Utter Incompetence: Liquid Metal Disaster in Minisforum HX90 Small AMD Gaming PC
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Date: 2021-09-11
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seligman99
MinisForum lost all of my good will when they shipped a Ryzen 7 3750H system without support for TPM. After realizing this will be a problem because of Win11, they did ship a BIOS update eventually. They shipped it by giving customers a link to mediafire to download a Word doc buried on a forum . Oh, and that Word doc includes another link to mediafire to download the update, in a rar file, and helpfully includes potato quality cell-phone pictures of Windows in the instructions. Of course, if you actually do all of this and enable TPM, sound output over HDMI breaks.
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MinisForum lost all of my good will when they shipped a Ryzen 7 3750H system without support for TPM. After realizing this will be a problem because of Win11, they did ship a BIOS update eventually. They shipped it by giving customers a link to mediafire to download a Word doc buried on a forum . Oh, and that Word doc includes another link to mediafire to download the update, in a rar file, and helpfully includes potato quality cell-phone pictures of Windows in the instructions. Of course, if you actually do all of this and enable TPM, sound output over HDMI breaks.
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Kobylla
As if their shortage and the price a salt to the wound weren't enough, there's this, a company trying to destroy a chip after getting it, during a chip shortage. Really now?
At least it's a good example that no newbie should mess with liquid metal or attempt it, not without sufficient knowledge and possibly practice on e.g. dead graphics card from a decade ago or some dusty dual core computer, to serve their last.
Good video, as always, GN, it's hard these days to find someone or something to keep oneself in high spirits, thank you!
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As if their shortage and the price a salt to the wound weren't enough, there's this, a company trying to destroy a chip after getting it, during a chip shortage. Really now?
At least it's a good example that no newbie should mess with liquid metal or attempt it, not without sufficient knowledge and possibly practice on e.g. dead graphics card from a decade ago or some dusty dual core computer, to serve their last.
Good video, as always, GN, it's hard these days to find someone or something to keep oneself in high spirits, thank you!
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John
Thank you so much for the videos and huge amount of work you and your team do! This machine was on my radar as a possible future purchase, and well.. now it's not. I'll look for some other brand with a 5700G CPU, or something different entirely. M1X Mac Mini, maybe? Asrock 4x4? Intel NUC? Or maybe a DIY Mini ITX build if I want to take on that challenge. But I really like the idea of a Ryzen APU based NUC like device. Anyone have a recommendation for a solidly good one?
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Thank you so much for the videos and huge amount of work you and your team do! This machine was on my radar as a possible future purchase, and well.. now it's not. I'll look for some other brand with a 5700G CPU, or something different entirely. M1X Mac Mini, maybe? Asrock 4x4? Intel NUC? Or maybe a DIY Mini ITX build if I want to take on that challenge. But I really like the idea of a Ryzen APU based NUC like device. Anyone have a recommendation for a solidly good one?
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John
I work on cars, I only ever see 'security Torx' on things like Immobilizers - who in the world puts them inside a PC!?
TIP: if you ever need to remove a 'security screw' you can do it with a ballpoint pen/toothbrush (e.g. plastic stick) and a fire source, simply heat up the stick, shove it into the screw, wait a few seconds for it to cool and you have a custom driver which will remove it (probably won't re-install it but why would you??)
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I work on cars, I only ever see 'security Torx' on things like Immobilizers - who in the world puts them inside a PC!?
TIP: if you ever need to remove a 'security screw' you can do it with a ballpoint pen/toothbrush (e.g. plastic stick) and a fire source, simply heat up the stick, shove it into the screw, wait a few seconds for it to cool and you have a custom driver which will remove it (probably won't re-install it but why would you??)
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carniveron
They didn't bother to do a test ship? If they did they didn't decide to fix such an extreme problem? How is it hard to take some lines out of the marketing material and switch to a shippable TIM? This is just baffling how it happened and how it dragged on to review samples. Utter incompetence is the polite way to say it.
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They didn't bother to do a test ship? If they did they didn't decide to fix such an extreme problem? How is it hard to take some lines out of the marketing material and switch to a shippable TIM? This is just baffling how it happened and how it dragged on to review samples. Utter incompetence is the polite way to say it.
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Behnam
Unfortunate... got to cancel the preorder... i was sold on the 4 Video outputs and the additiona usb-c . Looked for an m-atx board with 4 outputs but can't find one.... i surely would prefer the 5700g .... but this whole unit is about the price of a 3060. 4 outputs - strange times...
suggestions anyone?
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Unfortunate... got to cancel the preorder... i was sold on the 4 Video outputs and the additiona usb-c . Looked for an m-atx board with 4 outputs but can't find one.... i surely would prefer the 5700g .... but this whole unit is about the price of a 3060. 4 outputs - strange times...
suggestions anyone?
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Chronicle
Agree with your conclusion. This box is pointless given you can build the approximate specs.
4700g/5700g + b550/b520 itx +32g ddr4 3600 +512g ssd+ inwin choppin (for the novelty) costs almost the same than this. You can save a few bucks if you can find 4700g and b520itx and have an exisiting ssd.
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Agree with your conclusion. This box is pointless given you can build the approximate specs.
4700g/5700g + b550/b520 itx +32g ddr4 3600 +512g ssd+ inwin choppin (for the novelty) costs almost the same than this. You can save a few bucks if you can find 4700g and b520itx and have an exisiting ssd.
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GrTitan
Steve, thanks for bringing up these faulty products.
Now, i will ask if you are willing to bring out all the dirty, anti-consumer and anti-competitive crap that Nvidia has done to us the consumers and other companies that did the mistake of working with them?
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Steve, thanks for bringing up these faulty products.
Now, i will ask if you are willing to bring out all the dirty, anti-consumer and anti-competitive crap that Nvidia has done to us the consumers and other companies that did the mistake of working with them?
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Penny
Having am external power brick is a perfectly valid design decision for various use cases, so I don't get the hate there. Other than that though, the company doesn't seem to have any clue what they're doing and the marketing is full of shit, so yeah.
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Having am external power brick is a perfectly valid design decision for various use cases, so I don't get the hate there. Other than that though, the company doesn't seem to have any clue what they're doing and the marketing is full of shit, so yeah.
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Price
I love that they used there wood agile when describing the case looks.
Ok, PC, I'm gonna set you on my desk. No jumping around now!
Disappears like a ninja completes a marathon gets new hacky sack kicking record
Dammit. Not again!
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I love that they used there wood agile when describing the case looks.
Ok, PC, I'm gonna set you on my desk. No jumping around now!
Disappears like a ninja completes a marathon gets new hacky sack kicking record
Dammit. Not again!
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