Intel SFF Pre-Built PC Review: Phantom Canyon NUC Thermals, Tear-Down, & Benchmarks
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Date: 2021-04-22
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Monarch
You have to give Intel credit where credit is due, they always did them well.
We even deployed some Hades Canyon as editing rigs in an enterprise setting, but there they showed some weaknesses:
- The BIOS is atrocious. Devices would refuse to POST if PXE LAN is enabled and a ethernet connection is present
Furthermore, sometimes the device refuses to boot completely unless the CMOS battery is pulled.
- Vega M GL/GH is a dead end, both AMD and Intel don't support it in their newest drivers at all.
- The Hades Canyon NUCs seem to be super sensitive to voltage spikes despite being on an external PSU, sometimes it leads to no-boot BIOS bugs like mentioned above.
The other Bean Canyon NUCs we have all run perfectly, though.
As for the mobile workstation reasoning, yeah it's valid, but I would rather have a good laptop for productivity workloads, such as the Lenovo Legion 5 Pro.
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You have to give Intel credit where credit is due, they always did them well.
We even deployed some Hades Canyon as editing rigs in an enterprise setting, but there they showed some weaknesses:
- The BIOS is atrocious. Devices would refuse to POST if PXE LAN is enabled and a ethernet connection is present
Furthermore, sometimes the device refuses to boot completely unless the CMOS battery is pulled.
- Vega M GL/GH is a dead end, both AMD and Intel don't support it in their newest drivers at all.
- The Hades Canyon NUCs seem to be super sensitive to voltage spikes despite being on an external PSU, sometimes it leads to no-boot BIOS bugs like mentioned above.
The other Bean Canyon NUCs we have all run perfectly, though.
As for the mobile workstation reasoning, yeah it's valid, but I would rather have a good laptop for productivity workloads, such as the Lenovo Legion 5 Pro.
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tarfeef
If you want some advice/suggestions on truly portable desktops for stuff like trade shows, reply here and/or reach out. I built myself a LAN rig which is bigger than that NUC, and have a portable monitor, keyboard, and mouse+cables all in a bag that fits as a personal item on a plane, and is light/easy enough to carry I have been able to take it with me in/around the city for the entire day when travelling. I can provide some recommendations to help achieve something similar. I definitely prefer it to a laptop for intensive work when travelling.
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If you want some advice/suggestions on truly portable desktops for stuff like trade shows, reply here and/or reach out. I built myself a LAN rig which is bigger than that NUC, and have a portable monitor, keyboard, and mouse+cables all in a bag that fits as a personal item on a plane, and is light/easy enough to carry I have been able to take it with me in/around the city for the entire day when travelling. I can provide some recommendations to help achieve something similar. I definitely prefer it to a laptop for intensive work when travelling.
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ac3ofspades878
The NUC would make a perfect WFH (work from home) unit, small and discrete and powerful enough, and the ability to toss it in a backpack or briefcase when you do have to go to the office, otherwise it remains plugged in at home. Also its far more durable than a laptop, so companies arent dealing with broken screens and keyboard and shells every week like they do with issuing laptops to employees.
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The NUC would make a perfect WFH (work from home) unit, small and discrete and powerful enough, and the ability to toss it in a backpack or briefcase when you do have to go to the office, otherwise it remains plugged in at home. Also its far more durable than a laptop, so companies arent dealing with broken screens and keyboard and shells every week like they do with issuing laptops to employees.
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EclipseGST94
Someone really ought to make something like this but with 11375H, which is a little monster that ought to be socketed as the new i3 on desktop instead of a final skylake refresh. It beats the 3300x as is, without a laptop tdp limit it would scream. probably outgame most/all the rocket lake i5s in all but the shittiest optimized games. and thats why we can't have it....
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Someone really ought to make something like this but with 11375H, which is a little monster that ought to be socketed as the new i3 on desktop instead of a final skylake refresh. It beats the 3300x as is, without a laptop tdp limit it would scream. probably outgame most/all the rocket lake i5s in all but the shittiest optimized games. and thats why we can't have it....
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Nekko
I hear you talk about not having a good hole to metal ratio on these items, but have you guys looked into what that actual ratio is. Typically in a DC the perf doors on the front of a cabinet are 65% open air if you are go to more than that you do get more air but at diminishing returns and loss of structural integrity.
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I hear you talk about not having a good hole to metal ratio on these items, but have you guys looked into what that actual ratio is. Typically in a DC the perf doors on the front of a cabinet are 65% open air if you are go to more than that you do get more air but at diminishing returns and loss of structural integrity.
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Aharon
The Nucs are very interesting, but the price is nearly double the component price. This makes the NUC as some kind of thin client or mini desktop economic useless. What they need to make the price more reasonable is an Apple Logo, white design and only one connector to the outside world. This could work out though
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The Nucs are very interesting, but the price is nearly double the component price. This makes the NUC as some kind of thin client or mini desktop economic useless. What they need to make the price more reasonable is an Apple Logo, white design and only one connector to the outside world. This could work out though
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AAA
I know this is asking a lot but what would be the possibility to have the gpu mounted on one side of the silicon, the cpu on the other, and instead of having a small cooling solution have two larger cooling solutions mounted to both sides. Could that bring the possibility of higher ended GPUs being mounted?
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I know this is asking a lot but what would be the possibility to have the gpu mounted on one side of the silicon, the cpu on the other, and instead of having a small cooling solution have two larger cooling solutions mounted to both sides. Could that bring the possibility of higher ended GPUs being mounted?
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TheUncleshady
Does the unit work? Yes. Is it marketed weird as hell? Yes. Cringe skull? [X] Tryhard naming conventions? [X]. Feels like these would blow up with a marketing makeover. Also NUC doesn't really convey what the product does. It's basically a Mac Mini for Windows, and a good product, IMO.
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Does the unit work? Yes. Is it marketed weird as hell? Yes. Cringe skull? [X] Tryhard naming conventions? [X]. Feels like these would blow up with a marketing makeover. Also NUC doesn't really convey what the product does. It's basically a Mac Mini for Windows, and a good product, IMO.
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John
I totally don't need one, but I'll probably get one of these at some point. They're just too cool. Would make a good Plex server, I imagine, esp if it mounts a NAS storage volume to serve the content (NUC handling server and transcoding duty means you can get a cheaper NAS).
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I totally don't need one, but I'll probably get one of these at some point. They're just too cool. Would make a good Plex server, I imagine, esp if it mounts a NAS storage volume to serve the content (NUC handling server and transcoding duty means you can get a cheaper NAS).
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DrearierSpider1
That Hades Canyon NUC was really damn cool, most notably due to the SOC that had an Intel CPU w/ and AMD iGPU with HBM. Unfortunately, I believe they ended graphics driver support some time ago. IIRC it was only supported for around 2 years.
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That Hades Canyon NUC was really damn cool, most notably due to the SOC that had an Intel CPU w/ and AMD iGPU with HBM. Unfortunately, I believe they ended graphics driver support some time ago. IIRC it was only supported for around 2 years.
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