HW News - Microsoft Buys Bethesda, NVIDIA Changing SLI, TSMC 5nm Fully Claimed
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Date: 2020-09-22
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ICEMANZIDANE
Bethesda is the Dev/Pub who got criticized the most here on the internet cause they make shit. Now the ppl who were laughing about them are the same ones who are hyping them (or hyping MS s deal). Ppl forget so fast.
- Sony exclusive Devs
- Rockstar Games
- CD Project
are the only ones bringing the industry forward and developing AAA huge budget games. Bethesda on the other hand is still using a shitty engine in Fallout and is selling you each Bug for 1 dollar. I dont understand the MS/Betheada hype at all. In fact both companies fit to each other quite well, MS didnt have good exclusived and Bethesda didnt have good games so ..
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Bethesda is the Dev/Pub who got criticized the most here on the internet cause they make shit. Now the ppl who were laughing about them are the same ones who are hyping them (or hyping MS s deal). Ppl forget so fast.
- Sony exclusive Devs
- Rockstar Games
- CD Project
are the only ones bringing the industry forward and developing AAA huge budget games. Bethesda on the other hand is still using a shitty engine in Fallout and is selling you each Bug for 1 dollar. I dont understand the MS/Betheada hype at all. In fact both companies fit to each other quite well, MS didnt have good exclusived and Bethesda didnt have good games so ..
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En
All these people saying that their games are going to suddenly be exlcusives are clowns. Microsoft's game division has always far outsold the consoles themselves. Their games are their primary source of profit, not their consoles. By not having some of their titles be on the Playstation, they would actually be hurting their bottom-line. Spent 2.5 billion for 1IP being mincraft. Spent 7 Billion for numerous IP s. Seems pretty balanced. Not to mention they bought Obsidian and Outer Worlds all weren't exclusive to the Xbox. Xbox s history with buying companies completely disagrees with the exclusives statement.
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All these people saying that their games are going to suddenly be exlcusives are clowns. Microsoft's game division has always far outsold the consoles themselves. Their games are their primary source of profit, not their consoles. By not having some of their titles be on the Playstation, they would actually be hurting their bottom-line. Spent 2.5 billion for 1IP being mincraft. Spent 7 Billion for numerous IP s. Seems pretty balanced. Not to mention they bought Obsidian and Outer Worlds all weren't exclusive to the Xbox. Xbox s history with buying companies completely disagrees with the exclusives statement.
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Themoonisacheese
in case you're wondering why oracle is hated in the development world, it's because they used to be a development company, and then realized that they could make way more money by hiring lawyers instead of programmers in order to sue literally anyone for anything ever. They buy a bunch of things tech related (including Sun microsystems, creators of the Java programming language) and then sue anyone using something similar to what they bought, including suing minecraft creators Mojang for their use of Java to make their game. they stand to gain a lot if software patents are ever enforceable.
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in case you're wondering why oracle is hated in the development world, it's because they used to be a development company, and then realized that they could make way more money by hiring lawyers instead of programmers in order to sue literally anyone for anything ever. They buy a bunch of things tech related (including Sun microsystems, creators of the Java programming language) and then sue anyone using something similar to what they bought, including suing minecraft creators Mojang for their use of Java to make their game. they stand to gain a lot if software patents are ever enforceable.
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Desktopia
What is needed, are games that have next gen console hardware as minimum or recommended hardware - at least. A game that has an old 4c cpu and an old budget GPU as recommended still in the late 2020, is unlikely to have high quality AI, physics nor graphics. EDIT: Looking at the video, it looks a bit like maybe Division 2 level graphics. (I just checked) Division 2 actually has the same CPU recommendation at 1080/60fps and the GPU recommendation of CP2077 is right between Div2 1080p and Div2 1440p, so... sigh
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What is needed, are games that have next gen console hardware as minimum or recommended hardware - at least. A game that has an old 4c cpu and an old budget GPU as recommended still in the late 2020, is unlikely to have high quality AI, physics nor graphics. EDIT: Looking at the video, it looks a bit like maybe Division 2 level graphics. (I just checked) Division 2 actually has the same CPU recommendation at 1080/60fps and the GPU recommendation of CP2077 is right between Div2 1080p and Div2 1440p, so... sigh
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wolflarson100
The only reason I want Intel to succeed is they have tried to sustain their own foundry operations . I am uncomfortable having major product lines affected by who can buy up fab space successfully with TMSC and the like. It is a huge concentration of risk. What if a natural event like an earthquake or leaking roof takes out the 5mm facility tomorrow? Or a fire? Obviously TSMC found the secret sauce for 7mm and 5mm but their production lines can not service everyone.
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The only reason I want Intel to succeed is they have tried to sustain their own foundry operations . I am uncomfortable having major product lines affected by who can buy up fab space successfully with TMSC and the like. It is a huge concentration of risk. What if a natural event like an earthquake or leaking roof takes out the 5mm facility tomorrow? Or a fire? Obviously TSMC found the secret sauce for 7mm and 5mm but their production lines can not service everyone.
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Sinister
I still can't wrap my head around why China gets a say in the ARM acquisition. UK, sure, ARM is mostly a British company. Japan, alright, Softbank is Japanese. US, obviously, Nvidia is a US company. Where does China fit into any of this? They want their own homegrown tech anywho so why would they care or even be considered when they've stated as much.
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I still can't wrap my head around why China gets a say in the ARM acquisition. UK, sure, ARM is mostly a British company. Japan, alright, Softbank is Japanese. US, obviously, Nvidia is a US company. Where does China fit into any of this? They want their own homegrown tech anywho so why would they care or even be considered when they've stated as much.
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Pasi
I'm not at all interested about watchdogs, but I'm going to buy high tier ryzen for cyberpunk. I have already rtx2080super, but cpu/mem/mobo is older, so I'll bump up the main system once i know how much more i need power, and i'll wait and see the 3090 prices and decide between 3080-3090 variants. I want to play everything in 5120x1440.
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I'm not at all interested about watchdogs, but I'm going to buy high tier ryzen for cyberpunk. I have already rtx2080super, but cpu/mem/mobo is older, so I'll bump up the main system once i know how much more i need power, and i'll wait and see the 3090 prices and decide between 3080-3090 variants. I want to play everything in 5120x1440.
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John
Would be really interesting to test how many PCIe Gen 4.0 lanes you need for a 30 (maybe 20 as well?) series GPU.
Since previously PCIe Gen 3.0 at 8x gave similar performance vs. 16x. PCIe gen 4.0 at 4x should be a similar bandwidth.
If PCIe gen 4.0 at 4x has similar performance vs. Gen 4.0 16x, that would be huge!
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Would be really interesting to test how many PCIe Gen 4.0 lanes you need for a 30 (maybe 20 as well?) series GPU.
Since previously PCIe Gen 3.0 at 8x gave similar performance vs. 16x. PCIe gen 4.0 at 4x should be a similar bandwidth.
If PCIe gen 4.0 at 4x has similar performance vs. Gen 4.0 16x, that would be huge!
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Weaver
Deveoper here - yes no one likes Oracle. The company makes 90% of its revenue of support contracts to help companies implement things with Oracle Database. It's a horrible DB by modern standards and the theory is they keep it intentionally awful so companies are forced to buy support contracts.
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Deveoper here - yes no one likes Oracle. The company makes 90% of its revenue of support contracts to help companies implement things with Oracle Database. It's a horrible DB by modern standards and the theory is they keep it intentionally awful so companies are forced to buy support contracts.
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Bob
In that Nvidia press release they do claim Shadow of the Tomb Raider (one of the games used in reviews) already has the SLI support baked in (along with about a dozen more games). Wouldn't mind seeing a dual 3080 test and see if at least that implementation makes a difference and by how much.
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In that Nvidia press release they do claim Shadow of the Tomb Raider (one of the games used in reviews) already has the SLI support baked in (along with about a dozen more games). Wouldn't mind seeing a dual 3080 test and see if at least that implementation makes a difference and by how much.
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