NVIDIA GTX 960 in 2021 Revisit: 4GB & 2GB Benchmarks vs. 2060, 3060 Ti, Used GPUs, & More
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Date: 2021-02-24
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Pwadigy
Great review! But I would like to point out that, despite the fact you were obviously joking, it is unironically kind of true that ultra-high-fps competitive gamers intentionally dial down settings, as increasing certain graphics settings can add a ton of eye-strain and headache when playing games that require constant hyperfocus on the center of the screen. A lot of these players will dial down their settings until they get a comfortable CPU bottleneck, and their GPU of choice is usually based on what will always exceed their CPU at minimum settings. Which usually doesn t take much. It s not really FPS snobbery, but ridiculously high hz monitors have been shown to increase performance in a handful of titles, and to run those high hz, reducing details is actually important for player health. Considering games like CS and OW really truly go down to less than 10s of milliseconds, you can t just say no to higher framerates and higher hz, so you have to adjust accordingly. Add in monitor strobing technology, and high details will give you a headache really fast. Also, when you re constantly focused on a very small area of the screen, increased FPS will improve the game s realism far more than better detail. Also, because reaction time to sound is as much as 100ms faster, competitive FPS players do heavily use sound to react and aim.
It s not like you have to be a pro to start having this stuff matter. At the higher ranks that casual players still reach in some games, the details in set-up start to matter due to how tight people are in game skill and mechanical skill.
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Great review! But I would like to point out that, despite the fact you were obviously joking, it is unironically kind of true that ultra-high-fps competitive gamers intentionally dial down settings, as increasing certain graphics settings can add a ton of eye-strain and headache when playing games that require constant hyperfocus on the center of the screen. A lot of these players will dial down their settings until they get a comfortable CPU bottleneck, and their GPU of choice is usually based on what will always exceed their CPU at minimum settings. Which usually doesn t take much. It s not really FPS snobbery, but ridiculously high hz monitors have been shown to increase performance in a handful of titles, and to run those high hz, reducing details is actually important for player health. Considering games like CS and OW really truly go down to less than 10s of milliseconds, you can t just say no to higher framerates and higher hz, so you have to adjust accordingly. Add in monitor strobing technology, and high details will give you a headache really fast. Also, when you re constantly focused on a very small area of the screen, increased FPS will improve the game s realism far more than better detail. Also, because reaction time to sound is as much as 100ms faster, competitive FPS players do heavily use sound to react and aim.
It s not like you have to be a pro to start having this stuff matter. At the higher ranks that casual players still reach in some games, the details in set-up start to matter due to how tight people are in game skill and mechanical skill.
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Just
Thanks for the info, especially with the current market. Used GPUs are over priced too, so this information is helpful to buyers.
I would have also liked to see some GTX 1060 data as well (although that would have probably required more testing time). You included data from many other cards, including the 2060 (KO), which is helpful for comparisons. However, I would have like to see how XX60 cards compared. As I looked over the charts it's just an odd exclusion.
I can look up the data, that's not the issue. The exclusion of 1060 data, was just something I noticed. Maybe it'll appear in the 3060 video. Thanks!
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Thanks for the info, especially with the current market. Used GPUs are over priced too, so this information is helpful to buyers.
I would have also liked to see some GTX 1060 data as well (although that would have probably required more testing time). You included data from many other cards, including the 2060 (KO), which is helpful for comparisons. However, I would have like to see how XX60 cards compared. As I looked over the charts it's just an odd exclusion.
I can look up the data, that's not the issue. The exclusion of 1060 data, was just something I noticed. Maybe it'll appear in the 3060 video. Thanks!
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The
Damn, this speaks to me. I'm still hanging to my R9 380 4 GB that I bought in 2015, without a clear and sensible upgrade path. It was the AMD competitor to this one, very similar in performance at the time (revisited a year ago by upside-down Steve from HU, it's 14% faster now).
Now the once ripe 200- 250 GPU market has gone completely stale, it's so frustrating... It really bugs me to spend more than 300 for a similarly classed GPU, especially when nowadays I have less time for gaming than I used to.
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Damn, this speaks to me. I'm still hanging to my R9 380 4 GB that I bought in 2015, without a clear and sensible upgrade path. It was the AMD competitor to this one, very similar in performance at the time (revisited a year ago by upside-down Steve from HU, it's 14% faster now).
Now the once ripe 200- 250 GPU market has gone completely stale, it's so frustrating... It really bugs me to spend more than 300 for a similarly classed GPU, especially when nowadays I have less time for gaming than I used to.
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Sleelan
I'm a proud user of the 2GB version. I took it out of an old build and used it as a placeholder in a new build I did mid-2020, thinking that I'd be doing the reasonable thing by waiting for the new generation of GPUs since it ought to drive prices down. 8 months later I have a cool new 1440p monitor and a card that can maybe run games at 40fps on it if I sacrifice the quality. But at least I have more work area to look at the spreadsheet with ever increasing GPU prices in my country.
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I'm a proud user of the 2GB version. I took it out of an old build and used it as a placeholder in a new build I did mid-2020, thinking that I'd be doing the reasonable thing by waiting for the new generation of GPUs since it ought to drive prices down. 8 months later I have a cool new 1440p monitor and a card that can maybe run games at 40fps on it if I sacrifice the quality. But at least I have more work area to look at the spreadsheet with ever increasing GPU prices in my country.
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Spooky
the gtx 960 was the first gpu i bought, got it for 80 bucks at a second hand store in 2016(i was in highschool and 80 buck was the majority of my paycheck back then). it was a 4gb asus turbo model and it was a massive upgrade over the gt640 my uncle gave me to start out with. It was the first time i got to experience gaming at higher than 30 fps even tho it was 720p.
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the gtx 960 was the first gpu i bought, got it for 80 bucks at a second hand store in 2016(i was in highschool and 80 buck was the majority of my paycheck back then). it was a 4gb asus turbo model and it was a massive upgrade over the gt640 my uncle gave me to start out with. It was the first time i got to experience gaming at higher than 30 fps even tho it was 720p.
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HA_VE
hmmm. the results for the GTA test makes me wonder if there is something wrong in my system. I have a GTX980, with a ryzen 3600, 16gigs of ram, B550M Asus TUF motherboard and 1TB Samsung 970 M2 drive, and yet, i get horrible freezes in the game. Im talking drops to 1 fps from 140, and lagging in the save menu. Anyone knows what might be causing this?
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hmmm. the results for the GTA test makes me wonder if there is something wrong in my system. I have a GTX980, with a ryzen 3600, 16gigs of ram, B550M Asus TUF motherboard and 1TB Samsung 970 M2 drive, and yet, i get horrible freezes in the game. Im talking drops to 1 fps from 140, and lagging in the save menu. Anyone knows what might be causing this?
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TechGamer
what's annoying is that these 960's even the 2GB models are being sold at around the same price as the used RX 470 4Gb even though they are much weaker and on a much older architecture its like 2017-2018 again folks looks like 2021 is just getting started and its already looking to be worst than 2020 on the PC hardware front.
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what's annoying is that these 960's even the 2GB models are being sold at around the same price as the used RX 470 4Gb even though they are much weaker and on a much older architecture its like 2017-2018 again folks looks like 2021 is just getting started and its already looking to be worst than 2020 on the PC hardware front.
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ThatKoukiZ31
I bought an rx580 from a miner about a year ago for 120. It's becoming a better and better deal every day. Also I mined with it last week but its not productive anymore.
Whatever its still plenty for Doom Eternal which is insane. Its still a weird pairing with a 3800x but at least I have what I have lol.
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I bought an rx580 from a miner about a year ago for 120. It's becoming a better and better deal every day. Also I mined with it last week but its not productive anymore.
Whatever its still plenty for Doom Eternal which is insane. Its still a weird pairing with a 3800x but at least I have what I have lol.
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Gorbaz
I feel like the 2GB vs 4GB testing here is a bit skewed by the relatively high graphics settings... I would expect for example in R6 Siege, that the 2GB version does fine when you turn down the texture resolution and maybe one or two other settings. The same goes for quite a few of the other tested games.
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I feel like the 2GB vs 4GB testing here is a bit skewed by the relatively high graphics settings... I would expect for example in R6 Siege, that the 2GB version does fine when you turn down the texture resolution and maybe one or two other settings. The same goes for quite a few of the other tested games.
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Adin
We consumers can't even buy the new next gen GPUs.
NVIDIA: Don't worry. You can pay next gen GPUs price for our old gen GPUS... Here 1050 ti and 2060.
2014: GTX 980 549.99
2015: GTX 960 199.99
2020: RTX 3070 499.99REF? More like 800+AIB
2021: RTX 3060 TI 329.99REF? more like 500+ AIB
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We consumers can't even buy the new next gen GPUs.
NVIDIA: Don't worry. You can pay next gen GPUs price for our old gen GPUS... Here 1050 ti and 2060.
2014: GTX 980 549.99
2015: GTX 960 199.99
2020: RTX 3070 499.99REF? More like 800+AIB
2021: RTX 3060 TI 329.99REF? more like 500+ AIB
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