
Corn vs flour tortillas
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Date: 2020-02-25
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Ali
Love these kind of videos Adam, a different and interesting way to look at the history and culture of the food that had become our culture. One thought about this topic in particular though regarding your stance on the cultural appropriation topic. An act of cultural appropriation like Mr. Bell's isn't any less significant just because the people who he took advantage of aren't offended. As a third party, you should be able to look at the situation and recognize that Glen Bell took advantage of the hospitality and niceness of his neighbours and their decision to share their culture with him, and went and made millions from it. The fact that he didn't share any of his platform to even give credit to or promote that restaurant that helped him shows his character, does it not? To not mention their name in a book published decades after the success of his established company, an act that would cost him nothing, says it all. There's no reason not to. Just because the step daughter of the man decided not to give an emotional or belligerent quote to that author doesn't mean that what Glen Bell did was fair or right. It just shows that she chooses not to be bitter about an issue that is many decades old, and to let bygones be bygones.
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Love these kind of videos Adam, a different and interesting way to look at the history and culture of the food that had become our culture. One thought about this topic in particular though regarding your stance on the cultural appropriation topic. An act of cultural appropriation like Mr. Bell's isn't any less significant just because the people who he took advantage of aren't offended. As a third party, you should be able to look at the situation and recognize that Glen Bell took advantage of the hospitality and niceness of his neighbours and their decision to share their culture with him, and went and made millions from it. The fact that he didn't share any of his platform to even give credit to or promote that restaurant that helped him shows his character, does it not? To not mention their name in a book published decades after the success of his established company, an act that would cost him nothing, says it all. There's no reason not to. Just because the step daughter of the man decided not to give an emotional or belligerent quote to that author doesn't mean that what Glen Bell did was fair or right. It just shows that she chooses not to be bitter about an issue that is many decades old, and to let bygones be bygones.
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RyuuTenno
I don't think that what he did was actually wrong. I mean, you've got the basic American idea I place, of doing what you love and being successful, but, I honestly think it's more than that. He was in a unique position. Sure, the restaurant across from him was doing well in its own right, but, I think he was able to open the doors for multiple others to be successful. Because, when would we be without the Mexican foods? I think that he actually did a lot more good than people would realize. Because, honestly, there really aren't that many Mexican foods i can honestly list off, and, most of then i know because of Taco Bell. And I'm sure I'm not the only one like this. Certainly not saying it's the majority or anything like that either. And, to top it off, Taco Bell is actually considered pretty low tier when it comes to quality, which means that, while everyone's interested in Mexican food, they'll try out Taco Bell first, then, move on to the better quality places in the area. I think he's simply opened the doors for that type of food to be more desirable, which, if you ask me, helps to improve so much between both the US and Mexico, regardless of other things going on.
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I don't think that what he did was actually wrong. I mean, you've got the basic American idea I place, of doing what you love and being successful, but, I honestly think it's more than that. He was in a unique position. Sure, the restaurant across from him was doing well in its own right, but, I think he was able to open the doors for multiple others to be successful. Because, when would we be without the Mexican foods? I think that he actually did a lot more good than people would realize. Because, honestly, there really aren't that many Mexican foods i can honestly list off, and, most of then i know because of Taco Bell. And I'm sure I'm not the only one like this. Certainly not saying it's the majority or anything like that either. And, to top it off, Taco Bell is actually considered pretty low tier when it comes to quality, which means that, while everyone's interested in Mexican food, they'll try out Taco Bell first, then, move on to the better quality places in the area. I think he's simply opened the doors for that type of food to be more desirable, which, if you ask me, helps to improve so much between both the US and Mexico, regardless of other things going on.
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indexHTML
I know the counter to this is likely something along the lines of: yeah but you have historic power over other cultures, if so please tell me how that is at all a good argument. However as a British person I can't think of anything in British culture that people on a wide scale give a shit about if it is Appropriated not seriously anyway. :ike we all take the piss out of other people doing British things like a cup of tea or Fish and Chips, but I actually don't think anyone in England actually authentically gives a shit. Even with something as large as Football (Soccer) no one cares about other western nations playing it, same goes for any other sport invented by the Brits. It could be that the UK doesn't have anything worth appropriating so people don't get offended. Actually the only places in the UK where I can see some sort of sacrilege being committed if it is taken by other cultures would be Scotland with their Whisky and Kilts, and maybe some religious stuff in Northern Ireland. I am not trying to be a dick I just can't see how people legitimately give a shit if other people do things from your culture incorrectly.
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I know the counter to this is likely something along the lines of: yeah but you have historic power over other cultures, if so please tell me how that is at all a good argument. However as a British person I can't think of anything in British culture that people on a wide scale give a shit about if it is Appropriated not seriously anyway. :ike we all take the piss out of other people doing British things like a cup of tea or Fish and Chips, but I actually don't think anyone in England actually authentically gives a shit. Even with something as large as Football (Soccer) no one cares about other western nations playing it, same goes for any other sport invented by the Brits. It could be that the UK doesn't have anything worth appropriating so people don't get offended. Actually the only places in the UK where I can see some sort of sacrilege being committed if it is taken by other cultures would be Scotland with their Whisky and Kilts, and maybe some religious stuff in Northern Ireland. I am not trying to be a dick I just can't see how people legitimately give a shit if other people do things from your culture incorrectly.
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errelevant
Culture appropriation is just one more nonsense overly sensitive people have made up to get triggered by and that people with white guilt, like Adam keep on corroborating. I'm not from the U. S. nor is English my mother tongue and I find that most people like me, regardless of culture of origin do not give a second thought to culture appropriation, most of us genuinely don't care, but it seems like those kids who grow up in these countries, like in the US from immigrant non-white background are the ones getting triggered for people appropriating something that technically isn't even their culture either, because they're actually from the US, not from their parent's place. It's like some sort of identity problem, not knowing where they belong, that they manifest by getting offended by nonsense. Also, if it happens that Adam reads this, one of my favourite phrases lately is Get woke, go broke. A lot of people are finally getting tired of this woke nonsense and if you keep going this white-guilt-ridden woke route, people like me are going to go distance ourselves from you.
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Culture appropriation is just one more nonsense overly sensitive people have made up to get triggered by and that people with white guilt, like Adam keep on corroborating. I'm not from the U. S. nor is English my mother tongue and I find that most people like me, regardless of culture of origin do not give a second thought to culture appropriation, most of us genuinely don't care, but it seems like those kids who grow up in these countries, like in the US from immigrant non-white background are the ones getting triggered for people appropriating something that technically isn't even their culture either, because they're actually from the US, not from their parent's place. It's like some sort of identity problem, not knowing where they belong, that they manifest by getting offended by nonsense. Also, if it happens that Adam reads this, one of my favourite phrases lately is Get woke, go broke. A lot of people are finally getting tired of this woke nonsense and if you keep going this white-guilt-ridden woke route, people like me are going to go distance ourselves from you.
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Pete
My family is actually from Northern Mexico, and the culture around tortillas is a little more mixed actually. Flour tortillas are definitely more common than in most of Mexico, but corn tortillas definitely play a big part in the food still. Every restaurant you go to will most likely ask you if you want your tacos on corn or flour tortillas, which youd be hard pressed finding anywhere else in Mexico. Also, one Northern Mexican food you should definitely try is a sincronizada al pastor. You lay a small flour tortilla flat on a pan, add some pastor and a healthy amount of cheese, then add another tortilla and flip it. You want it almost charred, and when done, cut it up like a pizza and serve with cilantro. Its seriously delicious. Side note: you mentioned the size of corn tortillas, and while its definitely hard to make them big, theres actually this one place in Nuevo Laredo that sells some delicious quesadillas about a foot in diameter made from corn tortillas.
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My family is actually from Northern Mexico, and the culture around tortillas is a little more mixed actually. Flour tortillas are definitely more common than in most of Mexico, but corn tortillas definitely play a big part in the food still. Every restaurant you go to will most likely ask you if you want your tacos on corn or flour tortillas, which youd be hard pressed finding anywhere else in Mexico. Also, one Northern Mexican food you should definitely try is a sincronizada al pastor. You lay a small flour tortilla flat on a pan, add some pastor and a healthy amount of cheese, then add another tortilla and flip it. You want it almost charred, and when done, cut it up like a pizza and serve with cilantro. Its seriously delicious. Side note: you mentioned the size of corn tortillas, and while its definitely hard to make them big, theres actually this one place in Nuevo Laredo that sells some delicious quesadillas about a foot in diameter made from corn tortillas.
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WetKid
You say cultural appropriation is real and bad but then cite the daughter who said it was fine and her opinion matters more. There's so much logical inconsistencies. If the daughter of a slave said, hey, it wasn't so bad, does her opinion matter more than an uninvolved bystander who strongly objects to slavery? But honestly, I find it's mostly white people standing up against cultural appropriation. If Tex-mex chains put latino food on the map, cool, that makes the taco stand run by real mexicans less intimidating/foreign to the average person and their niche becomes larger, seems like everyone wins. I also think its a real show of respect when someone not-of-my-culture learns, in depth, things about my culture. How many amazing white sushi chefs are there who learned in Japan from Japanese. is this cultural appropriation? Life is so short, yet we sit opining on whether or not its just that someone learned how to make a taco from a Meixcan then got rich.
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You say cultural appropriation is real and bad but then cite the daughter who said it was fine and her opinion matters more. There's so much logical inconsistencies. If the daughter of a slave said, hey, it wasn't so bad, does her opinion matter more than an uninvolved bystander who strongly objects to slavery? But honestly, I find it's mostly white people standing up against cultural appropriation. If Tex-mex chains put latino food on the map, cool, that makes the taco stand run by real mexicans less intimidating/foreign to the average person and their niche becomes larger, seems like everyone wins. I also think its a real show of respect when someone not-of-my-culture learns, in depth, things about my culture. How many amazing white sushi chefs are there who learned in Japan from Japanese. is this cultural appropriation? Life is so short, yet we sit opining on whether or not its just that someone learned how to make a taco from a Meixcan then got rich.
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M7
Adam just warm up the corn tortillas then store them in a tortilla holder until ready. Some places make larger thicker corn tortillas and with this method you can make your burritos. It's just that the smaller thinner ones are more traditional but if prepared similar to the flour ones they'll be almost as versatile. They simply lack malleability but they get that with the method I listed above. I prepare my flour tortillas the same way and I thought everyone prepared their tortillas this way. I mean I've never worked in a Mexican restaurant but the way all of the tortillas that have ever been served to me were hot usually steamed with other tortillas.
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Adam just warm up the corn tortillas then store them in a tortilla holder until ready. Some places make larger thicker corn tortillas and with this method you can make your burritos. It's just that the smaller thinner ones are more traditional but if prepared similar to the flour ones they'll be almost as versatile. They simply lack malleability but they get that with the method I listed above. I prepare my flour tortillas the same way and I thought everyone prepared their tortillas this way. I mean I've never worked in a Mexican restaurant but the way all of the tortillas that have ever been served to me were hot usually steamed with other tortillas.
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Alexander
I don't think using food ideas from other countries is appropriation. I also don't think of Taco Bell as real, authentic Mexican food. Cooking is just like art. Chefs have their different styles and methods and everyone does it differently. I don't think you can steal cultural ideas of food just because you liked the way they did something so you replicated it. Did you appropriate New Yorkers when you stole their pizza idea and posted it on the internet how you made it? No You simply showed the internet, This is how I replicate New York style pizza and here is what I like to do to it. That's my take on it.
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I don't think using food ideas from other countries is appropriation. I also don't think of Taco Bell as real, authentic Mexican food. Cooking is just like art. Chefs have their different styles and methods and everyone does it differently. I don't think you can steal cultural ideas of food just because you liked the way they did something so you replicated it. Did you appropriate New Yorkers when you stole their pizza idea and posted it on the internet how you made it? No You simply showed the internet, This is how I replicate New York style pizza and here is what I like to do to it. That's my take on it.
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Cubas
Taco Bell is my fast food fix, otherwise, it's right by a store that sells all these ingredients from different cultures. It's cultural appropriation despite the input of who we'd assume to be hurt. And making a culture's dishes more palatable isn't the worst thing in itself. I think instead of just being upset, we need to lift up community projects/restaurants to introduce people to good food made by locals. At least while capitalism is a thing, then that becomes the default as it's an accessible ambition. I'm glad to see it didn't ruin the buisness and it is passed onto next generations.
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Taco Bell is my fast food fix, otherwise, it's right by a store that sells all these ingredients from different cultures. It's cultural appropriation despite the input of who we'd assume to be hurt. And making a culture's dishes more palatable isn't the worst thing in itself. I think instead of just being upset, we need to lift up community projects/restaurants to introduce people to good food made by locals. At least while capitalism is a thing, then that becomes the default as it's an accessible ambition. I'm glad to see it didn't ruin the buisness and it is passed onto next generations.
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