIE. Also the bevan boys middle class cowards, went down the pit
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Yes they were doing men's jobs, that's fine and was absolutely necessary. The men were dying. I'm sure men would have preferred to plot than DIE. Also the bevan boys middle class cowards, went down the pit
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Old
Its all very well, but before going down into the shelter when I was about six, I had to hold hands with a GIRL!
I did change my mind later) but at the time it made me realise war demands sacrifice.
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Its all very well, but before going down into the shelter when I was about six, I had to hold hands with a GIRL!
I did change my mind later) but at the time it made me realise war demands sacrifice.
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lock
Hehe. One young Canadian flying for Navy arrived in England just as Second war ending. Managed to return to Canada with an English Rose /my aunt. as she had been WAAF.
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Hehe. One young Canadian flying for Navy arrived in England just as Second war ending. Managed to return to Canada with an English Rose /my aunt. as she had been WAAF.
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Sandy
The women of Britain stepped away from their kitchens to assist in saving the country. Unfortunately, all these advances were summarily taken away when the war ended.
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The women of Britain stepped away from their kitchens to assist in saving the country. Unfortunately, all these advances were summarily taken away when the war ended.
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Clifford
Thank you for recording for posterity the exploits of these wonderful women, most of whom will now sadly have passed away. There place in history is now assured.
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Thank you for recording for posterity the exploits of these wonderful women, most of whom will now sadly have passed away. There place in history is now assured.
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