What if England won the Hundred Years War?
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Regarding the future of England/the English royal family, it ask depends on where you see England winning the 100 years war. If the twist is that HenryV doesnt die when he does then I think the Lancastrian usurpers maintain their stranglehold over the throne and we can see the Tudors, and thus the Stuarts, never sitting on the throne as there is no reason for Richard of York to start his rebellion. If there are no Stuarts then that means Scotland remains separate unless the Lancastrian Plantagenets decide to conquer it (not likely after they have France, unless the Scots make a nuisance of themselves. Post of the effect of the War of the Roses is that it killed off a lot of the aristocracy, which was pretty large after Edward III. If Henry V is the one to win France through living and outlining the French king, thus inheriting the French throne, i could see France being carved up into many duchies for his various royal relatives as a way of keeping them happy. Combine that with the fact that the monarchy was clearly now a English I could see most royal land owners being moved over to France and the throne remaining in england, keeping the king safe from potential uprisings and invasions and meaning that the king has no challenge to his authority in England.
Another thing about the Plantagenets remaining on the throne is the development of the law under them. Under the Tudors (well, mainly Henry VIII) and then under James I & VI and Charles I they ruled as absolute monarchs, but the Plantagenets were bound by the history of Magna Carta and so were less likely to rile Parliament to the point that the civil war happens. As a result, how governance of England develops is interesting, as we could see a slower journey towards a constitutional monarchy.
Date: 2022-07-15
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Raj
Of all the amazing content, I believe this, takes the lofty place as crown jewel.
It's better than England lost to France. The war itself was damaging enough, an English victory would have meant the absorption of England into France.
In fact, it would have been better if the war had ended earlier with a French victory. So much of the turmoil of the British Isles stems from English Kings obsessing over France at the expense of building good relations with Scotland and Ireland. It's hard to imagine Scotland and Ireland ever being independent of England. But the quality of life would have been much better had relations been normalized in the ME, rather than after, when England had become Protestant.
Also, the centralization of France cost the world Brittany, Burgundy and Savoy; regions with their own rich culture and identity. They weren't persecuted and trampled like the Irish and Scots, but they ultimately all lost their unique identity.
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Of all the amazing content, I believe this, takes the lofty place as crown jewel.
It's better than England lost to France. The war itself was damaging enough, an English victory would have meant the absorption of England into France.
In fact, it would have been better if the war had ended earlier with a French victory. So much of the turmoil of the British Isles stems from English Kings obsessing over France at the expense of building good relations with Scotland and Ireland. It's hard to imagine Scotland and Ireland ever being independent of England. But the quality of life would have been much better had relations been normalized in the ME, rather than after, when England had become Protestant.
Also, the centralization of France cost the world Brittany, Burgundy and Savoy; regions with their own rich culture and identity. They weren't persecuted and trampled like the Irish and Scots, but they ultimately all lost their unique identity.
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JHAYKHAY25
The ruling class of this time still to some degree saw themselves as of the continent and England as a plantation. In fact some upper middle class still do. If they moved the royal court to France there's a good chance this notion would get the better of them, England would become a tax farm and the people disrespected. At this point the temptation for the remaining English and Welsh noble families to try to take control would be considerable. Maybe the English court in France was wise enough to buy off the remaining nobles and ambitious commoners with a war in say Italy, maybe not. If not I could see the remaining nobles taking England.
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The ruling class of this time still to some degree saw themselves as of the continent and England as a plantation. In fact some upper middle class still do. If they moved the royal court to France there's a good chance this notion would get the better of them, England would become a tax farm and the people disrespected. At this point the temptation for the remaining English and Welsh noble families to try to take control would be considerable. Maybe the English court in France was wise enough to buy off the remaining nobles and ambitious commoners with a war in say Italy, maybe not. If not I could see the remaining nobles taking England.
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Lewis
At 4: 20 Whatifalthist Says that Joan was a Puppet of a French Duke, the pronouncation of which meant I couldn't figure out how it was spelled, but according to the subtitles
is called the Duke Dad and Saul [Duke of Dalandsaul. ]
If anyone know the Proper Spelling and Pronouncation of this Duke's title and what the Name of it's holder was, could someone please tell me because I didn't understand what
Whatifalthist sayed, [Probably beecause he's Pennsalvanian and I'm Australian, ] and am interested in this Duke.
Please respond if anyone knows, I'd greatly appreciate it thank you. :)
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At 4: 20 Whatifalthist Says that Joan was a Puppet of a French Duke, the pronouncation of which meant I couldn't figure out how it was spelled, but according to the subtitles
is called the Duke Dad and Saul [Duke of Dalandsaul. ]
If anyone know the Proper Spelling and Pronouncation of this Duke's title and what the Name of it's holder was, could someone please tell me because I didn't understand what
Whatifalthist sayed, [Probably beecause he's Pennsalvanian and I'm Australian, ] and am interested in this Duke.
Please respond if anyone knows, I'd greatly appreciate it thank you. :)
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Noah
Well England's culture and language would become French and half of England's dna would become half French from mixing with them and their French immigrants.
And the ruling dynasty would regard itself as French.
Lol ironically a English nationalist's wet dream would turn out being a nightmare as we would of Gallicized.
English nationalism and English kings (Plantagenets) regarding themselves as English instead of French only happened after the war.
Had England won we'd view this as a French Civil war.
And England would just be a bigger version of Corsica.
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Well England's culture and language would become French and half of England's dna would become half French from mixing with them and their French immigrants.
And the ruling dynasty would regard itself as French.
Lol ironically a English nationalist's wet dream would turn out being a nightmare as we would of Gallicized.
English nationalism and English kings (Plantagenets) regarding themselves as English instead of French only happened after the war.
Had England won we'd view this as a French Civil war.
And England would just be a bigger version of Corsica.
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David
The English court relocates to France. Now we have a French-speaking monarch and court ruling England from France. Who won the war again?
Some linguists think English came very close to being extinguished by French. I suspect this would have happened.
If it didn't, and perhaps even if it did, eventually England rebels.
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The English court relocates to France. Now we have a French-speaking monarch and court ruling England from France. Who won the war again?
Some linguists think English came very close to being extinguished by French. I suspect this would have happened.
If it didn't, and perhaps even if it did, eventually England rebels.
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Qalixte
England could not win the war because she was not at war. It was a family war between Capetians for a throne, not a war between peoples. War between the male branch, that of Philippe VI and the female branches, those of Joan of Navarre and Isabelle of England. Let's add the younger branch of Burgundy.
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England could not win the war because she was not at war. It was a family war between Capetians for a throne, not a war between peoples. War between the male branch, that of Philippe VI and the female branches, those of Joan of Navarre and Isabelle of England. Let's add the younger branch of Burgundy.
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Zagagel
I mean the Culture would Result in the Anglo-French and the Creation of
The Plantagenet Empire and they would have a Protestant Anglo-French King resulting in America and Canada Becoming Firm Anglo-French Provinces so we would be hearing of Titles like Duke of Alberta, Count of new York
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I mean the Culture would Result in the Anglo-French and the Creation of
The Plantagenet Empire and they would have a Protestant Anglo-French King resulting in America and Canada Becoming Firm Anglo-French Provinces so we would be hearing of Titles like Duke of Alberta, Count of new York
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jasoniscool2006
I think your theory underplayed the religion difference of France vs England. I see more of a conflict with people in France, and you overplayed Barclay which isnt a big deal but using an overplay to make a point is counterproductive. All that said keep making videos. I like them.
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I think your theory underplayed the religion difference of France vs England. I see more of a conflict with people in France, and you overplayed Barclay which isnt a big deal but using an overplay to make a point is counterproductive. All that said keep making videos. I like them.
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Grahame
Sorry, to go grammar/logic nerd on you, but begs the question is a logical fallacy meaning assuming the conclusion. You mean raises the question.
But it's a common mistake, frequently made. I'm fighting a losing battle trying to stop it. But I will not give up.
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Sorry, to go grammar/logic nerd on you, but begs the question is a logical fallacy meaning assuming the conclusion. You mean raises the question.
But it's a common mistake, frequently made. I'm fighting a losing battle trying to stop it. But I will not give up.
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