What if Argentina was a British Colony?
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1) While a large number of settlers would have indeed arrived from the British Isles, there would still have been a large amount of Spaniards and Italians coming forth, at least almost as large as in our world. I'm saying this, because the Hispanic element already in Argentina would have been conducive to people in Spain and Italy who would have little to no problem integrating into that element once in Argentina. Besides which, Argentina would have been so darn attractive to them as to other immigrants in the first place, and in fact, Spaniards preferred going to Spanish-speaking destinations, even if it happened to be under British rule. (If you're wondering why no further Dutch and French immigration to South Africa and Canada respectively, it's more because Holland and France had much lower emigration rates than either Spain or Italy) What this does to British Argentina is that it has a slight Spanish-speaking majority, not a decisive English-speaking one; the Anglophones are merely a plurality, but a very large one (in this sense, and basically in this sense only, being more like South Africa than Canada.
2) A British takeover would have taken a lot longer than what seems to be depicted in the video. The way I've thought about it for the past big while now is that Buenos Aires (as well as Cordoba and points north and west) becomes independent under British suzerainty until overtaken by the British ca. the 1840s and afterwards, while Uruguay (which agrees on a common border with Brazil/the Portuguese, a British ally) and the other areas surrounding Buenos Aires are under British control early on. Paraguay, for its part, keeps its independence, and the Paraguayan War of the 1860s is butterflied away.
Date: 2022-07-15
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PinginoRodrguez
Something that everybody don't metion is the entire south american continent could have been completly different, in our timeline argentina was a main player in the wars for indepence in south america. The argentinian general Jose de San Martin developed a plan to liberate the other territories from spanish rule, in 1817 he entered Chile and liberated the place later with the help of Bernardo O'Higgings and the chilean navy went on a campaing to liberate Peru all the way up to Ecuador and there San Martin becomes the protector of Peru but then gives the tittle to Simon Bolivar also Uruguay as it is didn't exist yet the country got his independece after the cisplatine war between Argentina and Brazil (1825-1828)
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Something that everybody don't metion is the entire south american continent could have been completly different, in our timeline argentina was a main player in the wars for indepence in south america. The argentinian general Jose de San Martin developed a plan to liberate the other territories from spanish rule, in 1817 he entered Chile and liberated the place later with the help of Bernardo O'Higgings and the chilean navy went on a campaing to liberate Peru all the way up to Ecuador and there San Martin becomes the protector of Peru but then gives the tittle to Simon Bolivar also Uruguay as it is didn't exist yet the country got his independece after the cisplatine war between Argentina and Brazil (1825-1828)
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K. T.
Unlike Europeans and North Americans, Spanish South American nations refused to take advantage of 300 years worth of free labour. Emperor King Charles V outlawed the disgusting and immoral practice of chattel slavery 350 years before the USA and Protestant Europe (thus forfeiting a USD$700 trillion head start for all of Spanish America. This Spanish anti-slavery tradition was so important at the time, that SPANISH FLORIDA became a safe haven for tens of thousands of American Slaves running from American captivity and brutality. Unfortunately the Florida territories were handed over to the US Gov't in 1820 and the US gov't immediately enacted pro-chattel slavery laws across the entire peninsula.
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Unlike Europeans and North Americans, Spanish South American nations refused to take advantage of 300 years worth of free labour. Emperor King Charles V outlawed the disgusting and immoral practice of chattel slavery 350 years before the USA and Protestant Europe (thus forfeiting a USD$700 trillion head start for all of Spanish America. This Spanish anti-slavery tradition was so important at the time, that SPANISH FLORIDA became a safe haven for tens of thousands of American Slaves running from American captivity and brutality. Unfortunately the Florida territories were handed over to the US Gov't in 1820 and the US gov't immediately enacted pro-chattel slavery laws across the entire peninsula.
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likeitout
The British werent fighting Argentina but was involved in a global war against Spain and France. The flag who the Argentinians fought for and carried into battle, was the flag of Spain. So I would call them Spanish colonists.
The attack on the viceroyalty of the silver river, was a minor side event in this global war. There are many ways in which this event can be viewed. It could be compared to the British eighth army invading French colonial Algeria, loyal to the Vichy regime, in the Second World War. Or a fledgling nation declaring their own autonomy. The irony is that the United provinces executed the Spanish loyalist who led the victory against Spains enemy in the British.
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The British werent fighting Argentina but was involved in a global war against Spain and France. The flag who the Argentinians fought for and carried into battle, was the flag of Spain. So I would call them Spanish colonists.
The attack on the viceroyalty of the silver river, was a minor side event in this global war. There are many ways in which this event can be viewed. It could be compared to the British eighth army invading French colonial Algeria, loyal to the Vichy regime, in the Second World War. Or a fledgling nation declaring their own autonomy. The irony is that the United provinces executed the Spanish loyalist who led the victory against Spains enemy in the British.
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Unnamed
What i feel you forgot to mention, is that Argentina would basically become the USA 2. 0 for the vast majority of South Americans. Meaning Argentina could face some serious demographic issues in the late 20th and early 21st century, due to massive migration from Brazil and the poorer South American countries. And since Argentina wouldn't be as populated as the USA. The migrants would slowly but surely become the majority. Causing some serious social issues.
Also this would limit the migration to the US to Mexico, the Caribbean and Central America.
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What i feel you forgot to mention, is that Argentina would basically become the USA 2. 0 for the vast majority of South Americans. Meaning Argentina could face some serious demographic issues in the late 20th and early 21st century, due to massive migration from Brazil and the poorer South American countries. And since Argentina wouldn't be as populated as the USA. The migrants would slowly but surely become the majority. Causing some serious social issues.
Also this would limit the migration to the US to Mexico, the Caribbean and Central America.
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Kawayoporu
Do a what if Brazil was a British colony, because of reading about Little England in Brazil and wondered how it didn't become an English/Portuguese colony like Canada become an English/French colony, but I did wish maybe it was Belize if it wasn't happened in central America, I don't know if the British will call the country Brazil then instead of the Portugal people right?
Hey, British, Belize and Brazil all start with the letter B, British and Belize are English, too bad not Brazil!
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Do a what if Brazil was a British colony, because of reading about Little England in Brazil and wondered how it didn't become an English/Portuguese colony like Canada become an English/French colony, but I did wish maybe it was Belize if it wasn't happened in central America, I don't know if the British will call the country Brazil then instead of the Portugal people right?
Hey, British, Belize and Brazil all start with the letter B, British and Belize are English, too bad not Brazil!
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Thomas
A group of Catholic German Townspeople asked Charles V for permission to settle in what is now Argentina. Charles liked the idea and was in fact enthusiastic about it. The Townspeople had the resources to get to the La Plata themselves and a good mix of skills for settlement. The idea was vetoed by the Nobles of Castile. If the Castilian Nobles didn't find out about German project until the Townspeople were settled in, then maybe instead of Argentina we'd have Silberland!
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A group of Catholic German Townspeople asked Charles V for permission to settle in what is now Argentina. Charles liked the idea and was in fact enthusiastic about it. The Townspeople had the resources to get to the La Plata themselves and a good mix of skills for settlement. The idea was vetoed by the Nobles of Castile. If the Castilian Nobles didn't find out about German project until the Townspeople were settled in, then maybe instead of Argentina we'd have Silberland!
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Esteban
One thing for sure, the borders of the British Argentina will be more similar to those of the Virreinato del Rio de la Plata.
Meaning that it will surely include today's Bolivia, Paraguay, Uruguay and all or at least the major part of Chile as I do not believe England will allow any of these countries to secede.
Also Portugal/Brazil being an Englands ally will have not taken what today is Rio Grande do Sul
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One thing for sure, the borders of the British Argentina will be more similar to those of the Virreinato del Rio de la Plata.
Meaning that it will surely include today's Bolivia, Paraguay, Uruguay and all or at least the major part of Chile as I do not believe England will allow any of these countries to secede.
Also Portugal/Brazil being an Englands ally will have not taken what today is Rio Grande do Sul
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Manuel
The only thing i'd miss is our culture. I love the Spanish-Italian influence on us (my ancestry is aligned towards Italians, Spanish and Irish. We even have the same hand gestures. We'd also be basically not Latin Americans, which is another bummer as I love being Latin American.
Everything else sounds awesome, if we don't end up like South Africa or India.
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The only thing i'd miss is our culture. I love the Spanish-Italian influence on us (my ancestry is aligned towards Italians, Spanish and Irish. We even have the same hand gestures. We'd also be basically not Latin Americans, which is another bummer as I love being Latin American.
Everything else sounds awesome, if we don't end up like South Africa or India.
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education
British Argentina: father
Uk: yes my son?
British Argentina: if you dont mind me asking wouldnt it be more logistically sound if I governed the Falklands?
Uk: sorry my boy I think well keep things the way they are
British Argentina: quite right, have a good day and give my siblings my best
Uk: quite right
USA: my family is so weird
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British Argentina: father
Uk: yes my son?
British Argentina: if you dont mind me asking wouldnt it be more logistically sound if I governed the Falklands?
Uk: sorry my boy I think well keep things the way they are
British Argentina: quite right, have a good day and give my siblings my best
Uk: quite right
USA: my family is so weird
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