Extremely Compact PC Tear-Down & Disassembly: AYA NEO Handheld Gaming PC
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Date: 2021-04-27
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Tony_in_PA
Separating the main (motherboard) and controller PCBs is a way to help lower costs as well. The main PCB is going to be a high layer count with blind and buried vias (HDI) and it will also be impedance controlled. This is because of the high speed buses running on the board (PCIe, DDR). The controller PCBs don't have the layer count, density or high speed requirements, so they can be made with a less expensive process.
You can tell the boards are different just by the sheen of the solder mask. If you held them in your hand the construction would feel different too. The weave of the fiberglass in the main board is going to be much finer because it is a high speed controlled impedance board.
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Separating the main (motherboard) and controller PCBs is a way to help lower costs as well. The main PCB is going to be a high layer count with blind and buried vias (HDI) and it will also be impedance controlled. This is because of the high speed buses running on the board (PCIe, DDR). The controller PCBs don't have the layer count, density or high speed requirements, so they can be made with a less expensive process.
You can tell the boards are different just by the sheen of the solder mask. If you held them in your hand the construction would feel different too. The weave of the fiberglass in the main board is going to be much finer because it is a high speed controlled impedance board.
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cldpt
Just want to mention another company that does these handheld Windows gaming devices: One Netbook. They have a copycat mini Alienware design (Gx1) but are also working on a device like in the video. Most importantly, they have a very interesting 10inch 2in1 convertible which I believe is the smallest device with 11th gen chips on the market, and probably also the very first device on the category to have Usb4 with (uncertified!) Thunderbolt compatibility, which can even allow external GPUs according to their marketing. I've been tempted to get one myself at about 1.2k usd for the 16GB model but I'm just worried about customs to Europe
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Just want to mention another company that does these handheld Windows gaming devices: One Netbook. They have a copycat mini Alienware design (Gx1) but are also working on a device like in the video. Most importantly, they have a very interesting 10inch 2in1 convertible which I believe is the smallest device with 11th gen chips on the market, and probably also the very first device on the category to have Usb4 with (uncertified!) Thunderbolt compatibility, which can even allow external GPUs according to their marketing. I've been tempted to get one myself at about 1.2k usd for the 16GB model but I'm just worried about customs to Europe
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eiglow_
10:30 Size measurements for centrifugal blower fans are a bit weird... For example, a 120mm blower might refer to a typical 120x32mm form factor blower, where the opening only has a diameter of 80mm. Unlike most axial fans, the shroud of blowers is usually considered to be part of the same unit, because the angle of the blades needs to be designed in tandem with the shape of the shroud. Graphics card blowers are a bit different, but that's how it is for blowers that are used as chassis-mounted fans in a server, for example. As far as I know anyway.
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10:30 Size measurements for centrifugal blower fans are a bit weird... For example, a 120mm blower might refer to a typical 120x32mm form factor blower, where the opening only has a diameter of 80mm. Unlike most axial fans, the shroud of blowers is usually considered to be part of the same unit, because the angle of the blades needs to be designed in tandem with the shape of the shroud. Graphics card blowers are a bit different, but that's how it is for blowers that are used as chassis-mounted fans in a server, for example. As far as I know anyway.
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iamdarkyoshi
Fun fact, the kapton tape you found on those screw posts is for the pick n place machines to have something to grab onto with its vacuum pick up nozzle. They can be seen on other stuff as well, like HDMI ports on GPUs, raspberry pis, etc
In this case and many other cases, they're left in place after reflow if there's no harm leaving them in place. Sometimes they will have to be manually removed, like in the case of vertical connectors.
Source: I've run an SMT line at one of my old jobs
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Fun fact, the kapton tape you found on those screw posts is for the pick n place machines to have something to grab onto with its vacuum pick up nozzle. They can be seen on other stuff as well, like HDMI ports on GPUs, raspberry pis, etc
In this case and many other cases, they're left in place after reflow if there's no harm leaving them in place. Sometimes they will have to be manually removed, like in the case of vertical connectors.
Source: I've run an SMT line at one of my old jobs
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itech
I really like the art group that did the designs on it.
( you kind of busted their chops about the cannabis endorsement but think of the balls that takes in mainland china, as a Canadian its always funny to hear Americans laugh off legalization as some sort of teenaged pipe dream that could never work.)
Definitely going to be keeping my eyes out for more of their work.
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I really like the art group that did the designs on it.
( you kind of busted their chops about the cannabis endorsement but think of the balls that takes in mainland china, as a Canadian its always funny to hear Americans laugh off legalization as some sort of teenaged pipe dream that could never work.)
Definitely going to be keeping my eyes out for more of their work.
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bob345
whoops, that kapton tape on those heat-sink mounts shouldn't be there. Those solder in nuts are typically shipped with a kapton disc over the top to give the pick and place machine something to suction to. You normally want to remove that during the flux removal/cleaning step after re-flow during manufacturing.
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whoops, that kapton tape on those heat-sink mounts shouldn't be there. Those solder in nuts are typically shipped with a kapton disc over the top to give the pick and place machine something to suction to. You normally want to remove that during the flux removal/cleaning step after re-flow during manufacturing.
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Vortraz
I dont trust this Independent console comment it sounds like their trying to continue the Console exclusive war. Let it die. Let Epic Rot for bringing exclusive wars to Pc instead of being an actually better game client. Il spare you the rest of my rant but please. Equality for gamers. Tf.
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I dont trust this Independent console comment it sounds like their trying to continue the Console exclusive war. Let it die. Let Epic Rot for bringing exclusive wars to Pc instead of being an actually better game client. Il spare you the rest of my rant but please. Equality for gamers. Tf.
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120FPS4K
It seems like a robust unit and I get why they don't want to provide a litigious controller solution but I'd love to see them do a form factor without the controllers. Just gimme it as the tablet. Has me excited for 1/2CPU generations time think 1080/120fps could be a thing
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It seems like a robust unit and I get why they don't want to provide a litigious controller solution but I'd love to see them do a form factor without the controllers. Just gimme it as the tablet. Has me excited for 1/2CPU generations time think 1080/120fps could be a thing
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broz666
fixing the memory cooling sounds not to hard. just a thermalpad contacting the modules to the metal bottom fan housing could do. not a perfekt heat spreader (steel) but plenty of airflow as it's part of the main fan air duct...
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fixing the memory cooling sounds not to hard. just a thermalpad contacting the modules to the metal bottom fan housing could do. not a perfekt heat spreader (steel) but plenty of airflow as it's part of the main fan air duct...
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