Biggest Unanswered Questions In Blade Runner 2049
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I stated before in another comment that the pink Joi ad scene could be seen as a mirror between this scene and the scene where Deckard refuses the Rachel copy. Deckard and K are both presented a copy of the ones the held great feelings for, but as we hear verbally with deckard, despite looking the same, these copies are not the same as the ones they loved.
This scene can also be seen as K viewing the factory zero of the Joi product and how both she and K started out the same way. The black eyes that she possesses could be a symbol of how every Joi product starts out the same, all with preset programming and no variety with each product. And unfortunately, the product does have fall back on her preset programming at times, like when she names him.
But like K, despite being made as a product to be used, their experiences helped adapt who they would become and they would both end up making decisions on their own free will. K's Joi had been shaped by her time with him, and became her own person who would make decisions that went against K's wishes, such as the syncing scene, where you can see that K is visibly upset with what Joi what wanted to do with him, and also her wish to be removed from the home console and placed into the emanator, compared to the pink Joi ad, who acts the same as all the other ads scattered around the city, only trying to demonstrate what the ad is intending to sell.
I also do not believe that this is his first viewing of the pink Joi ad, or any Joi ad the had the what you want to hear sales pitch. You can see in the film and the replicant pursuit vr experience that the Joi product is marketed everywhere. The pink joi ad, or one just like it is located near the Wallace Corp building. There's a joi ad near the LAPD building, and one trying to sell the emanator near his apartment. What I'm trying to say is the idea of him seeing this type of ad for the first time or seeing the what you want to hear sales pitch for the first time is strange since the city is populated with these ads.
Also, do consider how when the syncing scene ends, after K and Joi embrace, the film then cuts to a building somewhere in the city with a Joi ad that had those exact words. Why would the film show that after what we just saw in the syncing scene? This could be interpreted as the film putting the initial thoughts the viewer might have had for Joi from when you first see her into question. She's just a holographic girlfriend, right? Why would she do such a thing? Why would she want to engage in something so intimate and emotional which K was against?
Whatever the truth behind her character may be, I felt that the affection the both K and Joi held for each other was genuine, and these songs fit perfectly as an audible description of who K's Joi was.
(And with the coming release of Blade Runner: Memory Lab, it seems that the Jois share more similarities to replicants in the sense that they are categorized into different types, like how in the first film Roy was a soldier model replicant and Pris was a pleasure model, and still retain personality traits that separate them from other versions)
Date: 2020-07-14
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Zeratulr
(OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS) Another pretty big set of questions regarding the plot of the movie has to do with the whole hiding the baby scheme. So. why was there a record about the birth of the baby in the computer in the first place? They didn't need it to set her up for orphanage since she presumably died in that orphanage anyway. Did the guy who uses child slave larbor ask for the birth certificate? What was the point of making entries about identical twins being born, escpecially since it was an incredibly suspicious coincidence which immediately draw the attention of anyone who looked? It seems to me that Harrison Ford is not that good at covering tracks after all. Most importantly how does the whole theory that the baby would pose as replicant make any sense (K thought that about himself and then he said to Joshi that the child he claimed he retired was a replicant employed by the government? I mean, all the replicants have some sort of serial number
slave tattoo (or worse) at some place. Would having the incredibly important child bear such marking make it incredibly hard to prove that he was actually naturally born?
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(OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS) Another pretty big set of questions regarding the plot of the movie has to do with the whole hiding the baby scheme. So. why was there a record about the birth of the baby in the computer in the first place? They didn't need it to set her up for orphanage since she presumably died in that orphanage anyway. Did the guy who uses child slave larbor ask for the birth certificate? What was the point of making entries about identical twins being born, escpecially since it was an incredibly suspicious coincidence which immediately draw the attention of anyone who looked? It seems to me that Harrison Ford is not that good at covering tracks after all. Most importantly how does the whole theory that the baby would pose as replicant make any sense (K thought that about himself and then he said to Joshi that the child he claimed he retired was a replicant employed by the government? I mean, all the replicants have some sort of serial number
slave tattoo (or worse) at some place. Would having the incredibly important child bear such marking make it incredibly hard to prove that he was actually naturally born?
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tobroken1965
I have some questions, how is it that breeding replicants is faster than manufacturing? In both films, L. A. seems to get almost constant rain and even snow, why do the other areas in the movie look like it has never rained? If they need a sea wall to hold back the ocean, why does K only get a half second blast of 99. 9 percent decontaminated water? Has no one in the future heard of distillation? How did Joi contact the hooker? and why did she put the tracker in K's pocket? K went to them, they didnt come to him. Or was she working for the Blade runners? When Deckard got busted in Vegas, why didnt the retrieval team sweep the entire area for more runnaways? And why was Vegas still empty? The radiation levels were nominal as stated in the movie. And why was Luv soooooo intense? Where does she fit in? Also, what kind of revolution do they expect? How many replicants can there be if they were all supposed to be off world anyway?
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I have some questions, how is it that breeding replicants is faster than manufacturing? In both films, L. A. seems to get almost constant rain and even snow, why do the other areas in the movie look like it has never rained? If they need a sea wall to hold back the ocean, why does K only get a half second blast of 99. 9 percent decontaminated water? Has no one in the future heard of distillation? How did Joi contact the hooker? and why did she put the tracker in K's pocket? K went to them, they didnt come to him. Or was she working for the Blade runners? When Deckard got busted in Vegas, why didnt the retrieval team sweep the entire area for more runnaways? And why was Vegas still empty? The radiation levels were nominal as stated in the movie. And why was Luv soooooo intense? Where does she fit in? Also, what kind of revolution do they expect? How many replicants can there be if they were all supposed to be off world anyway?
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Youssef
Some questions are answered:
1. Joi brought in Mariette because when Joe (K) was talking to Mariette earlier in the film Joi was listening. The device Joi was on even made a noise, which is why Mariette said that Joe prefers women who aren't real and walked away. Joi even says that she knew Joe liked Mariette and that's why she picked her.
2. Joe is tracking down Sapper Morton because someone in 2048: Nowhere To Run (the short on YouTube) recognized he was a replicant at the end of the short film and called it in, most likely a guy that works for the LAPD. Joe finding the remains of Rachel and the date engraved on the base of the tree which connected to his memory was accidental. Nobody set this up.
3. Ana didn't appear to know Deckard was her father. Her facial expression while seeing him showed that he was just another stranger, she looked at him the same way she looked at Joe, simply happy to have a visitor.
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Some questions are answered:
1. Joi brought in Mariette because when Joe (K) was talking to Mariette earlier in the film Joi was listening. The device Joi was on even made a noise, which is why Mariette said that Joe prefers women who aren't real and walked away. Joi even says that she knew Joe liked Mariette and that's why she picked her.
2. Joe is tracking down Sapper Morton because someone in 2048: Nowhere To Run (the short on YouTube) recognized he was a replicant at the end of the short film and called it in, most likely a guy that works for the LAPD. Joe finding the remains of Rachel and the date engraved on the base of the tree which connected to his memory was accidental. Nobody set this up.
3. Ana didn't appear to know Deckard was her father. Her facial expression while seeing him showed that he was just another stranger, she looked at him the same way she looked at Joe, simply happy to have a visitor.
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Catie
About Ana (Anna, I think a plausible explanation was that she was adopted. The story she gave about her parents was when she was 8. The records list the girl dying at the orphanage at 5. I think she was adopted at that age, the replicants fudged the records to make it seem like she died and to have the focus shift to the boy with the same DNA (so anyone looking would be focusing on the wrong gender.
About the memory, Ana was crying but her reaction wasn't like How did he get this? Also the prostitute replicant recognized the toy horse and said something about it being the horse from the dream. I think Ana had been illegally sneaking that memory into whatever memory packages she had been selling. Why? She wanted to leave a part of herself behind? She hoped someone would find the beloved toy she could never go back for?
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About Ana (Anna, I think a plausible explanation was that she was adopted. The story she gave about her parents was when she was 8. The records list the girl dying at the orphanage at 5. I think she was adopted at that age, the replicants fudged the records to make it seem like she died and to have the focus shift to the boy with the same DNA (so anyone looking would be focusing on the wrong gender.
About the memory, Ana was crying but her reaction wasn't like How did he get this? Also the prostitute replicant recognized the toy horse and said something about it being the horse from the dream. I think Ana had been illegally sneaking that memory into whatever memory packages she had been selling. Why? She wanted to leave a part of herself behind? She hoped someone would find the beloved toy she could never go back for?
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GB
The first thing that the film explains about nexus 9 models, like K, is that they are fully obedient, unlike nexus 8's who rebelled. As such, 9's are used to hunt down 8's. However, K appears different. Even before hints that he may be Deckard's son were given, he has shown signs of disobedience, doubts and even guilt. He hesitates when he is ordered to kill a human, he lies about the full extent of his memories, and subtlety disobeys orders. He also shares memories of Deckard's child even though he is not an 8. What if the daugher was a false flag? What if K really is the son of a replicant, or replicants, if Deckard turns out to be one? What if Deckard really had twins, and was merely told that the other died? Whatever the case, K is special as Joi tells him, and the film has no concrete explanation why that is.
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The first thing that the film explains about nexus 9 models, like K, is that they are fully obedient, unlike nexus 8's who rebelled. As such, 9's are used to hunt down 8's. However, K appears different. Even before hints that he may be Deckard's son were given, he has shown signs of disobedience, doubts and even guilt. He hesitates when he is ordered to kill a human, he lies about the full extent of his memories, and subtlety disobeys orders. He also shares memories of Deckard's child even though he is not an 8. What if the daugher was a false flag? What if K really is the son of a replicant, or replicants, if Deckard turns out to be one? What if Deckard really had twins, and was merely told that the other died? Whatever the case, K is special as Joi tells him, and the film has no concrete explanation why that is.
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Caden
K and Joe are different men in the same man being played by the two sides.
Wallace created K in order to flush out the hybrid child, capture and duplicate the hybrid and create a self replicating slave race. Wallace gave K (and some other potential rebels) the wooden horse (really a wooden unicorn) memories in order to flush the hybrid out. It worked.
The Rebels created Joe (by altering Joi and by direct contact) in order to find the hybrid child, secure it and use it to prove that Replicants are people too, ending the slavery of Replicants. The Rebels used old style spying and hacking (Joi was an altered AI agent for the Rebels, to turn K into a Rebel agent, Joe. It worked.
Part III, The Wallace Empire vs The Rebels vs Humanity
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K and Joe are different men in the same man being played by the two sides.
Wallace created K in order to flush out the hybrid child, capture and duplicate the hybrid and create a self replicating slave race. Wallace gave K (and some other potential rebels) the wooden horse (really a wooden unicorn) memories in order to flush the hybrid out. It worked.
The Rebels created Joe (by altering Joi and by direct contact) in order to find the hybrid child, secure it and use it to prove that Replicants are people too, ending the slavery of Replicants. The Rebels used old style spying and hacking (Joi was an altered AI agent for the Rebels, to turn K into a Rebel agent, Joe. It worked.
Part III, The Wallace Empire vs The Rebels vs Humanity
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Viewer
Q: What is the nature of the test K took?
I have a simple revision that would make Blade Runner 2049 more impactful without barely changing anything. In the original the Voight-Kampff test detected replicants due to their (very slight) dissimilarity to humans; however very little is known about the test K undergoes other than he is off baseline.
What if baseline = factory settings, and the newer replicants are retired when then act too human? If we knew that K was beginning to act human because he's moved Joi onto the emanator - then this would make Joi a more important part of the story and it would underscore the inhumanity of humans that retire replicants who become too much like them.
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Q: What is the nature of the test K took?
I have a simple revision that would make Blade Runner 2049 more impactful without barely changing anything. In the original the Voight-Kampff test detected replicants due to their (very slight) dissimilarity to humans; however very little is known about the test K undergoes other than he is off baseline.
What if baseline = factory settings, and the newer replicants are retired when then act too human? If we knew that K was beginning to act human because he's moved Joi onto the emanator - then this would make Joi a more important part of the story and it would underscore the inhumanity of humans that retire replicants who become too much like them.
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Dakota
Deckard is a replicant no ordinary human can hunt replicants as they are intelligent, fast, far superior in strength and higher pain tolerance as well as combat skills and not to mention they say deckard has the key maybe to a newer model and agent K might've died he got shot and lost a lot of blood and got stabbed in the lung not mention he was a unique replicant and for people wondering how hr survived getting his head smashed through a concrete wall, he is a replicants a newer model, stronger, tougher, faster and more intelligent and he displays it by running straight through a concrete wall and joi did love him, she wanted to be with him, she risked even being terminated and did for him.
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Deckard is a replicant no ordinary human can hunt replicants as they are intelligent, fast, far superior in strength and higher pain tolerance as well as combat skills and not to mention they say deckard has the key maybe to a newer model and agent K might've died he got shot and lost a lot of blood and got stabbed in the lung not mention he was a unique replicant and for people wondering how hr survived getting his head smashed through a concrete wall, he is a replicants a newer model, stronger, tougher, faster and more intelligent and he displays it by running straight through a concrete wall and joi did love him, she wanted to be with him, she risked even being terminated and did for him.
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Stereo
Here are my questions:
1. Why Wallace and Rebellion fight each other? One's goal does not hinder another's.
2. Did Ana remember that memory of being in orphanage brought by K? And if she did, why didn't she tell K it's her memory? I mean, she lived most of her life in a bubble, she shoulf have remembered something like that.
3. How did Deckart survive for so long if he's a replicant? Replicants have short life span if I remember first movie correctly.
4. So, K killed Luv and. what? Can't Wallace just create new one? He'll be sending more and more hunters to track Deckart and Ana
Would be glad if someone explains that to me, I feel like I've missed something
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Here are my questions:
1. Why Wallace and Rebellion fight each other? One's goal does not hinder another's.
2. Did Ana remember that memory of being in orphanage brought by K? And if she did, why didn't she tell K it's her memory? I mean, she lived most of her life in a bubble, she shoulf have remembered something like that.
3. How did Deckart survive for so long if he's a replicant? Replicants have short life span if I remember first movie correctly.
4. So, K killed Luv and. what? Can't Wallace just create new one? He'll be sending more and more hunters to track Deckart and Ana
Would be glad if someone explains that to me, I feel like I've missed something
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